Russian Arms Sales to Iran Degrade U.S. Ability to Strike Nuke Sites

[pgardn]

a corrupt govt able to elect their own is better than another land grab from russia, that will never be able to independent again.

Uhhh...

I don't know. Corrupt countries can be an economic down drag to grab.

[pgardn]

Where was all the outcry when the US built "Iron Dome" for billions on the taxpayer dime?

Iran has every right to protect itself. They haven't invaded or threatened or struck any country in that region. The Persians only want peace, while the Sunni Arabs only want violence.

Are you Fckn kidding? Look what they have down to Lebanon and now Syria?
Jesus. They want control over the ME, that's why the Saudis, Egyptians etc... are building an army.
WTF are you reading?

We won't go into their extensive backing of Hezbollah... honestly where do people get this crap?

[spursncowboys]

Uhhh...

I don't know. Corrupt countries can be an economic down drag to grab.

Or foreign policy should always be to defend democracie. Are you saying then we should also give up on mexico? Let Russia just take back all their ex Soviet counties and not do anything?

[Infinite_limit]

Or foreign policy should always be to defend democracie. Are you saying then we should also give up on mexico? Let Russia just take back all their ex Soviet counties and not do anything?

There is a fine line between selling weapons and training/supplying extremist to destabilize (Pro Russian) governments

[m>s]

Or foreign policy should always be to defend democracie

you're making a couple of assumptions here. 1) that all countries want democracy as their system of governance and 2) that democracy is the best form of governance

i think you're wrong on both accounts.

[m>s]

oh and 3) that even if 1 and 2 were true, that it's our place to make it happen by force

disagreed there too

[ChumpDumper]

Or foreign policy should always be to defend democracie.

So our overthrowing the democratically elected government of Iran was pretty much the worst thing we could have done.

I fully agree with you.

[pgardn]

Or foreign policy should always be to defend democracie. Are you saying then we should also give up on mexico? Let Russia just take back all their ex Soviet counties and not do anything?

Mexico?

Mexico does not come close to the corruption in Ukraine.

[m>s]

Are you Fckn kidding? Look what they have down to Lebanon and now Syria?
Jesus. They want control over the ME, that's why the Saudis, Egyptians etc... are building an army.
WTF are you reading?

We won't go into their extensive backing of Hezbollah... honestly where do people get this crap?

what the did iran do to lebanon and syria? US funded and backed ISIS is what tore syria the up. iran has offered nothing but support and assistance. fighting the guys who are beheading everyone and throwing christians off buildings.

[m>s]

Oh yes it does. We can hit Iranian missiles quicker headed for israel. We have already used this excuse. And the Poles want them. And I'm not Jewish Ya GD Nazi. I just despise Nazis.

The little man is making moves that are setting up the US for further intervention to bolster NATO. Only problem is the Russians can't match the money we alot for rearming. You think they would learn.

And Cuba and Mexico, they don't despise us like the Poles do Russia. Good luck with that fantasy. Like it or not, who is the big dog? Say it.

why would we need them in poland when the ones in germany can do this just as well?

[pgardn]

you're making a couple of assumptions here. 1) that all countries want democracy as their system of governance and 2) that democracy is the best form of governance

i think you're wrong on both accounts.

so what government do you prefer?
Does it involve freedom of the press and allowance for multiple political parties?

[pgardn]

why would we need them in poland when the ones in germany can do this just as well?

Because the Poles would let us have more control to use them.

[m>s]

so what government do you prefer?
Does it involve freedom of the press and allowance for multiple political parties?

i'm in favor of a one party nationalistic state, these work more efficiently without the pointless political infighting and fifth columns

[m>s]

Because the Poles would let us have more control to use them.

so you want to dominate yet another country and make them your for your own political ends

[spursncowboys]

what the did iran do to lebanon and syria? US funded and backed ISIS is what tore syria the up. iran has offered nothing but support and assistance. fighting the guys who are beheading everyone and throwing christians off buildings.

Us funded Isis?

[m>s]

Us funded Isis?

Lol this pleb

[Winehole23]

Us funded Isis?

allies against Assad. war is messy.

[pgardn]

allies against Assad. war is messy.

This one is especially messy.

We got Tikrit bombed and ready for any Iraqi govt. troops to enter along with Sunni militias and they wait to go in because they don't want Americans involved in defeating ISIS. It's rather funny and sad.

It really is a total mess.

[pgardn]

so you want to dominate yet another country and make them your for your own political ends

What, because the Russians have the Poles scared less?
Catchup GDammit!

I told you what your little man with a big ego is doing!

There are ethnic Russians in Poland that Putin would try and pull the same he did with Crimea and Ukraine, you don't think the Poles see the strategy? And WWII, the Russians were so kind to the Polish.
Get off it and think for a moment. Little man enjoys playing with fire.

[pgardn]

i'm in favor of a one party nationalistic state, these work more efficiently without the pointless political infighting and fifth columns

Well there you have it.
You want a Totalitarian State and I dont.
You want less freedom, I dont.

[spursncowboys]

So if US funded ISIS, is there a link to it?

[spursncowboys]

allies against Assad. war is messy.

Not the same thing.

[pgardn]

So if US funded ISIS, is there a link to it?

Not directly. Bunch o weapons used by one time "good guys" are American made.
Its ironic as we knew we had a mess on our hands because we trained some of these guys and they are using our a lot of our old equipment.

[spursncowboys]

Not directly. Bunch o weapons used by one time "good guys" are American made.
Its ironic as we knew we had a mess on our hands because we trained some of these guys and they are using our a lot of our old equipment.

If you're talking about them taking weapons left by the fleeing Iraqi's, ok. But if you're talking about the arms McCain wanted to send to the Syrian rebels, then you don't know what the you're talking about. Which is worse since you were such a bag about it with your pleb comment.

[spursncowboys]

Not directly. Bunch o weapons used by one time "good guys" are American made.
Its ironic as we knew we had a mess on our hands because we trained some of these guys and they are using our a lot of our old equipment.

Who did we train? You have no idea what the you're talking about.