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    So because Russia sells arms to Iran, the POTUS is failure?

    Thanks for doing dumbed down thinking for me.
    Yes...Yes it is! This is just another show of incompetence. Not the end all.
    like I said Obama on foreign policy/affairs/negotiations/etc is his fault. Good or bad. Too bad for us, it's bad. OUr enemies walk all over us. We've lost trust of allies. Our sphere of influence is a joke. And yeah. That would be all of Obama's actions. Notice none of that has to do with war, doves.

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    Seriously? The "It's not Obama's fault" is still being used? Well who's fault is it?
    Hmmm. Is Obama selling Russian missiles to Iran?

    Did I miss something?

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    What would a Republican president do to stop this sale?

    lol Obama's fault!

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    Yes...Yes it is! This is just another show of incompetence. Not the end all.
    like I said Obama on foreign policy/affairs/negotiations/etc is his fault. Good or bad. Too bad for us, it's bad. OUr enemies walk all over us. We've lost trust of allies. Our sphere of influence is a joke. And yeah. That would be all of Obama's actions. Notice none of that has to do with war, doves.
    Riddle me this then, if that is your assertion.

    How exactly would a competent president have prevented this?

    In your answer, be sure to detail what steps would make an openly hostile Russian government not go forward.

    I have a sealed envelope with my prediction about your reply.

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    Riddle me this then, if that is your assertion.

    How exactly would a competent president have prevented this?

    In your answer, be sure to detail what steps would make an openly hostile Russian government not go forward.

    I have a sealed envelope with my prediction about your reply.
    That's cute that out of all ive said, you have no defense of obama (except it's not his fault of course). Instead you want to play make believe.
    So Obama hasn't failed in every foreign policy decision?

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    That's cute that out of all ive said, you have no defense of obama (except it's not his fault of course). Instead you want to play make believe.
    So Obama hasn't failed in every foreign policy decision?
    So what would have succeeded in this case?

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    That's cute that out of all ive said, you have no defense of obama (except it's not his fault of course). Instead you want to play make believe.
    So Obama hasn't failed in every foreign policy decision?
    You ducked any kind of meaningful answer, as predicted.

    The answer to your question is no, and even you don't think he has "failed in every policy decision" because I could go through a list of them, and eventually find at least one you probably agree with.

    My question though remains. You say he has failed in this regard. I am hard pressed to see what could have happened otherwise to prevent it.

    I will, therefore, ask again, because you have not come even close to meeting anything approaching the burden of proof you have set for yourself by making the claim.

    I would be happy to agree with you, if you can outline some reasonable alternative steps. I am no huge fan of Obama, but neither am I going to hysterically wave my hands about him bringing on the end of the world, as so many seem disposed to do.

    Either you have the sense personal responsibility to answer a fair question about your claim honestly, or you don't. I leave it, again, to you.

    Name some alternative policies that would have prevented the action in the OP.

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    You ducked any kind of meaningful answer, as predicted.

    The answer to your question is no, and even you don't think he has "failed in every policy decision" because I could go through a list of them, and eventually find at least one you probably agree with.

    My question though remains. You say he has failed in this regard. I am hard pressed to see what could have happened otherwise to prevent it.

    I will, therefore, ask again, because you have not come even close to meeting anything approaching the burden of proof you have set for yourself by making the claim.

    I would be happy to agree with you, if you can outline some reasonable alternative steps. I am no huge fan of Obama, but neither am I going to hysterically wave my hands about him bringing on the end of the world, as so many seem disposed to do.

    Either you have the sense personal responsibility to answer a fair question about your claim honestly, or you don't. I leave it, again, to you.

    Name some alternative policies that would have prevented the action in the OP.
    Why should I play make believe? How would that make Obama's foreign policy any better.
    It's not just this one instance on why I've said Obama has failed. It's all of them. Not one decision, I can think of, where Obama made a bad situation better-in his foreign policy. Can you name one?

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    It's pretty safe to say that if your trolling in the same fashion as CD, you're failing.

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    It's pretty safe to say that if your trolling in the same fashion as CD, you're failing.
    On the contrary, you're doing everything in your power to avoid a simple question.

