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    That is the mistake you continue to make, stop trying to use human logic with this...ok? It isn't real obvious this is far beyond our puny limitations, well it should be. That's why nobody knows a damn thing for sure.
    lol... then why do you pretend to know "there MUST be a designer" if you are just going to play the whole "we dont understand" card

    you contradict yourself, old man

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    lol... then why do you pretend to know "there MUST be a designer" if you are just going to play the whole "we dont understand" card

    you contradict yourself, old man
    Wow~~~~~~

    Dude, you really are bad at picking up on what people are saying.

    We can't understand any of this, ok? That's why we have all those religions, just people trying to explain it,ok? That's what I mean by we don't understand...ok? Damn!

    I'm talking about all this not coming about by chance, and that should be very very obvious, it had to have been designed by something. I don't know what that was, nobody does so we find the story we like best, you like the....science says this...some others like...according to Allah...while others...God said....and on and on and on.

    I go with what makes the most sense.
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    lol... then why do you pretend to know "there MUST be a designer" if you are just going to play the whole "we dont understand" card

    you contradict yourself, old man
    WHy do you even try? Old man is as dumb as a box of rocks.

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    A.D. Alternative Design.


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    WHy do you even try? Old man is as dumb as a box of rocks.
    Dumb is this...WHy...hahaha!!!!!! Little man, there is nothing I can't take you totally to school in, ok? I can't believe you don't know that.

    Hey stupid, you do know that 90% of Americans disagree with spurraider, right?
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    It's like this....

    We humans simply cannot accept the fact we have finally found something so out of our relm of comprehension we can't fathom it. So we try everything to explain it. As we know we have had 1000's of Gods. Each tribe, group of people having a mul ude of Gods over everything.

    Pay attention....

    There are no Gods and there never has been, yep, one huge load of bull . But that doesn't mean we don't have something all powerful that put all this togerher. Who out there is naive enought to think the sun isn't the absolute perfect distance from us? Who thinks the speed the earth rotates at isn't absolutely perfect? The seasons, the nutrients in the ground. The sperm and the egg, it's all perfect. How could anyone think that didn't need a Designer? DNA?

    We have very few atheists because most people simply aren't that stupid, they understand the odds of this all coming about by chance are small. They know it would take something all powerful to give us all these things we need to survive.

    The Christian God is what people want things to be like, it sooths their mind makes them feel good. It's simple to play that just like it is with all the other Gods/religions.

    Our MasterBlaster, DeluxDesigner is not a God, Gods are man made.

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    a designer that caused the universe and life to be is also referred to as a god. not any one specific god. whether you call it a god, a designer, a creator, a watchmaker... we get it, they refer to the some en y. don't waste your time getting into the semantics of all of it.

    and again, as i have told you MANY times, saying

    a) i dont believe in a god

    and saying

    b) i know for certain god does not exist

    are two entirely different statements. i have always claimed choice A, and you repeatedly (and i mean REPEATEDLY) try to turn it into claim B. the fact that you always make the same mistakes over and over and over again during these discussions is why its hard for people here to take you seriously

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    a designer that caused the universe and life to be is also referred to as a god. not any one specific god. whether you call it a god, a designer, a creator, a watchmaker... we get it, they refer to the some en y. don't waste your time getting into the semantics of all of it.

    and again, as i have told you MANY times, saying

    a) i dont believe in a god

    and saying

    b) i know for certain god does not exist

    are two entirely different statements. i have always claimed choice A, and you repeatedly (and i mean REPEATEDLY) try to turn it into claim B. the fact that you always make the same mistakes over and over and over again during these discussions is why its hard for people here to take you seriously
    Not really asking for your approval or ok on this, ok? I'll get into anything I want, got it?

    You do not believe all this came about because of some supreme being so why the bull ? You believe there is no superior being so why the games?

    We aren't certain the sun with show up tomorrow, we aren't certain about anything, so that's lame.

