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  1. #51
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Lol....All you non athletes don't know what the you talking bout...Rondo a real ... give him to me....

    Besteva I'm dating this 22 yr old blond...one of the baddest es I've ever been with.....a Kool doing alright :-)

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    Rondo rang too, what's your point?
    The guilty culprit was the 2nd best player in Spur history, not RodmanPERIOD.

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    what a meltdown

    still this is BAD news for the Rockets

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    Unless you subscribe to the theory that Rodman threw the playoff game against Houston shooting 3 pointers and not covering Horry, because he had gambling problems and was mad at GM "Bill" Bass for not giving him a new contract.
    LT Robinson was the real issue. He was softer than Kim Kardashian's ass.

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    Well, I have thought about that line of reasoning for numerous things and the most consistent thing I could come up with is that we on here look at things more purely probably than someone with a basketball job making those decisions. What I mean by that is we only consider basketball and in honesty probably watch a lot more of other teams than many do. Not only that, we don't have the pressure of salary cap management, profit, etc..all of the other factors that go into a decision.

    Nor do we have the pressure. So while no doubt they probably underestimated how terrible he was at basketball, they also saw a big name and a chance to make a splash/create buzz and factored that in while we did not.

    Sure, some of the guys running teams I think are legitimately stupid at basketball related decisions, but they take into consideration things we don't other than just basketball/winning games. I don't agree with that mindset and its a closed club mostly with the same guys being recycled over and over it seems like (although coaching is going away from that with more new blood than ever), but that's what I reason in my head in situations like these.
    I get that the Kobe extension is a prime example. But Mavs have great attendance , were playing well, already had a ball dominant short starting caliber guard. Rondo is a name but really is he going tomove merchandise? Does Rondo get you any top tier free agent? The case you made here makes sense for other moves but this one was just ty even worse than the Kobe extension which i hated. On top of all this Cubes broke up a le team fluke or lightning in a bottle or not so that he could get back tyson, trade for rondo, sign amare, and get back JJB and Harris. It was dumb, dumb dumb.

    My team sucks so I know someone will throw that at me and we also have done some dumb things Kobe extension begging Dwight to stayt chasing Melo, lucky for us some of those morons saved us from ourselves. Hopefully rondo does the same.

    As for Kool if RC one of the best coaches in the game cant fix rondo what chance does Byron have? And Scott is more of a stubborn asshole than RC. Please unless we get him at a HUGE discount and even then not sure I want Rajon ...sorry.

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    I get that the Kobe extension is a prime example. But Mavs have great attendance , were playing well, already had a ball dominant short starting caliber guard. Rondo is a name but really is he going tomove merchandise? Does Rondo get you any top tier free agent? The case you made here makes sense for other moves but this one was just ty even worse than the Kobe extension which i hated. On top of all this Cubes broke up a le team fluke or lightning in a bottle or not so that he could get back tyson, trade for rondo, sign amare, and get back JJB and Harris. It was dumb, dumb dumb.

    My team sucks so I know someone will throw that at me and we also have done some dumb things Kobe extension begging Dwight to stayt chasing Melo, lucky for us some of those morons saved us from ourselves. Hopefully rondo does the same.

    As for Kool if RC one of the best coaches in the game cant fix rondo what chance does Byron have? And Scott is more of a stubborn asshole than RC. Please unless we get him at a HUGE discount and even then not sure I want Rajon ...sorry.
    The reason it's not as bad as Kobe because Mavs have choices. Rondo was a one year risk. If he plays great and the team clicks, great. You have the inside track on signing him for the most money anyways. If it blows up(like it did), you are out Wright and a very late 1st round pick which in the end isn't much.

    Kobe was bad because he's not a good player any more, is eating up the cap/delaying things for 2-3 more years & is untradeable too.

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    What I don't get is how you faces gonna try to trash a real mutha ing like Rondo...I mean here you got a that ain't getting ed in the ass...he was traded to a lame ass city that he didn't want to be in....that gonna be fine when he's in LA

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    What I don't get is how you faces gonna try to trash a real mutha ing like Rondo...I mean here you got a that ain't getting ed in the ass...he was traded to a lame ass city that he didn't want to be in....that gonna be fine when he's in LA
    Trayvon Martin looking mofo

    he's a scrub

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    The reason it's not as bad as Kobe because Mavs have choices. Rondo was a one year risk. If he plays great and the team clicks, great. You have the inside track on signing him for the most money anyways. If it blows up(like it did), you are out Wright and a very late 1st round pick which in the end isn't much.

    Kobe was bad because he's not a good player any more, is eating up the cap/delaying things for 2-3 more years & is untradeable too.
    Delaying things from what? Kobe actually saved us from Melo and Dwight signings. and there is no quick fix in sight. As for Dwight ven with his dunk fest against Mavs ty defense i dont want him at max. Great signing for Rox but glad he is not here. Also you just said that attendance, splash etc are factors in deals ...even though kobe is not good anymore he brings all of those things.

    Yes, Mavs commitment wasnt long term but they gave up what you said plus Crowder, Larkin (IIRC) and even if none by themselves are any good ....should net more than Rondo. Personally I dont care much now it's over and i was proven right. But just saying many of us saw this and just like we have trashed Presti for his follies Cubes and donnie deserve the same. Just because Cubes is funny, loves metrics doesnt shield him from ty moves. Neither does the 2011 le. Mitch has multiple les and he still has made some head scratching moves lately.

