In order for Spurs to get 2 seed, MEM needs to lose two more times and SA win out

[mclinejr]

As long as the Spurs enter the playoffs healthy, I don't care what place they finish in.

[DAF86]

LOL we won't win out.

Pop MIGHT play 1 more serious regular season game this Friday and then call it a season.

Manu has ackowledged that they're pushing hard for a top 3 seed.

[hater]

Manu has ackowledged that they're pushing hard for a top 3 seed.

I'm not sure Manu has much say on what the Spurs push for. It's Pops team.

[SpursFan86]

Spurs also win a three-way tie-breaker against Memphis and Houston (provided the Spurs win tomorrow) because they'd have a combined 5-3 H2H record against the other two teams, as opposed to Houston's 3-5 and Memphis' 4-4.

So if the Spurs win out, and Memphis only loses 1 game, we'd still be the 2nd seed?

[hater]

So if the Spurs win out, and Memphis only loses 1 game, we'd still be the 2nd seed?

assuming ALL teams "take care of business in the other games" we have the following:

2 MEM 56-25
3 HOU 56-25
5 LAC 55-26
6 SAS 55-26


now the scenarios:
Most likely: HOU and LAC win
2 HOU 57-25
3 LAC 56-26
5 MEM 56-26
6 SAS 55-27

SAS @ LAC playoffs


2nd most likely: SAS and LAC win
2 MEM 56-26
3 LAC 56-26
5 SAS 56-26
6 HOU 56-26

POR @ SAS playoffs


3rd most likely: HOU and MEM win
2 MEM 57-25
3 HOU 57-25
5 LAC 55-27
6 SAS 55-27

SAS @ HOU playoffs


4th most likely: SAS and MEM win
2 MEM 57-25
3 SAS 56-26
5 HOU 56-26
6 LAC 55-27

HOU @ SAS playoffs



so are HOU vs SAS series very likely? yes and no.


I'm gonna go ahead and say Spurs are probably playing the Clippers in round 1.

[Chinook]

So if the Spurs win out, and Memphis only loses 1 game, we'd still be the 2nd seed?

Not necessarily. Houston would have to do its part to make it a three-way tie.

[hater]

So if the Spurs win out, and Memphis only loses 1 game, we'd still be the 2nd seed?

assuming ALL teams "take care of business in the other games" we have the following:

2 MEM 56-25
3 HOU 56-25
5 LAC 55-26
6 SAS 55-26


now the scenarios:
Most likely: HOU and LAC win
2 HOU 57-25
3 LAC 56-26
5 MEM 56-26
6 SAS 55-27

SAS @ LAC playoffs


2nd most likely: SAS and LAC win
2 MEM 56-26
3 LAC 56-26
5 SAS 56-26
6 HOU 56-26

POR @ SAS playoffs


3rd most likely: HOU and MEM win
2 MEM 57-25
3 HOU 57-25
5 LAC 55-27
6 SAS 55-27

SAS @ HOU playoffs


4th most likely: SAS and MEM win
2 MEM 57-25
3 SAS 56-26
5 HOU 56-26
6 LAC 55-27

HOU @ SAS playoffs



so are HOU vs SAS series very likely? yes and no.


I'm gonna go ahead and say Spurs are probably playing the Clippers in round 1.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Hater, you have your scenario wrong, Spurs come out on top in the event of a 4 way tie

[Chinook]

And hater, your fourth scenario is SAS@LAC, not HOU

[hater]

Hater, you have your scenario wrong, Spurs come out on top in the event of a 4 way tie

I believe Memphis does. Memphis takes the division because they own tiebreaker vs Spurs. right?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I believe Memphis does. Memphis takes the division because they own tiebreaker vs Spurs. right?

No, we take the tiebreaker on common head 2 head among Memphis/Houston/Spurs, and then we get the tiebreak vs the Clips for winning the division.

[Chinook]

Hater, you have your scenario wrong, Spurs come out on top in the event of a 4 way tie

That too.

[hater]

No, we take the tiebreaker on common head 2 head among Memphis/Houston/Spurs, and then we get the tiebreak vs the Clips for winning the division.

howso? MEM vs SAS are 2-2 in the season.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

howso? MEM vs SAS are 2-2 in the season.

Yeah but we are 3-1 on Houston (in this scenario) and Houston is 2-2 with Memphis. Therefore we have the best common record.

[hater]

Yeah but we are 3-1 on Houston (in this scenario) and Houston is 2-2 with Memphis. Therefore we have the best common record.

what? not sure if agree:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/3/1...ern-conference

If teams finish tied in the standings, this is how berths and seeds will be determined.

MEMPHIS over Houston: The teams split the season series. But the Rockets can no longer finish with a better division or conference record than the Grizzlies, and Memphis' record against West playoff teams (regardless of whether OKC or New Orleans make it) is guaranteed to be better.

MEMPHIS over San Antonio: The teams split the season series. San Antonio cannot finish with a better divisional record and the Grizzlies have clinched a better record against the West.

[DAF86]

I'm not sure Manu has much say on what the Spurs push for. It's Pops team.

So do you think Manu said that just becuase?

[Budkin]

I doubt Memphis loses twice. Just let us be healthy.

[hater]

So do you think Manu said that just becuase?

no. he probably meant it, the players probably talk amonst them.

Does not mean Pop took part in the conversations.

[Cloud786]

Spurs 4 The Win is correct.

b. More Than Two Teams Tied
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

In the event that Houston, SA, and Memphis are tied at the end at 56-26, spurs would win the division and be 2nd seed. Doesn't matter what the Clippers do.

[Cloud786]

If it's only Spurs and Memphis tied at the end, THEN Memphis would win the tiebreaker against us. So a 3-way tie between SA/Houston/Memphis favors us heavily if we win out.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

what? not sure if agree:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/3/1...ern-conference

If teams finish tied in the standings, this is how berths and seeds will be determined.

MEMPHIS over Houston: The teams split the season series. But the Rockets can no longer finish with a better division or conference record than the Grizzlies, and Memphis' record against West playoff teams (regardless of whether OKC or New Orleans make it) is guaranteed to be better.

MEMPHIS over San Antonio: The teams split the season series. San Antonio cannot finish with a better divisional record and the Grizzlies have clinched a better record against the West.

DUDE, ITS A 3 WAY TIE WITH HOUSTON. Come on. We would be 5-3 against Houston/Memphis, Memphis 4-4 against Houston/Spurs, and Houston 3-5 against Spurs/Memphis

[Chinook]

I believe Memphis does. Memphis takes the division because they own tiebreaker vs Spurs. right?

No. They own a one-on-one tie-break, but not a three-way with Houston (if the Spurs win tomorrow)

[hater]

cool thanks ^

didn't know that. weird

[DAF86]

no. he probably meant it, the players probably talk amonst them.

Does not mean Pop took part in the conversations.

I think it was something talked about among everybody including Pop. I think Playing all the guys on a back to back against OKC and Houston (including Tony that had to leave the game the night before) says a lot about Pop intentions regarding seedings, tbh.

[Cloud786]

Likely Spurs 2nd seed scenarios:
Spurs win out
Houston loses to us, then wins out
Memphis loses one game

-- All three teams tied at 56-26, gives us the division by virtue of better overall record between the tied teams.

OR

Spurs win out
Houston loses to us, then does whatever
Memphis loses two games

-- Gives Spurs better record than Memphis and tiebreaker over Houston


Doesn't matter what the Clippers do as we would win the division and be ranked ahead of them. It's crazy but there's a high chance that all 4 teams could end up tied.