Number 2 seed

[apalisoc_9]

2 seed doesn't mean tbh other than getting Dallas in the first round. The Clippers would still have homecourt vs the Spurs in any matchup assuming both teams win out, due to having the second tiebreaker (better conference record).

no...

[SpursFan86]

2 seed doesn't mean tbh other than getting Dallas in the first round. The Clippers would still have homecourt vs the Spurs in any matchup assuming both teams win out, due to having the second tiebreaker (better conference record).

No...us getting 2nd seed means we win the division, and that would give us the tiebreaker over the Clippers.

Getting 2nd seed would guarantee us HCA against every team besides Golden State and Atlanta.

[baseline bum]

no...

Spurs are 2-2 against the Clippers, so the second tiebreaker is conference record, where the Spurs would be 33-19 and the Clippers 37-15 and so homecourt goes to LA. Division winners only matter for seeding, not homecourt.

[apalisoc_9]

Spurs are 2-2 against the Clippers, so the second tiebreaker is conference record, where the Spurs would be 33-19 and the Clippers 37-15 and so homecourt goes to LA. Division winners only matter for seeding, not homecourt.

No.

Not in this case.

[SpursFan86]

Spurs are 2-2 against the Clippers, so the second tiebreaker is conference record, where the Spurs would be 33-19 and the Clippers 37-15 and so homecourt goes to LA. Division winners only matter for seeding, not homecourt.

Source? I've never seen this mentioned anywhere before. Everything I've read points to division winner being the first tiebreaker regardless of scenario. If two teams are tied, and one of those teams has won their division, the team that won the division will get the tiebreaker.

[baseline bum]

No...us getting 2nd seed means we win the division, and that would give us the tiebreaker over the Clippers.

Getting 2nd seed would guarantee us HCA against every team besides Golden State and Atlanta.

The division only matters for seeding.

http://www.nba.com/news/features/playoff.tiebreakers/

d. Home Court Advantage:
For purposes of home court advantage, ties will be broken pursuant to the procedures used for breaking two-team ties for playoff position.

http://www.nba.com/news/features/playoff.tiebreakers/

a. Two Teams Tied
(1) Better winning percentage in games against each other
(2) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if tied teams are in same division).
(3) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
(4) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
(6) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents ("point differential").

[baseline bum]

Source? I've never seen this mentioned anywhere before. Everything I've read points to division winner being the first tiebreaker regardless of scenario. If two teams are tied, and one of those teams has won their division, the team that won the division will get the tiebreaker.

If division winner was a tiebreaker for anything but seeding, the Blazers would have homecourt in the first round.

[will_spurs]

Spurs are 2-2 against the Clippers, so the second tiebreaker is conference record, where the Spurs would be 33-19 and the Clippers 37-15 and so homecourt goes to LA. Division winners only matter for seeding, not homecourt.

d. Home Court Advantage

• For purposes of home court advantage, ties will be broken pursuant to the procedures used for breaking two-team ties for playoff position.

a. Two Teams Tied

• (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.

The Spurs would have HCA because they'd be division champ and the Clippers wouldn't.

[baseline bum]

No.

Not in this case.

That doesn't make any sense that division winner isn't a tiebreaker for homecourt in the first round but would be in the second.

[Cloud786]

The division only matters for seeding.

No Spurs would have homecourt because they win the division and the records are identical. Portland does not have homecourt because they have a WORSE record than the 5th seed. If Portland and the 5th seed had the same record, Portland would get homecourt (even if the 5th seed team beat them 4-0 in the regular season).

[RD2191]

Tf is baseline bum on.

[SpursFan86]

If division winner was a tiebreaker for anything but seeding, the Blazers would have homecourt in the first round.

?

They're not tied with anyone. They just get a top 4 seed because division winners are guaranteed such. If they were tied with the 5th place team, though, they would win the tiebreaker (and get HCA) since they won the division.

That link mentions nothing about division winners automatically winning tiebreakers...so I'm not sure what to say. It says the same procedures are used as the ones that determine playoff seeding, though, so that makes me inclined to say it works the same way. If a division winner is tied with a non-division winner, the division winner will always win the tiebreaker.

