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    Enlighten me, as I don't live there. I just know my Texas-based coworkers pay enough less in taxes than we do in NYC to pay for their car. I just used BankRate for Oregon:

    For single taxpayers and married couples filing separate returns:

    • 5 percent on the first $3,300 of taxable income.
    • 7 percent on taxable income between $3,301 and $8,250.
    • 9 percent on taxable income between $8,251 and $125,000
    • 9.9 percent on taxable income of $125,001 and above.
    Bank rate is missing a tax rate. Lma would be in the 11.9 bracket

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    I'm watching him play right now, clanking soft jumpers, and I really do not want... but I guess we can't be picky.
    A summer with duncan learning how to post up wouldnt hurt his game at all. Does he have that dedication???

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    Tax differences won't even offset a semi-decent sponsoring deal. You can forget about discussing the tax difference, it's a waste of time.

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    A summer with duncan learning how to post up wouldnt hurt his game at all. Does he have that dedication???
    He's a finished product, IMO. What you see is what you get.

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    Enlighten me, as I don't live there. I just know my Texas-based coworkers pay enough less in taxes than we do in NYC to pay for their car. I just used BankRate for Oregon:

    For single taxpayers and married couples filing separate returns:

    • 5 percent on the first $3,300 of taxable income.
    • 7 percent on taxable income between $3,301 and $8,250.
    • 9 percent on taxable income between $8,251 and $125,000
    • 9.9 percent on taxable income of $125,001 and above.
    The issue is that every road game is taxed in the home jurisdiction. You play half your games on the road. 3/4 of those have state income tax, although a sw division team will play more away no tax games given the inter divisional schedule.

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    Tax differences won't even offset a semi-decent sponsoring deal. You can forget about discussing the tax difference, it's a waste of time.
    I actually think San Antonio is hot enough to be a negligent loss to sponsorship. Also the spurs low key at ude is a function of Duncan. If LMA wants pimping by God the FO will pimp


    Also in regards to Duncan not playing with Aldridge, I think Tim will be around enough so this won't matter. Player coach, kind of.

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    That 3 year, 43 million dollar extension is going to cost dearly.

    Alridge may be soft but he can put points on the board instead of the team playing 4 on 5 all the time

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    Tax differences won't even offset a semi-decent sponsoring deal. You can forget about discussing the tax difference, it's a waste of time.
    Correct, plus any decent financial advisor and/or cpa will get around quite a bit of the state tax issues. That is not a hard concept.

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    I'm watching him play right now, clanking soft jumpers, and I really do not want... but I guess we can't be picky.
    If fairness you could say the same thing about Gasol too.

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    Well, this is under the premise that he would want to come home with his family and play for a contender, something none of those teams can really offer (Dallas can only offer the home part).
    1. I can't see anyone leaving about 25M dollars on the table for those reasons.

    2. Any promise for a future contract is a major violation of the CBA.

    3. It would require a 3 year deal to establish full Bird Rights, so he'd be leaving well over 30M dollars on the table. I have a hard time seeing any pro athlete giving up that much money.

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    He's a finished product, IMO. What you see is what you get.
    him then. I think he works on it if he truly wants to get over the hump no matter where he plays

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    If fairness you could say the same thing about Gasol too.
    Gasol is a pretty great defender though.

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    If fairness you could say the same thing about Gasol too.
    Not even close. Gasol has a post up game

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    1. I can't see anyone leaving about 25M dollars on the table for those reasons.

    2. Any promise for a future contract is a major violation of the CBA.

    3. It would require a 3 year deal to establish full Bird Rights, so he'd be leaving well over 30M dollars on the table. I have a hard time seeing any pro athlete giving up that much money.
    It will be interesting to see what kind of max deals he'll get. What's clear is he'll be leaving money on the table if he takes any deal that's over two years long too. Due to the current weird cap situation, if there's any odds of pulling something like this off, this is the time.

    Forget about the promise, although it's somewhat implied that if there's no major injury, he's worth a max extension. The Spurs can simply make clear they'll like a long-term relationship with him but can only pay so much this summer. Then it's up to him.

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    0 for 6 in a must win Game 3 including an air ball lol. Dude is a nice player but $20 million???? Nah

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    Correct, plus any decent financial advisor and/or cpa will get around quite a bit of the state tax issues. That is not a hard concept.
    Over the summer, when the whole Lebron stuff was going on, they had a couple of sports cpas do the math, and it was negligible...

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    Correct, plus any decent financial advisor and/or cpa will get around quite a bit of the state tax issues. That is not a hard concept.
    How do you hide salary? You can itemize, you can incur business loss, but the ira is capped.

    Hiding profits is a business thing.Also investment income can be worked with, but straight ,w2 income is hard to avoid

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    It will be interesting to see what kind of max deals he'll get. What's clear is he'll be leaving money on the table if he takes any deal that's over two years long too. Due to the current weird cap situation, if there's any odds of pulling something like this off, this is the time.

    Forget about the promise, although it's somewhat implied that if there's no major injury, he's worth a max extension. The Spurs can simply make clear they'll like a long-term relationship with him but can only pay so much this summer. Then it's up to him.
    For him to get that new TV deal max money from the Spurs as you've described, he'd have to sign a three year deal at a reduced rate. If he really wants that new deal money, it's really not that complicated. He can sign a one year with any team. The cap is going up around 25M dollars from 2015 to 2016. Nearly every team in the league will have at least one max cap space slot that summer. He can then sign a 4 year max deal with any team, no Bird Rights needed.

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    How do you hide salary? You can itemize, you can incur business loss, but the ira is capped.

    Hiding profits is a business thing.Also investment income can be worked with, but straight ,w2 income is hard to avoid
    setup a charity. contribute to it. deduct contributions.

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    For him to get that new TV deal max money from the Spurs as you've described, he'd have to sign a three year deal at a reduced rate. If he really wants that new deal money, it's really not that complicated. He can sign a one year with any team. The cap is going up around 25M dollars from 2015 to 2016. Nearly every team in the league will have at least one max cap space slot that summer. He can then sign a 4 year max deal with any team, no Bird Rights needed.
    Why couldn't he sign a 2 year deal, and simply extend with the Spurs for the max before hitting Free Agency? Wouldn't that allow him to extend for the max and also the maximum years, or am I missing something?

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    Fwiw fair treatment of Parker is absolutely important to other FA looking at the org. We honor his contract. We don't salary dump stars. We don't bury them under young upstart talent without a fair trial.

    Anything less than that would send a red flag up. This is what separates us from a team like sacto. Sacto, the team that can't do with a legit all star big man.

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    I believe you need to play 3 seasons with a team to get the Bird rights.

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    setup a charity. contribute to it. deduct contributions.
    But you can't get that charity $ back without shady like paying salary to yourself or spouse. I watched breaking bad, I know this

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    But you can't get that charity $ back without shady like paying salary to yourself or spouse. I watched breaking bad, I know this
    somebody gotta run the charity, tbh...

    then again, that's pretty amateur... im sure pro cpas have better ways...

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    Why couldn't he sign a 2 year deal, and simply extend with the Spurs for the max before hitting Free Agency? Wouldn't that allow him to extend for the max and also the maximum years, or am I missing something?
    Two problems there:

    1. Only contracts at least 4 years in length can be extended.

    2. The salary in the first year of the extension (his 5th season with the Spurs) would be based on the salary of histhe contract's 4th year, a number that would be substantially less than the max salary for a player with his years of service.

    Like I said, the quickest road to the money is a one year deal this summer.

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