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    yeah but all religions also disagree with each other. they are all theist, i'll grant you that. but most religions are ancient and used religion as an explanation for things they didn't understand. much of which we have come to understand since then.


    no, i dont think you're stupid because you disagree with me. i think you're stupid based on some of your responses. based on your misunderstanding of things i say. based on you repeatedly making the same argumantative mistakes... over and over again.


    no, hawking is an atheist. if you read what i posted on page 1, this article was completely false and the website that posted it is a fake news website


    it's not impossible at all. ask any scientist... or people who spend their lives studying this


    yeah. i also know how many times it's been right. science also corrects itself. you like to mock all the times science was found to be wrong. you know how those mistakes were discovered? through science.
    Well if ya think I;m stupid no need to go on with this.

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    i thought you dont believe in jesus and all that stuff?
    And you wanna talk about being stupid, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude, is Santa Clause not a fat guy with a beard who rides around behind some reindeers delivering gifts? DOES THAT MEAN i BELIEVE IN HIM?

    Dude,you really do struggle at getting things, dead serious. You don't ever seem to get it.

    MosES parted the Red Sea, ok? The Hulk is big and green, ok? Wanna talk about Lois Lane and Clark Kent?

    Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    And you wanna talk about being stupid, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude, is Santa Clause not a fat guy with a beard who rides around behind some reindeers delivering gifts? DOES THAT MEAN i BELIEVE IN HIM?

    Dude,you really do struggle at getting things, dead serious. You don't ever seem to get it.

    Moss parted the Red Sea, ok? The Hulk is big and green, ok?

    Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    but according to the bible jesus is very clearly the son of god

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    but according to the bible jesus is very clearly the son of god
    WHAT????????????????

    Dude, are you serious? Jesus was God coming to earth as a man, you really don't know that?

    Notice how you totally ignored what I said about not getting things? Why do you do that?

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    Jesus was God in the flesh, not the son of God.
    Correct, but it's just an expression to differentiate between God (the Father) and God (the Son).

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    judy's church group will be disappointed


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    judy's church group will be disappointed

    spurraider this is the one ya simply...ok I was wrong....ok?


    One of a thousand, trust me!

    Because Jesus was God in the flesh, He alone could pay the debt we owed to God. His victory over death and the grave won the victory for everyone who puts their trust in Him (John 1:12; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, 17).



    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/God-in-t...#ixzz3Y1K1pgt6

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    spurraider this is the one ya simply...ok I was wrong....ok?


    One of a thousand, trust me!

    Because Jesus was God in the flesh, He alone could pay the debt we owed to God. His victory over death and the grave won the victory for everyone who puts their trust in Him (John 1:12; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, 17).



    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/God-in-t...#ixzz3Y1K1pgt6
    from your link...

    Jesus Himself understood the speculation about His iden y. He asked His disciples, "Who do people say that I am?" (Matthew 16:13;Mark 8:27). The answers varied, as they do today. Then Jesus asked a more pressing question: "Who do you say that I am?" (Matthew 16:15). Peter gave the right answer: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16). Jesus affirmed the truth of Peter’s answer and promised that, upon that truth, He would build His church (Matthew 16:18).

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    believe it or not, avante, i studied this . at my school we had weekly religion class every year from 1st grade through 8th grade. my grandfather was a priest

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    believe it or not, avante, i studied this . at my school we had weekly religion class every year from 1st grade through 8th grade. my grandfather was a priest
    And I have been married to a woman for over 30 years who teaches Sunday school and who was raised by a religious freak. And I once got curious about just this. So just like them blues/track/football I did the homework and read everything.

    I can totally overwelm you with tons of info telling you that Jesus was God in the flesh. There really is no debate here.


    God came as man in the person of Jesus Christ
    The hypostatic union- the Son as the visible representation of the invisible Father, that he took on human flesh- two natures in one person, 100% humanity and 100% deity. Each are their own nature that did not intermingle but made up the person of Jesus.
    Col 1:15 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.”
    The word firstborn does not have anything to do with born. It means first in rank, an heir, to have preeminence in position, not origin. As in Rev.1:5, Heb.1:5-6 both clarify the meaning of firstborn by its context. Christ was not the first raised from the dead to eternal life in the body. Which gives him headship over the human race.
    The Father is over the Son positionally, just as the husband is the same nature as his wife but over his wife in position

    spurraider, don't fight this one, ok? You will come off looking totally ridiculous, alright?
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    I can totally overwelm you with tons of info telling you that Jesus was God in the flesh. There really is no debate here.
    He was. He was also the Son of God.

