It's Over And Probably In Five

[SnakeBoy]

I am going get skull ed if the Spurs win the series. I've made some bold claims to say the least.

If the Spurs win nobody will give a what your predictions were and even if they do you'll be able to just say "glad I was wrong". That's why it is such a chicken prediction.

[playbonner15]

in before the gentleman's sweep.

[RD2191]

If the Spurs win nobody will give a what your predictions were and even if they do you'll be able to just say "glad I was wrong". That's why it is such a chicken prediction.

Bull . I'm not going to hear the end of it. Clips in 5, stay mad bro.

[look_at_g_shred]

in before the gentleman's sweep.

[weebo]

Stop watching if losing a game is that damaging to your psyche. I've said it in other threads already: Losing the first game of the first series does not win you or lose you a championship. The Spurs could easily win on Wed. and people here will be claiming how the Spurs have all the momentum going home. So enough with these boo-hoo threads. Its a ing sport not life.

[TD 21]

- An understated part of last year's run was Ginobili's excellence..while Parker was mediocre and inconsistent throughout the run, Ginobili was able to play the facilitator role at a high level, probably his best playoff run in 4 or 5 years..Parker's progressive decline has continued, but unlike last year, Ginobili isn't playing anywhere near the same level to negate it..

- The mileage..2 straight runs into June, can't ignore that..

Yeah, if the NBA had a playoffs MVP, as opposed to a Finals one, I'd have had Ginobili (who, despite what ElNono claims, had a strong regular season too) just after Duncan last season. For some reason it's flown under the radar just how bad he's been the past few months. He wasn't great early either, but he's gotten progressively worse as the season has worn on and for the first time, it can't be blamed on an injury.

If you think about it, out of the eight that truly matter, relative to expectations, only Leonard, Duncan and Green, have played well this season. , out of the rest of the roster, I'd only add Baynes, Joseph and maybe Ayres, though it's difficult to judge him given that he played so few meaningful minutes.

They also damn near played into June in '12. That's three straight deep runs, when Duncan and Ginobili were old before it even began and Parker and to a lesser extent, Diaw and Bonner weren't far off. It was bound to catch up to them eventually.

[HI-FI]

I dont think its over in 5. I think Spurs could steal one in LA, but I could see Clippers winning in SA too. Agree with robdiaz that Clippers may play with more fire but I could see them imploding as well if things turn for the worse, especially with that nepotism.

It it would've been nice to get that no.2 spot, as I doubt Sours will get much ref hookups. not sure how much to blame on Pop or key players like Enrique giving very little.

still, I think Spurs can survive this.

Been saying the same thing tbh, tho I don't think the run is over. Duncan and Manu are still capable players; Spurs just need to find a Parker replacement. Monta Ellis is a free agent this offseason...

How they going to find Parker's replacement? Don't we have to eat the $45 million sandwich for a few more years?

[DMC]

It's so typical of, as Harlem would say, vanilla fans, with their cliche takes, to say "it's only one game" . . . and in the literal sense, it is, of course.

But you have to take everything on a case by case basis. The signs of a team that is out of gas have been abundantly clear all season, yet the vast majority have chosen to ignore them. Even during the surge from February 27th until the final game of the season, it never felt the same as not just last season, but any of the three previous this group has played together. That's because it was mostly due to Leonard playing the best all around ball in the league and willing this team to a heights they're no longer capable of collectively sustaining.

Normally in these situations ('03 Lakers, '08 Spurs, '11 Lakers, '14 Heat), when it's over for these teams, it ends ugly. It seems hard to imagine now, but think of the way those teams went down. Next to no one saw those beat downs coming, either.

The unfortunate thing about this time is, whether Duncan and Ginobili play one final season or not, it really is the end of the run. In '08, the core was still good enough; they just needed to replenish the role players. That's no longer the case.

They're not beating this team in a series. Yeah, the schedule has been brutal lately, Leonard's out, Parker may not be 100%, it's December, etc., but how many times do we need to see the same things against them before we stop making excuses? The ease with which the Thunder play against them speaks volumes.

It's time the front office face reality, stop hoping to get lucky and pulls off a significant trade. There may be nothing they can do to change their standing, but they need to at least try.

[pgardn]

Wow.

Nice finds.

[Robz4000]

I dont think its over in 5. I think Spurs could steal one in LA, but I could see Clippers winning in SA too. Agree with robdiaz that Clippers may play with more fire but I could see them imploding as well if things turn for the worse, especially with that nepotism.