    If what Obama did was so obviously wrong in this case, what would you have done, Mr. President?

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    what could Obama done differently in Iraq? Afghanistan? Africa? Ukraine? Crimea?

    NOTHING supposedly bad that Obama has done or not done comes within a 1000 miles of what Repugs ed up 2001-2008, or does your history start in Jan 2009?

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    Obama bad.... grrrrrghghghg... Russia... missles... Iran... mmmhhmmhmh
    [Um.... okaaaay. Could you, please, say what could have happened differently that Obama could have done to prevent Russian arms sales to Iran? I might actually agree with it]

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    It's pretty safe to say that if your trolling in the same fashion as CD, you're failing.
    All I have done is ask you to take some personal responsibility.

    Too much to ask, it seems.

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    China + Russia + Iran

    >

    USA + UK + Israel

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    China + Russia + Iran

    >

    USA + UK + Israel
    Too much manpower and electronic warfare capabilities. Remember when Iran took down that drone?

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    This now gives us an excuse to put missiles in Poland.

    Putin is like a tumor producing agent for US metastasis.
    The man is so small, and so desperate. Oh, good luck on than biker ride into Poland, hope you join the crew.
    God what an idiot...

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    This now gives us an excuse to put missiles in Poland.
    Lmao no it doesn't. Call me when Putin puts nukes in Mexico or Cuba maybe we can talk.

    its a DEFENSIVE anti air defense system that would only be used to protect against illegal bombings. It's not your right to bomb whoever you like .
    Last edited by m>s; 04-17-2015 at 12:05 AM.

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    This now gives us an excuse to put missiles in Poland.

    Putin is like a tumor producing agent for US metastasis.
    The man is so small, and so desperate. Oh, good luck on than biker ride into Poland, hope you join the crew.
    God what an idiot...
    We have missiles in Germany which can cover Poland. We need to protect the smaller, ex Soviet counties closer

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    We have missiles in Germany which can cover Poland. We need to protect the smaller, ex Soviet counties closer
    Once a taboo, Nato membership now a hot topic in Finland


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/613f0600-e...#axzz3XZaA1d6h

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    Lmao no it doesn't. Call me when Putin puts nukes in Mexico or Cuba maybe we can talk.

    its a DEFENSIVE anti air defense system that would only be used to protect against illegal bombings. It's not your right to bomb whoever you like .
    Oh yes it does. We can hit Iranian missiles quicker headed for israel. We have already used this excuse. And the Poles want them. And I'm not Jewish Ya GD Nazi. I just despise Nazis.

    The little man is making moves that are setting up the US for further intervention to bolster NATO. Only problem is the Russians can't match the money we alot for rearming. You think they would learn.

    And Cuba and Mexico, they don't despise us like the Poles do Russia. Good luck with that fantasy. Like it or not, who is the big dog? Say it.

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    We have missiles in Germany which can cover Poland. We need to protect the smaller, ex Soviet counties closer
    So what.
    Poland wants em, and we have already threatened it using Iran as an excuse.

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    We have missiles in Germany which can cover Poland. We need to protect the smaller, ex Soviet counties closer
    Well that is done on a case by case basis.
    The Ukraine is not small but a total mess. This place is as corrupt as Russia. We need to look closely at each case. Some of theses places have followed the old Russian way of total government corruption, shutdown of opposition parties, and no press, no human rights groups allowed.

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    Once a taboo, Nato membership now a hot topic in Finland


    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/613f0600-e...#axzz3XZaA1d6h
    Same for Sweden. A poll in Sweden has the majority wanting to join for the FIRST time.
    The little man in Russia wants division, he's got division.

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    Where was all the outcry when the US built "Iron Dome" for billions on the taxpayer dime?

    Iran has every right to protect itself. They haven't invaded or threatened or struck any country in that region. The Persians only want peace, while the Sunni Arabs only want violence.

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    Well that is done on a case by case basis.
    The Ukraine is not small but a total mess. This place is as corrupt as Russia. We need to look closely at each case. Some of theses places have followed the old Russian way of total government corruption, shutdown of opposition parties, and no press, no human rights groups allowed.
    a corrupt govt able to elect their own is better than another land grab from russia, that will never be able to independent again.

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