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    And I have been married to a woman for over 30 years who teaches Sunday school and who was raised by a religious freak. And I once got curious about just this. So just like them blues/track/football I did the homework and read everything.

    I can totally overwelm you with tons of info telling you that Jesus was God in the flesh. There really is no debate here.


    God came as man in the person of Jesus Christ
    The hypostatic union- the Son as the visible representation of the invisible Father, that he took on human flesh- two natures in one person, 100% humanity and 100% deity. Each are their own nature that did not intermingle but made up the person of Jesus.
    Col 1:15 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.”
    The word firstborn does not have anything to do with born. It means first in rank, an heir, to have preeminence in position, not origin. As in Rev.1:5, Heb.1:5-6 both clarify the meaning of firstborn by its context. Christ was not the first raised from the dead to eternal life in the body. Which gives him headship over the human race.
    The Father is over the Son positionally, just as the husband is the same nature as his wife but over his wife in position

    spurraider, don't fight this one, ok? You will come off looking totally ridiculous, alright?
    there's a reason christians say "the father, the son, and the holy spirit"

    jesus is an extension of god... he is of god, but to deny that he was the son of god is just lunacy

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    there's a reason christians say "the father, the son, and the holy spirit"
    Ok, you wouldn't listen.



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    Ya'll are really just getting tripped up by the semantics of the concept of the Trinity. You're not alone, all of Islam can't grasp the concept and think Christianity is polytheistic.

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    so we're just going to ignore that jesus prayed to his father.

    ok.

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    so we're just going to ignore that jesus prayed to his father.

    ok.
    Fully man and fully God. I guess you don't know as much about Christianity as you think you know.

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    so we're just going to ignore that jesus prayed to his father.

    ok.
    Dude, you really don't have a clue about this.


    Yes I don't expect anyone to watch all of this, nut give it a few minutes,ok Do you have any idea at all how wrong you are?



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    the holy trinity are all of one en y, that's not of dispute. christianity is monotheistic.

    but jesus being the son of god is not even something that is part of debate

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    Fully man and fully God. I guess you don't know as much about Christianity as you think you know.
    spurraider listen to him and me, ok? Drop your, I can't be wrong...ok? You are 100% wrong, ok?

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    Fully man and fully God. I guess you don't know as much about Christianity as you think you know.
    It seems like Spurraider gets that but Avante definitely doesn't.

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    the holy trinity are all of one en y, that's not of dispute. christianity is monotheistic.

    but jesus being the son of god is not even something that is part of debate
    Dude...STOP IT...ok? You look totally stupid right now,ok? Why totally ignore those videos, telling you how it is?

    You want a few thousand more telling you you are wrong?

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    It seems like Spurraider gets that but Avante definitely doesn't.
    Dude, read it again, ok? You try so hard at this ya don't pay any attention,

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    Dude, you really don't have a clue about this.


    Yes I don't expect anyone to watch all of this, nut give it a few minutes,ok Do you have any idea at all how wrong you are?


    oh yay, we've started the part of every avante argument where he spams youtubes he's never watched. next we'll get articles he hasn't read

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    It seems like Spurraider gets that but Avante definitely doesn't.
    I don't think either of them fully gets it. It's a difficult concept. Like I said, 1.5 billion Muslims don't get it. even Jehovah's Witnesses can't grasp the concept and they're Christians.

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    oh yay, we've started the part of every avante argument where he spams youtubes he's never watched. next we'll get articles he hasn't read
    So now we get you realizing you're wrong again trying to act stupid. I watch every video I post. Keep in mind these are all old arguments done many times on these boards,

    Here ya go, learn about the Holy Trinity, something else you know nothing about.


    Why Break It Up?

    Why do we have to be confusing and break God up into three parts?

    It sounds confusing at first, but when we understand the jobs of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, breaking it up makes it easier for us to understand God. Many people have stopped using the term "Trinity" and started using the term "Tri-Unity" to explain the three parts of God and how they form the whole. Some use math to explain the Holy Trinity. We cannot think of the Holy Trinity as a sum of three parts (1 + 1 + 1 = 3), but instead show how each part multiplies the others to form a wonderful whole (1 x 1 x 1 = 1). Using the multiplication model, we show that the three form a union, thus why people have moved to calling it the Tri-Unity.

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