That video actually shows he could dribble with his off-hand fine. Why is it @Malik Hairston that Kareem called him the best PLAYER of all-time? He played with Magic in his prime.. And played with Oscar when he was old.
In all honesty, all bias aside, look at this ing dude dribbling a basketball..can barely use his off-hand, has to back up his opponent against pressure since he can't use his handles to get by him, the ball is way too high..Jesus Christ, this dude was the ing top PG of his era..he literally dribbles worse than Danny Green..
My 16-year old cousin actually asked me about Oscar Robertson once, and I literally had to password-block his computer from searching the keywords "Oscar" and "Robertson"..as a die-hard basketball fan, I'm embarrassed to discuss some of these dudes with the younger generation, I'm trying to prevent him from watching their tapes, tbh..I'll let him stick with the narrative and stats of guys like Oscar and Wilt, and the lore of Bill Russell's rings, rather than actually allowing him to watch them play, which will hurt his spirit..
A little comforting knowing the ones that disagree are the ones that think Kawhi is the second best player in the NBA today. I'll revisit this thread when there's a bit more intelligent discussion. Thanks Harlem for chiming in.
A little comforting knowing the ones that disagree are the ones that think Kawhi is the second best player in the NBA today. I'll revisit this thread when there's a bit more intelligent discussion. Thanks Harlem for chiming in.
You think LeBron = T-Mac and Newton > Montana, 'nuff said
In all honesty, all bias aside, look at this ing dude dribbling a basketball..can barely use his off-hand, has to back up his opponent against pressure since he can't use his handles to get by him, the ball is way too high..Jesus Christ, this dude was the ing top PG of his era..he literally dribbles worse than Danny Green..
My 16-year old cousin actually asked me about Oscar Robertson once, and I literally had to password-block his computer from searching the keywords "Oscar" and "Robertson"..as a die-hard basketball fan, I'm embarrassed to discuss some of these dudes with the younger generation, I'm trying to prevent him from watching their tapes, tbh..I'll let him stick with the narrative and stats of guys like Oscar and Wilt, and the lore of Bill Russell's rings, rather than actually allowing him to watch them play, which will hurt his spirit..
meh, DK couldn't make a triple, barkley was a fatass, dirk couldn't defend to save his life, nash either, choke paul can't play a postseason game decently, kirby can't shoot efficiently, shaq couldn't make ft, and so on.. really, manu ginobili is the only player in history that could do everything.
I agree. the history of basketball should start with LeBron James.
That is interesting about Harden, tbh.. He probably would have been what Chris Mullen was in that day. Not trying to dismiss his obvious skill, but 12 FTA per game? Not a chance.
meh, DK couldn't make a triple, barkley was a fatass, dirk couldn't defend to save his life, nash either, choke paul can't play a postseason game decently, kirby can't shoot efficiently, shaq couldn't make ft, and so on.. really, manu ginobili is the only player in history that could do everything.
Dribbling a basketball at the PG position is pretty essential, G..
Dribbling a basketball at the PG position is pretty essential, G..
getting the job done, that is essential. All the rest, well context wins.. I mean you can find holes in everybody's game really, Robertson led his teams better than anyone aside of Johnson, so what does it matter how was he doing that? You could say stockton was only capable of making one play, but if it worked all the time..
That video actually shows he could dribble with his off-hand fine. Why is it @Malik Hairston that Kareem called him the best PLAYER of all-time? He played with Magic in his prime.. And played with Oscar when he was old.
Oscar probably also never asked Kareem if he could buttsexed by him. I could see Lew holding a grudge against Earvin for that. Lew is an old-school , he ain't gonna prop a .
i'm far from a malik hater, but how is it that he hates on big o when he likes westchimp so much ? i mean they are literally the same player, except that robertson was even taller, far stronger and took ten times the beating..
i'm far from a malik hater, but how is it that he hates on big o when he likes westchimp so much ? i mean they are literally the same player, except that robertson was even taller, far stronger and took ten times the beating..
You did not just compare the most athletic PG in history to Big O
I hate Wilt's "status" as much as the next basketball fan, I mean the guy was mentally weak and couldn't even lead a stacked Kansas team to the National Championship, but he would have no problem filling up the stat sheet today. You got players with garbage fundamentals like Nerlens Noel, DeAndre Jordan, and the like routinely going off for big games. One of the reasons Duncan has been able to play at an all-star level for so long (despite being tremendously less athletic than 99% of NBA bigs) is because the C and PF positions are filled with re s who were weened on AAU ball. Wilt, straight out of the 60's, would easily be a 25-12 guy. Dwight Howard is basically a very poor man's Wilt and is regarded as the "best center in the game" by many.
Like I always say in these era vs. era threads. The game has evolved significantly and it's forced players to adapt. But players aren't intrinsically better today than they were 40 years ago (nor are they really any more athletic, despite KL2's constant appeal to "Eastern Bloc" training methods. Vertical jumps peaked in the 60's. Players aren't "bigger and stronger", as shown by the height/weight statistics over the years). They've simply evolved as the game has evolved, and the great players of the 60's (like Oscar) could learn the required skills to compete in today's game over an off-season or two. Kawhi's skillset was in' atrocious when he entered the league, and now 3 seasons in, he's steadily becoming an all-around player with a complete game.
Again, a great player could and would adapt. It's why they're great players.
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..can barely use his off-hand, has to back up his opponent against pressure since he can't use his handles to get by him, the ball is way too high..Jesus Christ, this dude was the ing top PG of his era
Oscar Robertson played like a modern women's basketball player.