    Do you believe Jesus Christ died for our sins? YES OR NO?
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    Not really asking for your approval or ok on this, ok? I'll get into anything I want, got it?
    i never suggested you needed my approval. just letting you know why you are rarely taken seriously around here

    You do npt believe all this came about because of some supreme being so why the bull ? You believe there is no superior being so why the games?
    you are right. i dont believe there is a superior being that created life and the universe. i'm not playing any games, i've been very clear about this for a long time

    We aren't certain the sun with show up tomorrow, we aren't certain about anything, so that's lame.
    i am certain the sun exists. there are actually many things we are certain about. the existence of a god is certainly not one of them

    Do you believe Jesus Christ died for our sins? YES OR NO?
    i thought i've been very clear about this. no, i dont believe in any of that. not sure why you needed to ask YES OR NO in all caps... i've expressed this many times

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    basically what that last rant told me is that you are unable to differentiate between:

    a) i dont believe in god

    and

    b) god doesn't exist

    if you can't understand the difference, that's fine. no need to get upset at me about it, though.

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    i never suggested you needed my approval. just letting you know why you are rarely taken seriously around here



    you are right. i dont believe there is a superior being that created life and the universe. i'm not playing any games, i've been very clear about this for a long time



    i am certain the sun exists. there are actually many things we are certain about. the existence of a god is certainly not one of them



    i thought i've been very clear about this. no, i dont believe in any of that. not sure why you needed to ask YES OR NO in all caps... i've expressed this many times
    Yeah, don't wanna take the one guy here who knows more about music, football, literature, life than anyone else here too seriously, hahaha!!!!!!!!!! Dude, why say stupid like that? Who here can't I take to school on a mul ude of things? Why you play that, ????

    I think only a total idiot would dismiss intelligent design. It makes far more sense than that silly you buy into it. And what's comical is you don't even see it.

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    There are no Gods and there never has been, yep, one huge load of bull . But that doesn't mean we don't have something all powerful that put all this togerher.

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    Yeah, don't wanna take the one guy here who knows more about music, football, literature, life than anyone else here too seriously, hahaha!!!!!!!!!! Dude, why say stupid like that? Who here can't I take to school on a mul ude of things? Why you play that, ????
    you do know quite a bit about those things. but every time you post one of your lists about them, people here just gloss over it. they don't take you seriously. you'll start a thread about blues and post a million songs and artists... and nobody here seems to care or take you seriously. there's a reason for that, and it's on full display in this thread

    I think only a total idiot would dismiss intelligent design. It makes far mor sense that that silly you buy into it. And what's comical is you don't even see it.
    that's your opinion. its not based on evidence or fact though. just on how you feel inside. and opinions based on internal feelings as opposed to evidence are not going to be taken seriously in a discussion like this

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    You cannot be this simple, it would be impossible.

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    you do know quite a bit about those things. but every time you post one of your lists about them, people here just gloss over it. they don't take you seriously. you'll start a thread about blues and post a million songs and artists... and nobody here seems to care or take you seriously. there's a reason for that, and it's on full display in this thread


    that's your opinion. its not based on evidence or fact though. just on how you feel inside. and opinions based on internal feelings as opposed to evidence are not going to be taken seriously in a discussion like this
    Hard to take things seriously when you don't know anything about them. Who can't talk movies, the news, burgers, sex sex and sex, that bores me so I go other places. And it has gotten enought play here to know it works. What do you do?

    And the only thing on display here is how out of touch with reality you are, you do know most people disagree with your stance, right? Why is that? Why do so few agree with you? And cool this...the facts....the only facts are we don't know how all this came about.

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    And the only thing on display here is how out of touch with reality you are, you do know most people disagree with your stance, right? Why is that? Why do so few agree with you? And cool this...the facts....the only facts are we don't know how all this came about.
    i don't think most people are as read up on it as i am either, and that's a big part of it. most people in this country believe in the bible, and jesus. that means most people disagree with you too.

    there is plenty of evidence that supports a big bang... not much evidence that supports a deity

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    i don't think most people are as read up on it as i am either, and that's a big part of it. most people in this country believe in the bible, and jesus. that means most people disagree with you too.

    there is plenty of evidence that supports a big bang... not much evidence that supports a deity
    And who here is as read up on music, track, football, literature as I am? See my point?

    Those who believe in Jesus and the Bible are saying what I;m saying they do believe in a Designer, so they really aren't disagreeing with me.

