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    first of all, there was no fighting in said video. Second, running from a cop is not punishable by death. Keep being the dumbest guy on ST though, it's amusing.
    In the video you can clearly see the black man take the taser away and throw it on the ground. And if you're running from a cop it's because you just committed a crime or are wanted for some reason. Next time a cop pulls you over run away and take his taser from him. Let us know how it goes smartest guy on ST.

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    It's mind-boggling how many Americans defend the actions of criminals.

    Is it the Rap?

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    I can totally see where you are coming from but I can also see why the cop shot him. Maybe I'm wrong.
    you are.

    A cop can't shoot at someone 8 times because they run a way. He then tried to cover up what he did. Its a pretty cut and dry video. Cop murdered an unarmed man.

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    you are.

    A cop can't shoot at someone 8 times because they run a way. He then tried to cover up what he did. Its a pretty cut and dry video. Cop murdered an unarmed man.
    I prefer the Cop shoot the criminal than allow him to run thru my neighborhood

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    In the video you can clearly see the black man take the taser away and throw it on the ground. And if you're running from a cop it's because you just committed a crime or are wanted for some reason. Next time a cop pulls you over run away and take his taser from him. Let us know how it goes smartest guy on ST.
    lol clearly see

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    you are.

    A cop can't shoot at someone 8 times because they run a way. He then tried to cover up what he did. Its a pretty cut and dry video. Cop murdered an unarmed man.
    Who are we to make that call? We aren't the ones in a skirmish with a man who is clearly running because he is wanted for some unknown reason. The cop had no idea who this person was or why he was wanted. What if he was a killer?

    He planted it because he knew he was about to be in a world of trouble whether fair or not.

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    It's mind-boggling how many Americans defend the actions of criminals.

    Is it the Rap?
    That is you are doing.

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    Who are we to make that call? We aren't the ones in a skirmish with a man who is clearly running because he is wanted for some unknown reason. The cop had no idea who this person was or why he was wanted. What if he was a killer?

    He planted it because he knew he was about to be in a world of trouble whether fair or not.
    So kill someone because he could possibly be a killer, but you really have no idea?

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    Fight or flight. When you are confronted by someone who you perceive will do you harm, it is a natural instinct to get away from danger.
    I've run from cops before because I wanted to avoid trouble. You aren't thinking rationally about consequences. You are just trying to get away.
    No white person can understand the thought process of a black person when dealing with law enforcement. It's a different dynamic. Like it or not.

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    Running away and fighting a cop is a smart thing to do? Tell me more about how a 50 year old man doesn't know better.
    That's besides the point. Again, where do you see the perp fighting? Running away to avoid arrest does not equal a death sentence. The perp could've been the black Jeffrey Dahmer for all we know, still the cop has no authority to decide his fate. That is what the courts are for. From the video the cop's life was not endangered; therefore, he had no reason to use deadly force.

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    Fight or flight. When you are confronted by someone who you perceive will do you harm, it is a natural instinct to get away from danger.
    I've run from cops before because I wanted to avoid trouble. You aren't thinking rationally about consequences. You are just trying to get away.
    No white person can understand the thought process of a black person when dealing with law enforcement. It's a different dynamic. Like it or not.
    Eh, i think he didn't want to be arrested for failure to pay child support so he flew

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    So kill someone because he could possibly be a killer, but you really have no idea?
    It's a split second decision. If you're running from a cop it's for a reason. What if the man hijacked a car and killed the passengers? The cop had a million things going through his mind with adrenaline pumping. He made a choice and now he has to live with it.

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    It's a split second decision. If you're running from a cop it's for a reason. What if the man hijacked a car and killed the passengers? The cop had a million things going through his mind with adrenaline pumping. He made a choice and now he has to live with it.
    I think it's pretty telling that the attorney the cop originally hired just up and quit.

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    There is no reason to run from a cop unless you are wanted or just committed a crime. How anyone thinks it's perfectly reasonable to run froma your car when you are pulled over is beyond me. I've had a cop pull me over and tell me "show me your green card you ing " even though I'm pale white. I didn't run and I was 16 at the time.

