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    Weird I don't feel bad about Parker. I don't hate him either. I'm a dying human being. We all are. That's something to feel bad about. worrying about a game played by rich athletic dudes.
    Come back around. Complete the circle.

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    Everybody was saying the same about Duncan a few years ago... just not quite as mean spirited.
    And Manu after 6, but he had a solid bounce-back year. I still think Tony has some gas left in the tank, but he needs to spend the offseason transforming his game to accommodate his declining athleticism. And the Spurs need to spend the offseason building more of the offense around Kawhi. His usage needs to exponentially increase next year.

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    Yeah, this is the Parker/Manu stuff back with a vengeance. I can't argue with people who say that Parker is awful right now, because he is. But to be so bitter about it, you'd think he slept with their wives/gfs too.
    They either don't have any, or have issues. This is a therapy subs ute for many guys.

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    The "elite" level point guards at some point came to a realization that they were not the big ticket and decided to help make there team better. They became facilitators who could read the floor and get the ball to open shooters and take the ball and make something happen when they have to. Parker is still in that score first mode with declining skills that made him good.
    ? Curry, Irving,

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    This site has really been for the last 24 hours. I know it was a bad loss, but this, it's basketball not war or anything. What do you basketball martyrs do in the off season anyway?

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    Parker is still in that score first mode with declining skills that made him good.
    That's absurd. It's obvious that TP has been working on his outside shot and finding his teammates more. I think the injuries derailed his progress and he has shown a tendency to default to areas where he knows he has been successful, but that seems like a normal thing for an injured athlete to do.

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    The "elite" level point guards at some point came to a realization that they were not the big ticket and decided to help make there team better. They became facilitators who could read the floor and get the ball to open shooters and take the ball and make something happen when they have to. Parker is still in that score first mode with declining skills that made him good.
    Parker's sudden and precipitous decline has obviously taken Pop off guard. Pop's system is designed for Parker to be a top-2 scoring option and to make most of the decisions with the ball. The Spurs really can't afford to completely change the system at this point in the season. Parker played well enough on offense during those last 30 games that Pop had every reason to believe that Parker would continue to be effective on that end.

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    This site has really been for the last 24 hours. I know it was a bad loss, but this, it's basketball not war or anything. What do you basketball martyrs do in the off season anyway?
    I said make a circle, not climb a ladder.

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    ? Curry, Irving,
    Bad comparison. They're still elite and are either driving the team. Both have great players around them too but curry and Irving are going to have multiple assists in a game with at least 20 points a game.

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    The point is, TP has been very effective, even this year up until the hamstring. Why would he need to adjust to account for an unexpected injury? He did add his 3PT shot to the game, so it's not like he's not adjusting at all. You typically need to adjust when you reasonably can't expect to do the same things effectively. This year, before injury, he was still doing those things.

    You can't just adapt on the fly, especially when injured.

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    This site has really been for the last 24 hours. I know it was a bad loss, but this, it's basketball not war or anything. What do you basketball martyrs do in the off season anyway?
    There's always the Log Out button on the top right, tbh...

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    "Injured"

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    The point is, TP has been very effective, even this year up until the hamstring. Why would he need to adjust to account for an unexpected injury? He did add his 3PT shot to the game, so it's not like he's not adjusting at all. You typically need to adjust when you reasonably can't expect to do the same things effectively. This year, before injury, he was still doing those things.

    You can't just adapt on the fly, especially when injured.
    Where are you getting this from? There are stats to back up that he's pretty much sucked all season.

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    Where are you getting this from? There are stats to back up that he's pretty much sucked all season.
    Not really. His off rating for the first 16-20 games was more than respectable. Then the injury hit. Then he really struggled, but closed out the year pretty strong (yes, the compe ion was bad). This playoffs has been a whole other level of bad, but he had spurts when he looked healthier (beginning/end) and the results looked better offensively.

    He was pretty poor on defense this year all the way through though.

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    *Maybe* if it was a lotto pick. But for a mid 1st round pick? Forget about it. Not worth it.

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    I'm fine with giving them our Gerald Wallace for their Gerald Wallace... Sign and trade?

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    good lord.

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    Indiana could work IMO..they desperately need a PG, and Hibbert's contract is arguably even worse than Parker's, although I haven't checked the length..

    Bird isn't really a good GM, either..
    Hibberts has an ETO this off season . They publicly said that they will play him less so they can go small. His contract isn't/wasn't awful compared to the likes of Sanders or McGee. He still has an elite skill in rim protection and on certain nights can look like an all-star

    I've though about a Parker for Hill+Mihammi deal before. Hill has played well this season and Ian is a good backup. They probably aren't doing the deal, with the Spurs at least.