    Dude, look at how you act, you try so hard to belittle others, thats how jerks act and most the jerks I;ve known are atheists.

    So you really believe something as complex as DNA came from ...BIG BANG...are you serious?

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    And who here is as read up on music, track, football, literature as I am? See my point?
    yeah, and when it comes to track and the blues, i'll defer to you. when it comes to sciences, you should defer to those who actually know about it.

    Those who believe in Jesus and the Bible are saying what I;m saying they do believe in a Designer, so they really aren't disagreeing with me.
    you disagree with them in a great way. they believe in a god with a personality who had a son, etc. their beliefs are different than yours

    Dude, look at how you act, you try so hard to belittle others
    i dont try that hard. when it comes to these discussions, you basically belittle yourself by making yourself look stupid. i just point it out

    thats how jerks act and most the jerks I;ve known are atheists.
    oh look, more anecdotal evidence. this is your go-to move

    So you really believe something as complex as DNA came from ...BIG BANG
    why do you keep asking questions to which you already know the answer?

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    If I was ed up like he is I wouldn't believe in god either
    "God did NOT create the Universe", says Stephen Hawking. To which God replied, "enjoy your chair"

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    yeah, and when it comes to track and the blues, i'll defer to you. when it comes to sciences, you should defer to those who actually know about it.


    you disagree with them in a great way. they believe in a god with a personality who had a son, etc. their beliefs are different than yours


    i dont try that hard. when it comes to these discussions, you basically belittle yourself by making yourself look stupid. i just point it out


    oh look, more anecdotal evidence. this is your go-to move


    why do you keep asking questions to which you already know the answer?
    How many religions agree with each other, yet they all believe in a Designer. Which is all that matters, how that is done means nothing. So we pretty much do agree, yep, wrong again.

    So you are saying unless all of us agree with you we look stupid, right? So I look stupid because I'm like the vast majority of people, right? So Hawking is stupid, right? Isn't he saying what I am?

    I asked about the Big BANG/DNA because it is absolutely impossible to have both and you don't even realize that, wow!

    And stop with this stupid....those who know science...haha!!!!!! You have any idea at all how many times science has been wrong?

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    i thought i've been very clear about this. no, i dont believe in any of that. not sure why you needed to ask YES OR NO in all caps... i've expressed this many times
    The historical record is pretty clear that Jesus willingly died for our sins. Not sure why you wouldn't believe something that happened. The big question is was he the Son of God or just some guy who gave his life based on a delusion.

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    The historical record is pretty clear that Jesus willingly died for our sins. Not sure why you wouldn't believe something that happened. The big question is was he the Son of God or just some guy who gave his life based on a delusion.
    no, not really

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    How many religions agree with each other, yet they all believe in a Designer. Which is all that matters, how that is done means nothing. So we pretty much do agree, yep, wrong again.
    yeah but all religions also disagree with each other. they are all theist, i'll grant you that. but most religions are ancient and used religion as an explanation for things they didn't understand. much of which we have come to understand since then.

    So you are saying unless all of us agree with you we look stupid, right? So I look stupid because I'm like the vast majority of people, right?
    no, i dont think you're stupid because you disagree with me. i think you're stupid based on some of your responses. based on your misunderstanding of things i say. based on you repeatedly making the same argumantative mistakes... over and over again.

    So Hawking is stupid, right? Isn't he saying what I am?
    no, hawking is an atheist. if you read what i posted on page 1, this article was completely false and the website that posted it is a fake news website

    I asked about the Big BANG/DNA because it is absolutely impossible to have both and you don't even realize that, wow!
    it's not impossible at all. ask any scientist... or people who spend their lives studying this

    And stop with this stupid....those who know science...haha!!!!!! You have any idea at all how many times science has been wrong?
    yeah. i also know how many times it's been right. science also corrects itself. you like to mock all the times science was found to be wrong. you know how those mistakes were discovered? through science.

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    "God did NOT create the Universe", says Stephen Hawking. To which God replied, "enjoy your chair"
    Jesus was God in the flesh, not the son of God.

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    Jesus was God in the flesh, not the son of God.
    i thought you dont believe in jesus and all that stuff?

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