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    Just got the final bill for my last surgery...it's crazy how hospitals and insurance companies do it. This one was to take out the antibiotic spacers and install a new artificial knee. I had the surgery on a Friday and went home Saturday afternoon. Some of the itemized charges were:

    surgical recovery room $1512
    regular room $1709.
    pharmacy $6914.
    pharmacy IV solutions $1020
    operating room services $25,918
    lab work over $5000
    knee implant $96,033.
    lots of other little charges...

    It all added up to $143,321.47

    They then "discounted" $99,600.00 to the insurance company which paid $40,115.91

    Crazy .

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    That's just America, baby. Best healthcare system in the world! AND a sale price to boot!

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    My wife just had a simple 30 minute procedure that had to be done in the hospital. Doctor's bill was $200, the hospitals bill was $5k.

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    And you right-wingers HATE "socialized" medicine, and vote for Repugs who block ANY discussion of govt insurance and govt employees as providers, even if you LOSE $100Ks over your lifetime to wealth-sucking BigInsurance and BigMed

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    Just got the final bill for my last surgery...it's crazy how hospitals and insurance companies do it. This one was to take out the antibiotic spacers and install a new artificial knee. I had the surgery on a Friday and went home Saturday afternoon. Some of the itemized charges were:

    surgical recovery room $1512
    regular room $1709.
    pharmacy $6914.
    pharmacy IV solutions $1020
    operating room services $25,918
    lab work over $5000
    knee implant $96,033.
    lots of other little charges...

    It all added up to $143,321.47

    They then "discounted" $99,600.00 to the insurance company which paid $40,115.91

    Crazy .
    good for you

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    Just got the final bill for my last surgery...it's crazy how hospitals and insurance companies do it. This one was to take out the antibiotic spacers and install a new artificial knee. I had the surgery on a Friday and went home Saturday afternoon. Some of the itemized charges were:

    surgical recovery room $1512
    regular room $1709.
    pharmacy $6914.
    pharmacy IV solutions $1020
    operating room services $25,918
    lab work over $5000
    knee implant $96,033.
    lots of other little charges...

    It all added up to $143,321.47

    They then "discounted" $99,600.00 to the insurance company which paid $40,115.91

    Crazy .
    It's ridiculous. They charge that much because they already know how much they're getting post "insurance discount", which is what really covers their cost + profit.

    But if you don't have insurance, don't get the "insurance discount" and have to pay out of pocket, they're just ridiculous numbers.

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    And you right-wingers HATE "socialized" medicine, and vote for Repugs who block ANY discussion of govt insurance and govt employees as providers, even if you LOSE $100Ks over your lifetime to wealth-sucking BigInsurance and BigMed
    Shut the up.

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    TB GFY So you support the corrupt, predatory, for-profit health care system impoverishing the nation? figures, all you right-wingers suck donkey

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    Got into a wreck last month, Flipped my car. Spent the morning in the hospital cost $32,000 have health insurance so that should cover most of it.

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    and then people sue the doctors if anything goes wrong so they have to pay malpractice.


    doctors and nurses are your friends. it's the hospitals and insurance companies (big businesses) that you over.

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    any form of insurance is just daylight robbery, just like car insurance

    a small bump, they want to replace the whole thing at the repairers and claim the full price instead of buying some used part to fit it in....

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    TB GFY So you support the corrupt, predatory, for-profit health care system impoverishing the nation? figures, all you right-wingers suck donkey
    off moron. I'm one of the few and early proponents of single payor.
    Your incessant takes continue to re the discussion.
    Just shut the up.

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    Just got the final bill for my last surgery...it's crazy how hospitals and insurance companies do it. This one was to take out the antibiotic spacers and install a new artificial knee. I had the surgery on a Friday and went home Saturday afternoon. Some of the itemized charges were:

    surgical recovery room $1512
    regular room $1709.
    pharmacy $6914.
    pharmacy IV solutions $1020
    operating room services $25,918
    lab work over $5000
    knee implant $96,033.
    lots of other little charges...

    It all added up to $143,321.47

    They then "discounted" $99,600.00 to the insurance company which paid $40,115.91

    Crazy .
    So hopefully the infection is gone.
    Hope you have a full recovery.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Got into a wreck last month, Flipped my car. Spent the morning in the hospital cost $32,000 have health insurance so that should cover most of it.
    You DO NOT want to see the bill for my double bypass last year. Unbelievable.

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    You DO NOT want to see the bill for my double bypass last year. Unbelievable.

    And hopefully you are up to full speed as well.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    I was until I read the billing do ents.

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    I was until I read the billing do ents.
    Yikes.

    Well you are here to pay.
    I guess that's a good thing.

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    so i assume ur next year premiums is going to increase?

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    Don't trust the white devil.....his company insurance paid most of the charges...Afflack paid the rest...and he still wrote off the expenses on his taxes....

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    and then people sue the doctors if anything goes wrong so they have to pay malpractice.


    doctors and nurses are your friends. it's the hospitals and insurance companies (big businesses) that you over.
    It's funny that most people think the doctor is the one pocketing all the money. An office visit to my wife is less than what a plumber charges to spend 5 minutes fixing a leaky faucet.

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    It's funny that most people think the doctor is the one pocketing all the money. An office visit to my wife is less than what a plumber charges to spend 5 minutes fixing a leaky faucet.
    Family practice doctors, yeah... some specialists though, it's crazy, tbh...

    Wife had an endoscopy not long ago, specialist booked her to do the "procedure" on a facility the doc owns, got bills from the specialist, and assistant, the facility, the anesthetist, some other specialist that apparently extracted sample tissue, the lab that analyzed it, yet another specialist that looked over the labs result. We're looking at it, and we're like, there's at least 3-4 people here we didn't even know if they were there or did . Everybody charging in the $1k-$2k range, except the lab (~$300)

    Fortunately, she has insurance, and it covered the bulk of it. My wife is an RN, and we're looking at the bills, and some is shady as , not to mention the doc herding patients to his own facility... probably gonna go see a different doc next time.

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    True. The pediatricians in my family earn a comparatively modest wage and are on call three times a week...very demanding and soul-crushing job imo.

    One of my brothers is a specialist and makes mad bank and is never on call. All he does is make schedules and sees patients to establish the doctor-patient relationship, diagnoses, and his assistants take care of the rest. He's a good doc though.

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    Stay out of hospitals, extremely dangerous to your physical health (hospital-acquired (MRSI), etc infections, avoidable medical errors,etc) and to your financial health.

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    the doc herding patients to his own facility
    Atul Gawande talks about this happening in McAllen, TX. The doc puts you on a diagnostic conveyor belt, and touches you up with a bunch of tests performed by his own med center tenants.

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