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    Big 3 era?

    Make no mistake, the Spurs will be (if they're not already) "Kawhi's team." But just because it's your team, doesn't necessarily mean you have to automatically be the 1st offensive option/leading scorer. Now, I'm not asking this question because I don't believe in Kawhi's offensive progression or ability (his huge hands and average athleticism will always be a concern for me, however), but he is so dominant defensively, I don't really want to see him drop off on that end as his offensive usage increases. Every great two-way wing player has suffered a marginal to sometimes huge drop off defensively when they're tasked with being "the man" on offense (Jordan [was often hidden on the opposing team's worst wing], T-Mac, Kobe, Lebron, etc) .

    Luckily, he actually is in the right system that allows him to maximize his all-around ability rather than just his offensive ability. Since the Spurs play team basketball, Kawhi likely won't be required to shoulder too much of an offensive load in isolation situations that will affect his defense. So in a sense, he can still be the first offensive option not just an overused one.

    Kawhi's defensive ability is a rarer commodity than wing players who can score 20-25 a night, which is why I want to preserve the former even if means Kawhi never achieves a pretty looking 25ppg.

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    Nope.

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    Relying on a single player to be "the man" is out of 90's basketball, though.

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    Tbh that means we'll have another top 10 player. So, fine by me.

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    Had a dream that the Duncan and Ginobili retired and we had Kawhi, TP, and the Gasol brothers. Pretty dope dream.

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    Relying on a single player to be "the man" is out of 90's basketball, though.

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    Tbh that means we'll have another top 10 player. So, fine by me.
    Or just a collection of complementary players, kinda like now. So Kawhi can still be the man from an individual numbers standpoint, but still second fiddle to "the system."

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    I do. I'm one of the biggest Kawhi fans on this site but I wouldn't mind him being the 2nd option if we get a solid scoring PG.

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    As long as the Spurs ring.

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    Or just a collection of complementary players, kinda like now. So Kawhi can still be the man from an individual numbers standpoint, but still second fiddle to "the system."
    But being 2nd in offense means there's one guy scoring 23-25 ppg right? That'd be really good since we wont have Tim and Manu anymore.

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    Relying on a single player to be "the man" is out of 90's basketball, though.

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    Never said anything about relying on a single player to be the man..

    not sure why you think me saying no means relying on a single player..

    That's way too much of a media and mainstream fan mentality.

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    Never said anything about relying on a single player to be the man..

    not sure why you think me saying no means relying on a single player..

    That's way too much of a media and mainstream fan mentality.

    Antiquated.
    Lol, this guy Malik doesn't even know what antiquated means.

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    Just keep it how it is now. He's clearly the best player on the team right now but he doesn't have to shoulder as much as other stars bc the system shoulders some of the offensive load. Current Timmy and Manu aren't irreplaceable. Current Enrique is a bum. I think Pop can keep this going if the right pieces are put around Kawhi tbh.

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    I'd rather have Kawhi average 18-20 ppg while maintaining efficiency and DPOTY-caliber defense as opposed to him scoring 25 ppg and sacrificing those things. Obviously it'd be great if he could do those things even while efficiently carrying the offense night in and night out, but that's an unrealistic expectation IMO. Very, very, very few players have been able to do that throughout history.

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    It seems like every team except the Spurs have a surplus of young PGs who can get buckets. I want to see the spurs sign an offensively talented pg who is also a willing passer. Defense should be set with Kawhi and Green and Splitter in the paint. Parker can become a 6th man or gtfo.

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    It seems like every team except the Spurs have a surplus of young PGs who can get buckets. I want to see the spurs sign an offensively talented pg who is also a willing passer. Defense should be set with Kawhi and Green and Splitter in the paint. Parker can become a 6th man or gtfo.
    Ghill blair kawhi. Future big 3...

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    the spurstalk a-bomb

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    No, mainly because thanks to Enrique's selfishness, Kawhi will be too busy being the LeBron of the Clippers.

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    Big 3 era?

    Make no mistake, the Spurs will be (if they're not already) "Kawhi's team." But just because it's your team, doesn't necessarily mean you have to automatically be the 1st offensive option/leading scorer. Now, I'm not asking this question because I don't believe in Kawhi's offensive progression or ability (his huge hands and average athleticism will always be a concern for me, however), but he is so dominant defensively, I don't really want to see him drop off on that end as his offensive usage increases. Every great two-way wing player has suffered a marginal to sometimes huge drop off defensively when they're tasked with being "the man" on offense (Jordan [was often hidden on the opposing team's worst wing], T-Mac, Kobe, Lebron, etc) .

    Luckily, he actually is in the right system that allows him to maximize his all-around ability rather than just his offensive ability. Since the Spurs play team basketball, Kawhi likely won't be required to shoulder too much of an offensive load in isolation situations that will affect his defense. So in a sense, he can still be the first offensive option not just an overused one.

    Kawhi's defensive ability is a rarer commodity than wing players who can score 20-25 a night, which is why I want to preserve the former even if means Kawhi never achieves a pretty looking 25ppg.
    Why the would you be worried about that? MJ never seemed to worry about his huge hands, tbh. Having huge hands is an advantage.
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    Why the would you be worry about that? MJ never seemed to worry about his huge hands, tbh. Having huge hands is an advantage.
    yeah I don't get that either. His handles are only going to get better, plus his passing has vastly improved.

    iirc the rapist always wished he had bigger hands, of course his obsession with MJ is disturbing.

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    No, mainly because thanks to Enrique's selfishness, Kawhi will be too busy being the LeBron of the Clippers.
    nah, they gotta open the checkbook once deandre gets handed his bull DPOY

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    Why the would you be worried about that? MJ never seemed to worry about his huge hands, tbh. Having huge hands is an advantage.
    Huge hands are always a liability when it comes to shooting. And Jordan's hands weren't anywhere near as large as Leonard's.

    Not saying Kawhi can't overcome that obstacle, but it's easier said than done.

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    Never said anything about relying on a single player to be the man..

    not sure why you think me saying no means relying on a single player..

    That's way too much of a media and mainstream fan mentality.

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    Because you implied that you wouldn't accept Kawhi having a 2nd fiddle role in the offense. Obviously he's the best single offensive option at the moment, but if we could develop or sign (which will never happen) a player who is just as offensively talented or more to shoulder a greater offensive load than Kawhi so that Kawhi could focus more energy on defense (where he just might be the most dominant player in the league), I'd take that over Kawhi trying to be Lebron James or Kevin Durant on offense, scoring 30 each night but slacking on defense, which would inevitably happen.

    But again, Kawhi is actually in the right system (a system that you claimed "held him back") for him to flourish in an all-around capacity.

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    Huge hands are always a liability when it comes to shooting. And Jordan's hands weren't anywhere near as large as Leonard's.

    Not saying Kawhi can't overcome that obstacle, but it's easier said than done.
    according to this, MJ had bigger hands than Kawhi

    http://www.foxsportsradio.com/articl...-nba-12467252/

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    Huge hands are always a liability when it comes to shooting. And Jordan's hands weren't anywhere near as large as Leonard's.

    Not saying Kawhi can't overcome that obstacle, but it's easier said than done.
    Imho, those huge hands help him with his elite midrange shooting and Kawhi's 3pt shooting will always be streaky but as he develops more and more into a 1st option instead of a "spot up guy" 3pt shooting will become less of a necessity so I don't really worry about his big hands getting in the way of his shooting.

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