The ST double standard ...

[K...]

wow, little boy diaz really scraping the barrel, Oh man, there's still crows to scare away, gosh damn it. My precious crop of e-cred, lord knows between the storms, the bandits, and the wolves i've earned my share of gods glory. THIS IS MT LAND. SMH Player fans.

[ElNono]

That was not evident you phrased your sentence, btw your question does not make a lot of sense. Not sure what Parker needs to figure out on cp3 he played him often and there is nothing new in the way cp3 is playing unless you wanted to play the smart ass.

im confident Spurs and Kawhi will figure out the double teams and defensive pressure he will get from now on soon enough. Kawhi is a fast learner. Now I'm a bit surprised seeing him and Spurs taken apparently off guard. This was to be expected after his last 20 games surge offensively tbh

So Kawhi, Tony, or you're not a betting man?

[Brazil]

On a serious note, player fans are so sensitive

people should chill, I took all precaution possible in op to avoid player fans and whine. I'm just talking about one game, one bad game happens. I recognize Kawhi is Spurs best player and this is his team and cherry on the cake I said Spurs will win the serie and Kawhi will receive all credit he deserves. I also stated numerous times parker had a terrible game 1... Not sure what I can do more than that unless it is now forbidden to say anything remotely negative about Kawhi Leonard. It is one thread about a game vs. half of dozen about Parker...

Damn this is worst than Vichy regime and people complained about Bruno

[ElNono]

[RD2191]

On a serious note, player fans are so sensitive

people should chill, I took all precaution possible in op to avoid player fans and whine. I'm just talking about one game, one bad game happens. I recognize Kawhi is Spurs best player and this is his team and cherry on the cake I said Spurs will win the serie and Kawhi will receive all credit he deserves. I also stated numerous times parker had a terrible game 1... Not sure what I can do more than that unless it is now forbidden to say anything remotely negative about Kawhi Leonard. It is one thread about a game vs. half of dozen about Parker...

Damn this is worst than Vichy regime and people complained about Bruno

man up and admit that you're a parker fan. you got so butthurt that you made a thread to ask why more people weren't blaming kawhi.

[Brazil]

So Kawhi, Tony, or you're not a betting man?

Betting on what ? Parker has nothing to figure out (in terms of adjustments / game plan), he has to play better. Kawhi has a new stuff to learn, things are not comparable.

If if the bet is on what will be first: Kawhi figuring out double teams or parker playing better Id bet on Kawhi. I trust our mvp more than parker dominating cp3

[ElNono]

On a serious note, player fans are so sensitive

people should chill, I took all precaution possible in op to avoid player fans and whine. I'm just talking about one game, one bad game happens. I recognize Kawhi is Spurs best player and this is his team and cherry on the cake I said Spurs will win the serie and Kawhi will receive all credit he deserves. I also stated numerous times parker had a terrible game 1... Not sure what I can do more than that unless it is now forbidden to say anything remotely negative about Kawhi Leonard. It is one thread about a game vs. half of dozen about Parker...

Damn this is worst than Vichy regime and people complained about Bruno

It's true though that's difficult to criticize some players in this place and not come out as a hater, tbh...

I mean, until this season, saying anything less-than-complementary about Tony was viewed as some sort of trolling, even though historically there's been legit questions about him...

Now Kawhi seems to be enjoying some sort of protection cloak, probably largely due to being Finals MVP last season...

But really, no player should be above the fray when it comes to pointing out valid basketball opinions...

[RD2191]

It's a nice article, except it doesn't back what you are saying. Well, it does show that he has had a bit of a decline, but that was easy for all of us to see; we didn't need the article to see he is taking more jumpers and finishing at a lower rate at the rim then in years past. But the stats themselves are misleading because they don't tell the whole story. Yes, Tony has had a slight uptick in turnovers, but that doesn't mean that Mills or Cojo are better ball handlers. If you watch the game, which is dubious, but I'll assume you do, then you'll see that neither Mills or Cojo are the primary handlers or creators when they are in the game. On offense, they play off the ball, especially Cojo. The creators are Manu and Bellineli. So that's why they have less turnovers. As the article points out, Parker has never been a great assists guy, so there isn't much there. The article does say that Duncan and Green have improved their shooting while playing with Parker, which makes sense since he seems to find both after penetrating and kicking out for jumpers. And the second unit has better passers than the starters, so of course the assist rate is higher among them. Manu and Diaw and Splitter are among the best passers in the NBA at their positions. The starters run things differently, including iso plays for Kawhi and post ups for Tim and then Tony pick and rolls that tend to end in Tony jumpers mean less assists. That said, the article points out that Tony is still a great shooter, which is why the Clippers have to guard him, even if he is having an off night. And again, I'll reiterate, that Mills's and Cojo's numbers are a bit inflated because most of their stats come against second stringers. They aren't logging 30 minutes against Paul or their numbers would look bad, especially their defense numbers. All in all, you can say Tony is struggling, but he's still better than what is behind him. Perhaps the biggest dig and posting and worshiping this article is that it was written back in January, when Tony was injured and not playing well, and it doesn't account for when he turned things around in the second half and gave big contributions to the Spurs winning streak. So again, Article is meh, but certainly doesn't back up your nonsense opinions.

Virtually everyone is aware of the on/off impact that Kawhi Leonard has had this year with the Spurs. When Kawhi's on the court, they've played excellent ball. When he's not, they've been... shaky, to say the least. Fewer are aware of the fact that Tony Parker's on-court presence has been essentially the opposite. With Parker on the court, San Antonio has been outscored by one point. Their defense has been atrocious and their offense has been below par. With Parker off, they've been absolutely excellent, outscoring opponents by 7.6 points. Here are some simple numbers on San Antonio's team performance with Tony Parker on and off the court from the current season:

[ElNono]

Betting on what ? Parker has nothing to figure out (in terms of adjustments / game plan), he has to play better. Kawhi has a new stuff to learn, things are not comparable.

