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    Skip with the truth bombs.


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    Spurs are reporting he will play tonight

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    The only thing Manu has done to change is jack all jump shots instead of driving. That's not a good thing. It's similar to TP settling for more mid-range because he can't get to the rim. Manu has had a below average season - TP has just been even less healthy and played worse. Don't think Manu has adjusted much - still has the TO's and now just takes more jump shots that don't connect (especially from 3).

    Their bodies limited them - they didn't adjust. Tim is someone who's adjusted and shifted. Right now Manu/TP's bodies forced them to play worse.
    Manu was pretty darned good at 32, tbh, even with a broken arm... heck he was pretty darned good last season. He's not the go-all-out scorer he was earlier in his career, he adjusted into a playmaker role, which was easy for him since he was always a great passer. Numbers reflect the adjustment was positive. His AST% has progressively been going up from 22% from his prime to around 30% since 09-10.

    That's not to say he had a great season this time around. But I think he'll be fine in that role, considering, as you said, the limits imposed in his body. And I still think he can have a major impact game here or there, like game 6 in OKC or game 5 of the Finals.

    As far as Tony, I like his floor general game. I'm just not sure the Spurs were prepared for his decline (compounded by the injuries, which were somewhat unexpected since he took the whole summer off).

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    I don't understand. The Spurs were up by 10 at this point. It is when Parker went to the bench that the offense stagnated.

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    I just hope Pop is the smart man here, and he doesn't insist on having TP guard CP3 or Red . Put him on Barnes, and see how he responds.

    Even if he's too hurt to play, that's a good way to minimize the damage.

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    I don't understand. The Spurs were up by 10 at this point. It is when Parker went to the bench that the offense stagnated.

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    I just hope Pop is the smart man here, and he doesn't insist on having TP guard CP3 or Red . Put him on Barnes, and see how he responds.

    Even if he's too hurt to play, that's a good way to minimize the damage.
    Agree. Put him on Barnes to hide him then use him to distribute on the offensive side. Being back at home I'm thinking big games from Green, Mills, Gino, etc...so hopefully we will have enough fire power without a big game needed from TP.

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    I don't understand. The Spurs were up by 10 at this point. It is when Parker went to the bench that the offense stagnated.
    Thats different, they missed easy layups and open looks (Boris Diaw, Tim Duncan, Marco).

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    Hurt Tony>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Healthy Joseph.

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    Tony, like all the other role players on the team, has been significantly better at home, this season..he shot 52% from the field at home vs. low-40s on the road..

    Expect him to come out aggressively and play well tonight IMO..

    Also, like many have been saying, there's no reason not to have him on Barnes, even if it may hurt rebounding..

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    Hopefully TP can just spell the 1Q guarding CP3. Keep Kawhi on JJ & Green elsewhere for a while. Keep their other guys cool. Spurs offense is generating such great looks that if the shoot like normal and TP can buy the Spurs a Q playing defense on CP, Spurs should be in really good shape.

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    Thats different, they missed easy layups and open looks (Boris Diaw, Tim Duncan, Marco).
    I guess Skip didnt see the same things I did and I'm sure what Pop noticed:

    After Tony is taken out of the game.

    The next sequence the Spurs have possession of the ball it never enters the three point arc and Diaw shoots an airball three. Pop then brings in Manu because obviously he saw the same thing I did and they need someone to dribble penetrate.
    Next sequence, Spurs run take 10 seconds to set up play (again ball never enters 3 point area) for an isolation to Kawhi who shoots an ill-advised fadeaway despite a shorter defender on him.
    Next sequence, ball is stolen by Matt Barnes on pass from manu to Diaw (again ball never enters 3 point area). Manu is forced to foul and is out of game (now no one to dribble penetrate).
    Next sequence, ball is passed around the perimeter for over 15 seconds before Diaw is able to get something going to rim. Unfortunately, he misses layup but Timmy puts it back in.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter and never enters three point area with Bellineli missing a 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter around three point area and Mills misses 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Diaw feeds Duncan on elbow. Duncan mishandles dribble and turnovers ball.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Bellineli finally scores 10 ft jumper off screen by Duncan.
    Next sequence, Duncan is forced to go iso on Jordan and gets his shot blocked.
    Next sequence, turnover by Spurs on dribble penetration by Bellineli.


    This is bad basketball and this is what happens when you don't have a PG like Parker (or at least Manu) that can do the things Parker can.

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    I guess Skip didnt see the same things I did and I'm sure what Pop noticed:

    After Tony is taken out of the game.

    The next sequence the Spurs have possession of the ball it never enters the three point arc and Diaw shoots an airball three. Pop then brings in Manu because obviously he saw the same thing I did and they need someone to dribble penetrate.
    Next sequence, Spurs run take 10 seconds to set up play (again ball never enters 3 point area) for an isolation to Kawhi who shoots an ill-advised fadeaway despite a shorter defender on him.
    Next sequence, ball is stolen by Matt Barnes on pass from manu to Diaw (again ball never enters 3 point area). Manu is forced to foul and is out of game (now no one to dribble penetrate).
    Next sequence, ball is passed around the perimeter for over 15 seconds before Diaw is able to get something going to rim. Unfortunately, he misses layup but Timmy puts it back in.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter and never enters three point area with Bellineli missing a 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter around three point area and Mills misses 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Diaw feeds Duncan on elbow. Duncan mishandles dribble and turnovers ball.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Bellineli finally scores 10 ft jumper off screen by Duncan.
    Next sequence, Duncan is forced to go iso on Jordan and gets his shot blocked.
    Next sequence, turnover by Spurs on dribble penetration by Bellineli.


