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someone explain to me, why are we seeded fifth after tonight's game?
I like the 2/3/6/7 side because it's less travel if we catch DAL in the 1st RD and MEM in the 2nd RD. That is a huge benefit, DAL is like a 30 min flight, and MEM is just a little further northeast. The trip all the way to POR back and forth for a series negates any advantage of playing the weakened opponent once you get out there imo.
GSW is a young team and might have fool's confidence rolling in the 2nd RD. I'm wondering if the limelight of the WCF might be a better venue to face them. They have a veteran coach but WCF is a big stage and the pressure would be enormous on a young team, especially trying to hold up in the shadow of a team that belongs at that level and has been the recent standard. I prefer to loom on GSW until the last possible moment instead of charging so quickly into a series early on hoping to dispatch them with ease catching them off guard or before they might gain momentum. They have momentum, they've been rolling all season.
someone explain to me, why are we seeded fifth after tonight's game?
yeah does make sense.
We have the three way tiebreaker with houston and Memphis...We should own the division
I think it's because Houston is at 53 wins, not 54 like Memphis and San Antonio. So technically it's a two-team tie right now, which Memphis owns the tie-breaker because of a better conference record?
That's exactly it. I think.
W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK L10 1zGolden State Warriors 64 15 .810 - 36-2 28-13 13-3 39-10 109.6 99.4 +10.2 W1 8-2 2xMemphis Grizzlies 54 26 .675 10.5 30-10 24-16 9-7 35-16 98.2 95.0 +3.2 L1 5-5 3xLos Angeles Clippers 54 26 .675 10.5 29-11 25-15 11-4 35-15 106.6 100.1 +6.5 W5 9-1 4yPortland Trail Blazers 51 29 .637 13.5 32-9 19-20 11-4 31-19 103.0 98.3 +4.7 L2 6-4 5xSan Antonio Spurs 54 26 .675 10.5 32-8 22-18 8-7 31-19 103.1 96.9 +6.2 W10 10-0 6xHouston Rockets 53 26 .671 11 28-11 25-15 7-8 31-19 103.6 100.6 +3.0 L2 7-3 7xDallas Mavericks 48 31 .608 16 26-14 22-17 7-9 27-22 105.1 102.2 +2.8 W2 4-6 8New Orleans Pelicans 43 36 .544 21 27-13 16-23 7-7 27-22 99.1 98.4 +0.7 W1 6-4 Oklahoma City Thunder 43 36 .544 21 28-12 15-24 8-6 23-27 103.6 101.6 +2.0 W1 4-6
i don't understand the division thing much
but if we beat no then we're tied with memphis in the division right?
Three way is with memphis and LAC.
I think we lose the 2nd tie breaker; win % among division with LAC and Mem.
1st tie breaker is win % among the teams involved and everyone in this group is tied. We need houston involved in the tie to win the 1st tie breaker.
That's pretty beta of you to have no say who enters your home tbh
what happens if there's a three-team tie with the clips, rox, and spurs, but memphis loses to GS?
do we need a 4-team tie to get 2nd?
this is killing me
How are the Grizz ahead? Don't the Spurs own the tiebreaker?
the only thing you s need to pay attention to the rest of the week is Tiago's calf tbh. The Spurs are runnin' roughshod through the playoffs if he's healthy and Patty is back regardless where they end up.
Dude, read my post above.
As for the question about what if HOU is involved with us in a 3 way tie with LAC: we win due to 1st tie breaker, record within the group.
Per NBA.com:
b. More Than Two Teams Tied
- (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
Not sure this applies, since SAS and MEM are tied, record-wise, for division lead. If it does apply, MEM would be the division leader by virtue of better conference record.
- (2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
SAS - MEM: 2-2
SAS - LAC: 2-2
LAC - MEM: 2-2
Head to head all tied.
- (3) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in the same division).
Not all tied teams are in the same division, so it does not apply.
(4) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
MEM: 35-16
LAC: 35-15
SAS: 31-19
Memphis needs to lose to GSW, then we could find ourselves in a 3 way tie with the Clippers and Houston, which is where I think we would prevail and get the #2 seed, since we own the head 2 head with Houston, so we would be the division leader.
So I guess this really hinges on whether the dubs rest against MEM.
Although based on what I saw tonight, they could rest a few bodies and still beat the grizz.
They'll likely have Conley and Gasol back by Monday though. So, doubtful.
The other possibility is a 3 way tie between SAS-MEM-HOU, in that case:
Head to head record:
SAS-MEM: 2-2
SAS-HOU: 3-1
HOU-MEM: 2-2
Thus, SAS: 5-3, MEM: 4-4, HOU: 3-5 and the Spurs would then be leading the division and getting the #2 seed.
San Antonio needs to win out. Any scenario where we win out, we're likely to get the #2 seed by virtue of division lead.
Too much thinking make head hurt
So in a way, if the Rockets and Grizzlies win out, it would be advantageous for the Spurs but if the Rockets lost a game and the Grizzlies win out, then the Spurs are ed out of that 2nd seed? Hmm...
Yes, Spurs need to win out and be on a 3 team tie... or Memphis needs to lose to GSW tomorrow (and Spurs still win out)
The odds are the Spurs wrap up the 2 seed if the Grizz lose..Warriors played all their guys vs. the ty Wolves tonight, there's no way they don't play them vs. the Grizzlies when they could more than likely keep the Spurs out of their bracket by beating the Grizz, tbh..
They aren't stupid
The only way we get the 2 seed is if we end up in a 3 way tie with the rockets and grizz OR if the grizz lose 1 more game and we win out. That's right I think.
But who's on first?
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