    For the record i actually enjoy cuban but he never wants to admit he was wrong so i will enjoy listening to him squirm on Ben & skin, Colishaw and Mosely and the K&C masterpiece etc. But im sure he will have reasons similar to yours on why he wasnt wrong.

    Lastly if Cubes and his team are so good at metrics why cant they see what the numbers and eye test all show ...that rondo sucks at some of the very essential parts of basketball for a PG?
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 04-22-2015 at 05:38 PM.

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    The biggest problem is Cuban built the team with the idea that a team with Dirk as their 3rd best player is going to be really good. He didn't expect Dirk to get so bad so quickly, and the pieces around him are all underacheiving in a huge way. At this point Dirk is no better than a 15-20 minute bench scorer.

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    Cubes tried to re-create the magic of lightning in a bottle. The major difference was that while the talent may have been similar, Dirk was worse & the role players were not nearly as seasoned or compe ive and had way more flaws.

    But at the end of the day, even with really solid role players (Calderon, Vince, Wright, Crowder) last year, losing in the first round was the end result anyways. It's just uglier now with Rondo, Felton, etc..

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    Delaying things from what? Kobe actually saved us from Melo and Dwight signings. and there is no quick fix in sight. As for Dwight ven with his dunk fest against Mavs ty defense i dont want him at max. Great signing for Rox but glad he is not here. Also you just said that attendance, splash etc are factors in deals ...even though kobe is not good anymore he brings all of those things.

    Yes, Mavs commitment wasnt long term but they gave up what you said plus Crowder, Larkin (IIRC) and even if none by themselves are any good ....should net more than Rondo. Personally I dont care much now it's over and i was proven right. But just saying many of us saw this and just like we have trashed Presti for his follies Cubes and donnie deserve the same. Just because Cubes is funny, loves metrics doesnt shield him from ty moves. Neither does the 2011 le. Mitch has multiple les and he still has made some head scratching moves lately.

    For the record i actually enjoy cuban but he never wants to admit he was wrong so i will enjoy listening to him squirm on Ben & skin, Colishaw and Mosely and the K&C masterpiece etc. But im sure he will have reasons similar to yours on why he wasnt wrong.

    Lastly if Cubes and his team are so good at metrics why cant they see what the numbers and eye test all show ...that rondo sucks at some of the very essential parts of basketball for a PG?
    What I meant was Kobe and Rondo were signed for the same logic, but Rondo was less risky because his deal expired. There are still 2 more years of Kobe's deal and possible headaches, losing etc...

    I do think Cubes/Donnie knew about Rondo's flaws, but over shot their analysis. They probably blamed the decline on playing for a losing team & being disinterested. They were wrong, he just sucked. It was definitely a mistake like many of us said for basketball reasons. I still don't fault them for trying though and IMO they didn't give up anything they will miss or that will matter.

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    So much respect for this guy.

    He sees a 'star' who is really a cancer and benches his ass.

    If only Pop had the balls, tbh.

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    I've never seen such a cancer in 17 years of wa'tching this sport
    No no no, he's just a misunderstood genius.

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    nothing but continuous lame suck em jerking in this thread....no real analysis of why players succeed and fail on certain teams... ooohh look mama I'm an expert now because I watch TV and can tell from what I see on the screen...

    Lame faces smh

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    you fellas circle jerk so much till yall got each others all over yourselves.....pathetic


    Rondo to LA - DO IT MITCH!!!!

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    For those of you who missed it from Game 2:


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    Damn, this is just sad watching Koolaid_Man. He used to be a halfway decent troll. SMH.

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    LOL laker fans thinking Ronda will save them next year... lol

    kool thinking Ronda is his "MAN" lol

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    For those of you who missed it from Game 2:

    That's pretty lame....

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    "Trading Jameer Nelson completely ed our season"
    -the most pathetic basketball quote ever
    Letting go of Brandan Wright's legendary ORTG might have done us in

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    There literally still are morons on twitter that think it's Rick's fault Rondo never fit in well.

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    I can't believe Rondo got the desk move to the basement/confiscated red stapler treatment halfway through a playoff series. How bad is he in the locker room that they had to send him away?

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    Anyone with a brain who isn't enamored with "names" knew Rondo had been really, really bad the past couple years. However, that doesn't mean the value of the gamble was bad. Sometimes trades are a gamble. While this one looks terrible after the fact (and many of us argued he wouldn't help at the time of the trade too), he didn't give up anything major to say it wasn't worth the gamble at the time.

    Rondo is awful, he's a bad fit everywhere that would actually be tyring to win a le, but Mavs had to do something. If anything, I don't fault the price, I fault the impatience.
    They were fun to watch and they would have won more regular season games not making the trade, but they weren't going to be making any noise in the playoffs with perimeter defense that bad. So I don't fault them at all for going for it and trying to improve at the PG position. Who knew Dragic would become available two months later. He would've been a MUCH BETTER fit for what they were trying to do.

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    There literally still are morons on twitter that think it's Rick's fault Rondo never fit in well.
    Not to defend Rondo, but Rick is notorious for treating his PG's like and micromanaging them to a fault.

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