It it would've been nice to get that no.2 spot, as I doubt Sours will get much ref hookups. not sure how much to blame on Pop or key players like Enrique giving very little.

still, I think Spurs can survive this.


How they going to find Parker's replacement? Don't we have to eat the $45 million sandwich for a few more years?

They'll have loads of cap room this offseason even with Enrique's albatross. A max contract for Kawhi, a $8-$9 million contract for Green, $5-$6 million if Duncan comes back, and $4-$5 million for Manu if he does. Should still be enough to sign a difference maker afterwards.

[Capt Bringdown]

The past few years Parker has been our best player. He's fallen off due to father time and we don't have anyone to replace his leadership and creativity.

[Ditty]

Spurs in 6 if Pop makes the adjustments we are all recommending. If not I don't know...

[lefty]

I think we still have a chance, despite Porker

[benefactor]

[ElNono]

Yeah, if the NBA had a playoffs MVP, as opposed to a Finals one, I'd have had Ginobili (who, despite what ElNono claims, had a strong regular season too) just after Duncan last season. For some reason it's flown under the radar just how bad he's been the past few months. He wasn't great early either, but he's gotten progressively worse as the season has worn on and for the first time, it can't be blamed on an injury.

Meh, this is Gino and Tim time to shine. It's no surprise this team has rang largely when Tim and Gino have taken the team through the finish line. Doesn't have to be every game or every series (Tim was pretty poor against Dallas last playoffs, Manu was nearly non-existent against Portland).

Not even knocking your opinion, tbh... I just find it difficult to bet against these compe ors in the playoffs.

[HI-FI]

They'll have loads of cap room this offseason even with Enrique's albatross. A max contract for Kawhi, a $8-$9 million contract for Green, $5-$6 million if Duncan comes back, and $4-$5 million for Manu if he does. Should still be enough to sign a difference maker afterwards.

thats good news, better than I figured.

[gilmor2002]

What's is sad is that if we can't win it this year, it's almost certain that Pop, Duncan and Manu will retire.. Nothing else to fight for..

So the team is left with Porker and Kawhi to lead the team and this forum will go down to doldrums with Porker bashing every single day.

[K...]

Fascinating. But Monta would be the Gino replacement not the parker replacement. In other words parker would start as the ball handler and defer to monta as the game wore on. parker would focus on outside shooting, basically, the 2ndary chucker.

but o man the buthurt when monta won't pass to Kawhi would be legendary

[look_at_g_shred]

What's is sad is that if we can't win it this year, it's almost certain that Pop, Duncan and Manu will retire.. Nothing else to fight for..

So the team is left with Porker and Kawhi to lead the team and this forum will go down to doldrums with Porker bashing every single day.

guess your new here...

[Ice009]

Do you guys want Monta Ellis now?

[ElNono]

Go ask Mavfan what they think about Monta after their first game against Houston...

[TheGoldStandard]

Do you guys want Monta Ellis now?

It would be nice to have someone who can actually attack the paint and score...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

It's so typical of, as Harlem would say, vanilla fans, with their cliche takes, to say "it's only one game" . . . and in the literal sense, it is, of course.

But you have to take everything on a case by case basis. The signs of a team that is out of gas have been abundantly clear all season, yet the vast majority have chosen to ignore them. Even during the surge from February 27th until the final game of the season, it never felt the same as not just last season, but any of the three previous this group has played together. That's because it was mostly due to Leonard playing the best all around ball in the league and willing this team to a heights they're no longer capable of collectively sustaining.

Normally in these situations ('03 Lakers, '08 Spurs, '11 Lakers, '14 Heat), when it's over for these teams, it ends ugly. It seems hard to imagine now, but think of the way those teams went down. Next to no one saw those beat downs coming, either.

The unfortunate thing about this time is, whether Duncan and Ginobili play one final season or not, it really is the end of the run. In '08, the core was still good enough; they just needed to replenish the role players. That's no longer the case.

Thanks for the bump material got

[Ice009]

Go ask Mavfan what they think about Monta after their first game against Houston...

I actually like Monta Ellis. Have liked him since GS and I wanted him in the 2013 off-season. That is why I was asking. Hardly anyone here really had any interest in him back then, but I think with Pop coaching him, he could maybe get the best out of him. I thought that our bench attack could have been almost unstoppable with both Manu and Monta breaking down defenses.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

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