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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12603685

    I sort of agree with him, but I still put Chuck Daly up there.

    Jackson was a great ego manager, but he divides locker rooms and really actually coached totally stacked teams to les. Tex Winter deserves a lot of the credit for the Xs and Os too.

    Red revolutionized the game by using a lot of black players back in the day. Him centering the entire defense around Russell, then using Russell's outlet passes to start fastbreak put a whole new dimension to the game. Sure, some of what he did is being done by high school coaches now, but he developed it and popularized it.

    Pat Riley was a great coach, fantastic manager of egos, and is a master architect. He had a tendency of wearing his players out over time though. He left the Lakers with reports that players were starting to tune him out, he never really got the Knicks over the hump despite all that talent, but he did popularized thug-ball with the Knicks despite him saying that he would like to see an up-tempo game when he was broadcasting with NBC right before he became the Knicks headcoach.

    Pop had great rapport with his players, he develops them, he takes inputs from many sources, he doesn't let his ego get in the way of winning, he builds the teams, and he has amazing longevity on one team. He took things from Sloan, Euroball, D'antoni, Brown, Nelson, and countless other coaches and made it his own. He transitioned the Spurs from the twin towers to the Duncans to a defensive juggernaut with balanced scoring to a free flowing offense over the span of less than 20 years, with Duncan as his core. The versatility and ability to adapt is amazing.

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    With the Current Spurs system on the both the Defensive and Offensive side of the ball, I would have to say I agree with him. It took years, but Pop has pretty developed the most near perfect system ever created in Basketball. Grant he took a page out of Daly and Brown's defense, PnR from Sloan, fast pace push the tempo from Nellie and Pringles. But the genius of Pop is he integrated all theses great coaching strategies into one system.

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    Chuck Daly
    teaching his players how to goon up
    2 1/2 page playbooks
    only getting the job done when Boston/LA were both finished
    80's 90's NBA

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    Chuck Daly
    teaching his players how to goon up
    2 1/2 page playbooks
    only getting the job done when Boston/LA were both finished
    80's 90's NBA
    Daly changed the way the game was played in the 90s and early 00s. It may not be aesthetically pleasing, but he employed some advanced (at that time) defensive concepts that trapped the ball, and centered an offense around a balanced attack spearheaded by two guards, which was highly unconventional at the time.

    The way he was able to get the trust of Jordan, who is notorious for being petty and hold grudges, during the Dream Team days after the fierce rivalries between the Pistons and the Bulls and that huge debacle with Jordan freezing out Isiah Thomas is just legendary. Not many coaches can pull that off.

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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    When Duncan was drafted, I had a small fear his ceiling would be Brad Daugherty. They had the same style body movements so I wondered how Duncan's game would translate to the nba without athleticism.

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    Sure... Jims cousin, Roofus would think that. Yeah...

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    I sort of agree with him, but I still put Chuck Daly up there.

    Jackson was a great ego manager, but he divides locker rooms and really actually coached totally stacked teams to les. Tex Winter deserves a lot of the credit for the Xs and Os too.

    Red revolutionized the game by using a lot of black players back in the day. Him centering the entire defense around Russell, then using Russell's outlet passes to start fastbreak put a whole new dimension to the game. Sure, some of what he did is being done by high school coaches now, but he developed it and popularized it.

    Pat Riley was a great coach, fantastic manager of egos, and is a master architect. He had a tendency of wearing his players out over time though. He left the Lakers with reports that players were starting to tune him out, he never really got the Knicks over the hump despite all that talent, but he did popularized thug-ball with the Knicks despite him saying that he would like to see an up-tempo game when he was broadcasting with NBC right before he became the Knicks headcoach.

    Pop had great rapport with his players, he develops them, he takes inputs from many sources, he doesn't let his ego get in the way of winning, he builds the teams, and he has amazing longevity on one team. He took things from Sloan, Euroball, D'antoni, Brown, Nelson, and countless other coaches and made it his own. He transitioned the Spurs from the twin towers to the Duncans to a defensive juggernaut with balanced scoring to a free flowing offense over the span of less than 20 years, with Duncan as his core. The versatility and ability to adapt is amazing.
    Agree with a lot of this and think Daly is excellent, but overrated by you a bit ...
    The PJ criticisims are valid overall Riles and Pop are my favorite as a fan ...but hard to argue with PJ's resume. Even if Tex deserves credit Pop also utilized his assistant coaches from Avery to Bud. Phil's guy just stayed with him longer ...

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    Me "sort of" agreeing with Daugherty on one subject doesn't mean I agree with him on all subject.

    For example, I don't think his wife is the hottest in the world nor his children the most beautiful.

    Try to get that out of your one-celled brain filled with Kobe fantasies.

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    Me "sort of" agreeing with Daugherty on one subject doesn't mean I agree with him on all subject.

    For example, I don't think his wife is the hottest in the world nor his children the most beautiful.

    Try to get that out of your one-celled brain filled with Kobe fantasies.
    i knew that would sting

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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    i knew that would sting
    Stung him right in his big fat pussy.

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    Begin discussion


    "You know who is nowhere near as good as Michael Jordan, you know, the best player to ever play basketball?"
    "No, who?"
    Kobe Bryant "
    "Oh, of course, that guy is maybe top 15"

    End discussion

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    who is brad daugherty

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    no mention of that kfc got?

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    i knew that would sting
    I knew you would think it stung me.

    Stung him right in his big fat pussy.
    You took biology? Or do you think everybody in this world are transves es like your favourite naruto

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    who is brad daugherty
    A former Cavalier who still hates MJ, so he says that Kirby is as good

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    A former Cavalier who still hates MJ, so he says that Kirby is as good
    oh yeah, i forgot TIMMYtoZO became PRICEtoDAUGHERTY

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    I knew you would think it stung me.



    You took biology? Or do you think everybody in this world are transves es like your favourite naruto

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    Sure... Jims cousin, Roofus would think that. Yeah...
    Just Another dude i suspected was gay tbh....

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    My only complaint is that way over-done Mr.Mean Interviews shtick. Stopped being funny a couple years ago and now it's just rude and obnoxious.

    I'm not sure how Team USA feels putting him at the helm with that sort of public relations. Phil Jackson's charisma is a part of his legacy.

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    Phil was the beneficiary of taking over stacked loaded teams with some of the greatest players the league has ever had.

    Now we will see how great he is with that Knick train wreck he is putting together.

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    Players have rarely left Pop during his tenure, staying in San Antonio-- not the most glamorous city in America-- and oftentimes playing for less money than they might've gotten somewhere else. That's the part of his legacy that I think is most often overlooked.

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