[apalisoc_9]

No Spurs would have homecourt because they win the division and the records are identical. Portland does not have homecourt because they have a WORSE record than the 5th seed. If Portland and the 5th seed had the same record, Portland would get homecourt (even if the 5th seed team beat them 4-0 in the regular season).

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[Winnipeg_Spur]

If division winner was a tiebreaker for anything but seeding, the Blazers would have homecourt in the first round.

Tiebreakers are only relevant when the two teams are tied. The Blazers will have a worse record than their first round opponent, so no need to resort to tiebreakers to decide HCA.

[baseline bum]

d. Home Court Advantage

• For purposes of home court advantage, ties will be broken pursuant to the procedures used for breaking two-team ties for playoff position.

a. Two Teams Tied

• (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.

The Spurs would have HCA because they'd be division champ and the Clippers wouldn't.

What's your source? Maybe it changed since the last time NBA.com updated their site?

[Robz4000]

2 seed doesn't mean tbh other than getting Dallas in the first round. The Clippers would still have homecourt vs the Spurs in any matchup assuming both teams win out, due to having the second tiebreaker (better conference record).

Division winner gets HCA if both teams are tied. It acts as the first tiebreaker in this scenario.

[will_spurs]

That doesn't make any sense that division winner isn't a tiebreaker for homecourt in the first round but would be in the second.

According to Wikipedia, you'd be right if it was the NBA finals, and not the 2nd round:

Home court advantage in any round does not necessarily belong to the higher-seeded team, but instead to the team with the better regular season record. If two teams with the same record meet in a round, standard tiebreaker rules are used. The rule for determining home court advantage in the NBA Finals is winning percentage, then head to head record, followed by record vs. opposite conference.

However I have a feeling you're right, and that sucks...

[Mel_13]

What's your source? Maybe it changed since the last time NBA.com updated their site?

He's right bb, his source is nba.com, and it's been that way for years.

[apalisoc_9]

What's your source? Maybe it changed since the last time NBA.com updated their site?

ha?

it's been this way for a quite some time now...

The first basis of a tiebreaker is division winner then head to head..

It's that simple.

[will_spurs]

What's your source? Maybe it changed since the last time NBA.com updated their site?

http://stats.nba.com/playoffpicture

Current playoffs procedure.

But it doesn't explain why Portland wouldn't have HCA over the 5th seed... so I feel it's incomplete and you may be right that the "division winner" part is dropped from evaluating a tiebreaker in the case of HCA

[Cloud786]

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_re...=iref:nba:gnav

d. Home Court Advantage:For purposes of home court advantage, ties will be broken pursuant to the procedures used for breaking two-team ties for playoff position.

a. Two Teams Tied
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
(2) Better winning percentage in games against each other.
(3) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if tied teams are in same division).
(4) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.

By rule, division winner wins the tie for both seeding and for homecourt.

[Cloud786]

http://stats.nba.com/playoffpicture

Current playoffs procedure.

But it doesn't explain why Portland wouldn't have HCA over the 5th seed... so I feel it's incomplete and you may be right that the "division winner" part is dropped from evaluating a tiebreaker in the case of HCA

Portland doesn't have homecourt because their record is worse. Rule only applies when records are tied.

[SpursFan86]

http://stats.nba.com/playoffpicture

Current playoffs procedure.

But it doesn't explain why Portland wouldn't have HCA over the 5th seed... so I feel it's incomplete and you may be right that the "division winner" part is dropped from evaluating a tiebreaker in the case of HCA

Again, Portland isn't tied with anyone. They have an outright worse record than whoever will end up getting the 5th seed. Can't have a tiebreaker if there's no tie in the first place.

[will_spurs]

Portland doesn't have homecourt because their record is worse. Rule only applies when records are tied.

It's true, but I'm not sure Portland would have HCA in case of a tie simply by virtue of being a division winner. Maybe.

[baseline bum]

http://stats.nba.com/playoffpicture

Current playoffs procedure.

But it doesn't explain why Portland wouldn't have HCA over the 5th seed... so I feel it's incomplete and you may be right that the "division winner" part is dropped from evaluating a tiebreaker in the case of HCA

Nah, you're right, the Spurs would have homecourt vs the Clippers if Spurs are #2 and LA #3. NBA.com still has their old tiebreaker rules posted.