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    Not really. His off rating for the first 16-20 games was more than respectable. Then the injury hit. Then he really struggled, but closed out the year pretty strong (yes, the compe ion was bad). This playoffs has been a whole other level of bad, but he had spurts when he looked healthier (beginning/end) and the results looked better offensively.

    He was pretty poor on defense this year all the way through though.
    The thing is, we're in year 2 of this injury bug. The Spurs tried to give him time off, he took time off in the summer, and here we are. So, I think it's fair to wonder if this is going to be an ongoing issue, and that opens a bunch of other questions: do the Spurs need a better plan B at that position? Do you forfeit going after a max contract to get insurance there? etc...

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    I vote no, unless Cory Joseph can be traded and Kaminsky ends up falling that late. I think the Spurs should use the cap space to make big offers to restricted players like Draymond Green or Reggie Jackson.

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    The thing is, we're in year 2 of this injury bug. The Spurs tried to give him time off, he took time off in the summer, and here we are. So, I think it's fair to wonder if this is going to be an ongoing issue, and that opens a bunch of other questions: do the Spurs need a better plan B at that position? Do you forfeit going after a max contract to get insurance there? etc...
    It's a fair question for sure.

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    The thing is, we're in year 2 of this injury bug. The Spurs tried to give him time off, he took time off in the summer, and here we are. So, I think it's fair to wonder if this is going to be an ongoing issue, and that opens a bunch of other questions: do the Spurs need a better plan B at that position? Do you forfeit going after a max contract to get insurance there? etc...
    That extension is going to come back to haunt them unless they sit him for the first 4 months of the season and then really limit his minutes and that is sad for the amount of money they are paying him. For the type of player he is the potential for hamstring, Achilles, sprains etc are going to be common and we know he just can't recover like he used to. Unless he drastically changes his playing style he's going to be useless when we need him and will be injury prone at the wrong time of the year.

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    Tony is a very old 32 years old (33 in less than a month).. He was drafted when he was 19 and began playing right away. He's made deep playoff runs in most of his years in the NBA. He's got a ton of mileage on his legs. He's a PG who relies on his speed and quickness to get into the lane. His old legs aren't allowing him to do that anymore, at least not consistently. It's obvious he's lost a step, even when healthy. He's starting to become injury prone. This is two straight years he's been dealing with multiple injuries and had to take some time off. These things happen with age. Father time is undefeated.

    It's not really his fault. Usually when this happens to players, they refuse to admit it and try to push the envelope to "prove it." But, I think in this case, Tony thinks we can't win unless he leads us, so he's forcing the issue, trying to do too much, and it's hurting us (he's partially right, he'd need to be our 2nd or 3rd best scorer for us to win imo). People keep ting on Tony for his contract, but that's PATFO's fault for maxing out an old, speed-reliant PG. They were obviously trying to show loyalty, and I get that, but it's just a bad decision, similar to what the Lakers did with Kobe. Emotions have to take a back seat to logic when it comes business.

    Tony might return next season and play much better. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he did, at least for a while. But all in all, I think this is the beginning of a steady decline for Enrique. It happens. I think it'd be in the Spurs best interest if they started thinking about what's best for the franchise this offseason, and weigh all options.

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    Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Chances are, Parker is playing hurt and its affecting his performance. When he's on, he's one of the top guards in the league. The Spurs just need to see how he looks when he's back to 100%. He looked great early in the season and if he can get back to that level, they'll be fine.

    He is no where near his expiration date like Manu. Tony has 3 solid years left.

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    Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Chances are, Parker is playing hurt and its affecting his performance. When he's on, he's one of the top guards in the league. The Spurs just need to see how he looks when he's back to 100%. He looked great early in the season and if he can get back to that level, they'll be fine.
    Which will likely be next season when Spurs get bumped from the playoffs no thanks to his performance. He has 2 go to moves, the first one yields 3 options but only benefits 2 people on the court, Duncan sets a pick and he either attacks his defender to the basket, pops for his jumper or dumps it off to Tim. In between all of this is a whole lot of dribbling and bad court vision while everyone stands around. His other option is dump the ball off to someone and go stand in the corner.

    He's going to be injured, hasn't had a season where he hasn't been hurt in quite a while and it's the same type of injury so law of averages will indicate that these injuries will happen again and it'll take forever for him to heal. TP needs to figure out some stuff in the off season, change his playing style become a better shooter or post people up or try to pass first.

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