    This is bad basketball and this is what happens when you don't have a PG like Parker (or at least Manu) that can do the things Parker can.
    Manu fouling out was the obvious issue, along with Tim being fatigued, and Hack-a-Jordan hurting the flow of the game..

    Manu was by far the best facilitator in last year's playoffs, Spurs would have been fine if he hadn't fouled out..

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    Manu fouling out was the obvious issue, along with Tim being fatigued, and Hack-a-Jordan hurting the flow of the game..

    Manu was by far the best facilitator in last year's playoffs, Spurs would have been fine if he hadn't fouled out..

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    I guess Skip didnt see the same things I did and I'm sure what Pop noticed:

    After Tony is taken out of the game.

    The next sequence the Spurs have possession of the ball it never enters the three point arc and Diaw shoots an airball three. Pop then brings in Manu because obviously he saw the same thing I did and they need someone to dribble penetrate.
    Next sequence, Spurs run take 10 seconds to set up play (again ball never enters 3 point area) for an isolation to Kawhi who shoots an ill-advised fadeaway despite a shorter defender on him.
    Next sequence, ball is stolen by Matt Barnes on pass from manu to Diaw (again ball never enters 3 point area). Manu is forced to foul and is out of game (now no one to dribble penetrate).
    Next sequence, ball is passed around the perimeter for over 15 seconds before Diaw is able to get something going to rim. Unfortunately, he misses layup but Timmy puts it back in.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter and never enters three point area with Bellineli missing a 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter around three point area and Mills misses 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Diaw feeds Duncan on elbow. Duncan mishandles dribble and turnovers ball.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Bellineli finally scores 10 ft jumper off screen by Duncan.
    Next sequence, Duncan is forced to go iso on Jordan and gets his shot blocked.
    Next sequence, turnover by Spurs on dribble penetration by Bellineli.


    This is bad basketball and this is what happens when you don't have a PG like Parker (or at least Manu) that can do the things Parker can.
    yeah, his 1.8 per was really needed

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    I guess Skip didnt see the same things I did and I'm sure what Pop noticed:

    After Tony is taken out of the game.

    The next sequence the Spurs have possession of the ball it never enters the three point arc and Diaw shoots an airball three. Pop then brings in Manu because obviously he saw the same thing I did and they need someone to dribble penetrate.
    Next sequence, Spurs run take 10 seconds to set up play (again ball never enters 3 point area) for an isolation to Kawhi who shoots an ill-advised fadeaway despite a shorter defender on him.
    Next sequence, ball is stolen by Matt Barnes on pass from manu to Diaw (again ball never enters 3 point area). Manu is forced to foul and is out of game (now no one to dribble penetrate).
    Next sequence, ball is passed around the perimeter for over 15 seconds before Diaw is able to get something going to rim. Unfortunately, he misses layup but Timmy puts it back in.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter and never enters three point area with Bellineli missing a 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter around three point area and Mills misses 3 point shot.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Diaw feeds Duncan on elbow. Duncan mishandles dribble and turnovers ball.
    Next sequence, ball is passed around perimeter, Bellineli finally scores 10 ft jumper off screen by Duncan.
    Next sequence, Duncan is forced to go iso on Jordan and gets his shot blocked.
    Next sequence, turnover by Spurs on dribble penetration by Bellineli.


    This is bad basketball and this is what happens when you don't have a PG like Parker (or at least Manu) that can do the things Parker can.
    Wrong, Parker played almost entirely during game 1 and they shot like , using your metrics Parker gives bad basketball.
    They missed shots and thats it, Parker was killing us as usual with his bad defense, slowness and 0 offensive game, he is a volume shooter and gaves you 20 points (killing the team) and he made what? 1 point? dude was garbage.
    You are over analyzing this.

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    Wrong, Parker played almost entirely during game 1 and they shot like , using your metrics Parker gives bad basketball.
    They missed shots and thats it, Parker was killing us as usual with his bad defense, slowness and 0 offensive game, he is a volume shooter and gaves you 20 points (killing the team) and he made what? 1 point? dude was garbage.
    You are over analyzing this.
    it's you who are under analyzing it. So much easier to just say "I don't like him! He sucks!"

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    yeah, his 1.8 per was really needed
    Son this is basketball not a computer game. You think Pop is going to select his starting five by choosing those with the highest PER?

    Pop is going to show tape of the last 5 minutes of the game and point out what Spurs did wrong. Then he is going to make sure he has someone in there that can run the offense the way it is designed to.

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    Son this is basketball not a computer game. You think Pop is going to select his starting five by choosing those with the highest PER?

    Pop is going to show tape of the last 5 minutes of the game and point out what Spurs did wrong. Then he is going to make sure he has someone in there that can run the offense the way it is designed to.

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    Son this is basketball not a computer game. You think Pop is going to select his starting five by choosing those with the highest PER?

    Pop is going to show tape of the last 5 minutes of the game and point out what Spurs did wrong. Then he is going to make sure he has someone in there that can run the offense the way it is designed to.
    yeah, his 1 pt he contributed in game 2 is really going to be needed.

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    Yeah I'm not sure chasing around Chris Paul is the best thing for a Parker with a banged up body and a series of injuries. Maybe for spurts but I like what others have said around here, put Parker on Barnes and let them try and take advantage of that matchup.

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    yeah, his 1 pt he contributed in game 2 is really going to be needed.
    How does it feel to be unable to digest or understand facts contrary to your opinions. You seem to cling to simple facts and memes. I think you're better than that.

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    yeah, his 1 pt he contributed in game 2 is really going to be needed.

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