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    Eh, i think he didn't want to be arrested for failure to pay child support so he flew
    That doesn't contradict my point. I'm also speaking in general terms and not necessarily about this specific case. We don't really know what triggered this man's decision to run.

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    Is there really no better way to defend yourself than with a gun?

    Hearing stories like this sucks:

    "...... Officers also learn to constantly scan their surroundings and process all that data as they approach. “They are taking in a lot of information in a short period of time and have to formulate a plan just like that,” said Kries, snapping his fingers

    Police say that ultimately, it is the suspect who dictates what happens, whether he or she follows the officer’s commands or actively resists. “If you comply with an officer’s orders, the chance of being involved in a shooting is minimal to none,” Kries said.

    However, said Kries, “If I tell you, ‘Don’t move’ and you move, I would have to react at the moment or possibly be killed.”

    If a noncompliant person makes a quick move, the officer does not know if he is going for a phone, a knife, a replica gun or a lethal firearm.

    "I don’t know a gun is fake until I hold it in my hand,” Kries said.

    That was the case last year in a shooting involving a Sonoma County sheriff’s deputy that left a 13-year-old boy dead. The teen was carrying an Airsoft BB gun that resembled an AK-47, authorities said. A deputy ordered him to drop the weapon, but the boy turned and pointed it toward the deputy, who responded by opening fire.

    The county’s district attorney ruled that while the shooting was a tragedy, the use of lethal force was a reasonable response under the cir stances, and no charges would be brought against the deputy......."

    http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/au...demy-ferguson/
    Every case is different. As I have stated before, my father was a law enforcement officer for many years and I tend to give police officers the benefit of the doubt. In this instance, the officer in question was in the wrong. There is video evidence that shows his life was not in any immediate danger. There was no need to shoot an unarmed man who was running away from you in the back multiple times.

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    That's besides the point. Again, where do you see the perp fighting? Running away to avoid arrest does not equal a death sentence. The perp could've been the black Jeffrey Dahmer for all we know, still the cop has no authority to decide his fate. That is what the courts are for. From the video the cop's life was not endangered; therefore, he had no reason to use deadly force.
    So if the man had been a murderer and killed again then what? Who would society blame? The cop who could of done something to stop him I assume. It's a lose lose for the cop. Either way the cop is ed because of a 50 year old man who couldn't keep his together. If you're man enough to have 4 kids then you should be man enough to man up and serve time when you can't provide for them.

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    That doesn't contradict my point. I'm also speaking in general terms and not necessarily about this specific case. We don't really know what triggered this man's decision to run.
    Eh, yeah i guess we don't really know, but based on what I've read, I'm pretty sure he ran to avoid jail as opposed to immediate physical harm.

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    So if the man had been a murderer and killed again then what? Who would society blame? The cop who could of done something to stop him I assume. It's a lose lose for the cop. Either way the cop is ed because of a 50 year old man who couldn't keep his together. If you're man enough to have 4 kids then you should be man enough to man up and serve time when you can't provide for them.
    Well with that logic every cop with a gun should have the OK to use deadly force on anybody they think might be a murderer, rapist, or child molester. Stop with the assumptions. Also, why is not shooting an unarmed man in the back multiple times mean he is getting away? He might be resisting arrest by fleeing but that does not mean he can't be arrested at any other point.

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    rob's position on this is hilarious considering his posts in the mike brown thread

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    Well with that logic every cop with a gun should have the OK to use deadly force on anybody they think might be a murderer, rapist, or child molester. Stop with the assumptions. Also, why is not shooting an unarmed man in the back multiple times mean he is getting away? He might be resisting arrest by fleeing but that does not mean he can't be arrested at any other point.
    Never said that. But if you're running from a cop it's for a reason. The cop has no idea what that reason is. The man was caught and ran away again. The cop is probably thinking that this man is wanted for a serious crime. Maybe he felt it others were in danger. I hate guns with a passion and in a perfect world no one would be able to take a life so easily but it's not a perfect world and that's just the way it is.

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    rob's position on this is hilarious considering his posts in the mike brown thread
    That was a different situation. You're like an annoying little dog that won't stop barking. You must be a in real life.

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    lol ironic considering you have 25k posts in about a year

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    lol ironic considering you have 25k posts in about a year
    It's actually 3. Nice try though.

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