If if the bet is on what will be first: Kawhi figuring out double teams or parker playing better Id bet on Kawhi. I trust our mvp more than parker dominating cp3

Although I feel Tony can bust out for a 30pt game in this series, tbh

[Brazil]

man up and admit that you're a parker fan. you got so butthurt that you made a thread to ask why more people weren't blaming kawhi.

Betting on what ? Parker has nothing to figure out (in terms of adjustments / game plan), he has to play better. Kawhi has a new stuff to learn, things are not comparable.

If if the bet is on what will be first: Kawhi figuring out double teams or parker playing better Id bet on Kawhi. I trust our mvp more than parker dominating cp3

your lack of finesse is sometimes mind blowing tbh

i made a thread to call out hypocrites using double standard as a religion

im a fan of all Spurs players, I want them to play well, I don't root for a player to suck... Ya I know it's quite shocking nowadays

[eric365]

Big ing whoop, Andrea Bargnani made the cover that year too:

Some countries with a nba player gets a local cover like this one of bargnani

But tony was on the cover for the us and most of the countries that year

Obviously i don t think it will convince you and you will spin this because you're just here to hate

[RD2191]

your lack of finesse is sometimes mind blowing tbh

i made a thread to call out hypocrites using double standard as a religion

im a fan of all Spurs players, I want them to play well, I don't root for a player to suck... Ya I know it's quite shocking nowadays

bull ing . you're butthurt because your fav player is getting rightfully ted on.

[Brazil]

I mean, until this season, saying anything less-than-complementary about Tony was viewed as some sort of trolling, even though historically there's been legit questions about him...

Short memory

well before the Robertos... Site has always been full of people giving to parker: tjastal, FkLA, timvpdpotfwankeridiot, all the dudes with a name starting with Diego, manu... Stop acting like it's kinda new you are not credible.

[Brazil]

Although I feel Tony can bust out for a 30pt game in this series, tbh

he probably will one game or two and will relieve a bit of pain and make things easier for everybody but he won't play consistently this serie or during the POs imo

[ElNono]

Short memory

well before the Robertos... Site has always been full of people giving to parker: tjastal, FkLA, timvpdpotfwankeridiot, all the dudes with a name starting with Diego, manu... Stop acting like it's kinda new you are not credible.

timvpdpotfwankeridiot was banned from upstairs... so if the chatter was there, it was short lived.

It's ok though, have a french mod at the time probably had something to do with it...

[Brazil]

bull ing . you're butthurt because your fav player is getting rightfully ted on.

that or you lack of finesse to fully understand everything... That's a lot of stuff to read in English

[RD2191]

that or you lack of finesse to fully understand everything... That's a lot of stuff to read in English

why won't you admit it? what are you worried about?

[Brazil]

timvpdpotfwankeridiot was banned from upstairs... so if the chatter was there, it was short lived.

It's ok though, have a french mod at the time probably had something to do with it...

he had banned after months of spamming he had a good life and we still talk about him... Ultimate recognition

but I see you forgot all the others it's all good tho ST never criticized parker before this year dat credibility

[Brazil]

why won't you admit it? what are you worried about?

That I'm butthurt ? about what ? I'm not the one creating a daily thread about a player I don't like tbh... So no sorry to disappoint you brah

[RD2191]

That I'm butthurt ? about what ? I'm not the one creating a daily thread about a player I don't like tbh... So no sorry to disappoint you brah

That you're a huge Parker fan and that it hurts you when people insult him.

[Cry Havoc]

Waaaaaay back on page 4. Still applies!

You can tell how robdiaz isn't mad or taking this personally by his 50 posts in a 4 page thread.

[FkLA]

Most of definition include FGAs / FTAs but also TOs and Assists... this gives us an idea of a player usage that was higher than Parker. Again what you described between 3 games and other 2s is your eye test or the way you see it. I don't think Kawhi's feeding yesterday was the main issue. Opinions.

Ok, so you think Kawhi had the ball in his hands more often simply bc Rique did a whole lot of nothing during his dribble dribble dribble (no FGAs, FTs or assts)?

at it just being the way I see it, as if how many touches a player gets is subjective. Check the thread I made to see if it's 'just the way I see it'. He hasn't been fed early like he was during the dominant stretch of the steak...mainly bc Pop still insists on running the offense through a fat, over the hill PG.

the good thing is we are almos the only ones still trying to talk about ball

I'm talking about double standard because parker received all the crap for his bad game and Kawhi escaped from that because of YOUR double standards not mines. Yesterday he defended poorly, had the worst +/- of the team, get stuck in double teams, kept the ball too long but nobody wanted to discuss about it, easier to blast Parker again.

My thread is not a shot at Kawhi, a bad game happen. He will step up, he always stepped up and he will carry his team to a first round win and I will give him props for doing so, for now I'm having fun on ST double standards and give him his share of responsability for yesterday's loss.

The good thing about Kawhi is that even in 'bad' games he puts up 18 on efficient shooting, rebounds, has more assists than the starting PG and grabs steals. If his 'bad' games ever reach the level of tiness that Rique's 'bad' games reach, then talk about a double standard.

[RD2191]

Waaaaaay back on page 4. Still applies!

hey I'm surprised your gf isn't in here fighting your battles for you.

[Agloco]

Waaaaaay back on page 4. Still applies!

Prolly has over 200 now lol

[RD2191]

Prolly has over 200 now lol

hey so when was parker ever blamed for a loss? did you come up with an answer yet?