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    I watched the feeds. I gave you the stats.

    From your link and applying to anyone that "actually" watched it live
    Exception: Some assumptions that are universally accepted could pass as not being fallacious

    Deflect as you wish.
    We are talking about the mob composition and you are talking about the people that were arrested.

    Conflate the two all you like but I will continue to think you are a moron. No need to argue about it. This is going nowhere.

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    looks to be the typical gameplan of the thin blue line closing ranks manipulating the investigation and leaking any findings that support their cons uent.
    You don't think it's possible Freddie broke his own neck?

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    We are talking about the mob composition and you are talking about the people that were arrested.

    Conflate the two all you like but I will continue to think you are a moron. No need to argue about it. This is going nowhere.
    You have posted a 30 second video, I watched hours of live feeds and gave you those arrested in said riot, which would be a pretty accurate representation of those rioting, unless you have some theory to dispute the demographics. This is going nowhere you are correct in that. No point in arguing with a person who is going off a YouTube clip.

    Hey face, New York is getting chippy right now as we speak, find your lazy ass a live stream so we can actually discuss tomorrow's demographics.


    Ps-great job ignoring me

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    We have to learn to turn our black communities into an asset.....including the thugs...that's what strong nations do....

    Racism, or segregating people because of perceived stereotypes, will only tear our nation apart...
    i think part of the problem is there's a lot of self-segregation. groups of people turning it into "us" vs "them"

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    i agree for the most part but a lot of the segregation falls squarely on their own shoulders. Many of them do fit the stereotype and often they are the loudest and have the most influence on the younger generation.
    Eh, most people like to be with people who are like them...just happens that people who share your culture also happen to be the most like us...plus there are economic barriers....look at San Antonio....we may all get along in SA despite the covert and, at times, blatant racism....but the city is still very segregated in cultural communities....Even in the far reaches of northern SA, the most affluent for those of you not in the know... there are clusters of close nit cultural communities...

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    BALTIMORE — A 12-year-old boy swept up glass in front of his family’s cornerstore early Tuesday morning. Among the detritus that littered the sidewalk were a few Butterfingers, pieces of gum, and a single roll of pennies. That seems to be the value of what’s left in this store run by a family of Chinese immigrants after the looting.

    “They just stole everything,” the boy said.

    The family had been in New York, celebrating the wedding of a family member. They returned to a Baltimore that in places is unrecognizable thanks to the chaos following Freddie Gray’s funeral. They weren’t the only ones.

    The city partly resembled the war zone Charlie Brauning was returning home from. The soldier was one of two in Army fatigues on a flight from Chicago to Charm City, heading back to Baltimore from a five-month deployment to Afghanistan. Before shutting off the lights and taking to the air, the pilot paused for a brief moment of gra ude.

    “At this time I’d like to thank all veterans for their service to our country,” he said before the cabin applauded.

    “It’s a shame because it starts out peaceful and then….” Brauning said, trailing off.

    “It’s pretty hostile still,” he said, unclear if he was speaking about Baltimore or Kandahar. “Before winter they’d attack the base three or four times a day, mostly small-arms fire. But it’s always been like that.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-pennies.html

    "Just a bunch of high schoolers breaking windows."

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    i love how we see the exact same being flung by both sides of the spectrum on these racial issues

    scenario A: white people do something wrong


    lets say white guy kills black guy. the pro-white side will always deflect to "but what about black on black violence"

    scenario B: black people do something wrong


    lets take the most recent riots, which are predominantly black. the pro-black side starts deflecting to "lets talk about white riots"

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    BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police do ent obtained by The Washington Post.

    The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal par ion and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the do ent under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.

    The do ent, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.

    Gray was found unconscious in the wagon when it arrived at a police station on April 12. The 25-year-old had suffered a spinal injury and died a week later, touching off waves of protests across Baltimore, capped by a riot Monday in which hundreds of angry residents torched buildings, looted stores and pelted police officers with rocks.

    Police have said they do not know whether Gray was injured during the arrest or during his 30-minute ride in the van. Local police and the U.S. Justice Department both have launched investigations of Gray’s death.
    So are you thinking that the other transport was buckled during a wild ride in the van while Freddy was unbuckled and he's been paid off to say the wild ride didn't happen? That'd have to be a stupid er to lie for the cops and take a payoff when he could easily lawyer up and bring an entire department down. I wasn't even aware there was another transport un-victim.

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    i think part of the problem is there's a lot of self-segregation. groups of people turning it into "us" vs "them"
    If by US you mean the working (and non working) poor and middle class versus everyone else....your right....this isn't about race and thugs and s....this is about economics, opportunity, democracy and liberty...It' pretty clear which side of the US equation you currently fall on.... what you should be asking your self, if you really love your country, is why?

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    So are you thinking that the other transport was buckled during a wild ride in the van while Freddy was unbuckled and he's been paid off to say the wild ride didn't happen? That'd have to be a stupid er to lie for the cops and take a payoff when he could easily lawyer up and bring an entire department down. I wasn't even aware there was another transport un-victim.
    You're dumb and I don't think it worthwhile to speculate on facts in the case with you. So thanks but pass.

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    Eh, most people like to be with people who are like them...just happens that people who share your culture also happen to be the most like us...plus there are economic barriers....look at San Antonio....we may all get along in SA despite the covert and, at times, blatant racism....but the city is still very segregated in cultural communities....Even in the far reaches of northern SA, the most affluent for those of you not in the know... there are clusters of close nit cultural communities...
    Sure, but the "stereotypical" culture some of them share is not positive and is basically forced on those who don't fit it, and those who resist it are degraded.

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    You're dumb and I don't think it worthwhile to speculate on facts in the case with you. So thanks but pass.
    All we are doing is speculating don't be a .

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    All we are doing is speculating don't be a .
    Speak for yourself.

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    If by US you mean the working (and non working) poor and middle class versus everyone else....your right....this isn't about race and thugs and s....this is about economics, opportunity, democracy and liberty...It' pretty clear which side of the US equation you currently fall on.... what you should be asking your self, if you really love your country, is why?
    Poor whites have been killed unjustifiably by police, I must have missed the riots.

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    If by US you mean the working (and non working) poor and middle class versus everyone else....your right....this isn't about race and thugs and s....this is about economics, opportunity, democracy and liberty...It' pretty clear which side of the US equation you currently fall on.... what you should be asking your self, if you really love your country, is why?
    what side am i on? the educated side. i'm busting my ass for a graduate degree. at the moment i earn it, i'll be a 25 year old with over 6 figures of debt that i'm going to have to climb out of. anybody from any economic background can pursue an education. public schools are free, and virtually everybody is automatically qualified for a stafford loan that can get you through your entire college education.

    my family moved to this country in the 70's with literally a few hundred dollars in their pockets and limited english. they found a way to make a life for themselves. they could have sat around and whined about difficulty too

    what side are you on, Nbadan
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    Do you think the other transport was paid off and is lying for the police? He was in there and either he is or is not lying. Speak up .

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    So dude broke his own spine?

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    BALTIMORE — A 12-year-old boy swept up glass in front of his family’s cornerstore early Tuesday morning. Among the detritus that littered the sidewalk were a few Butterfingers, pieces of gum, and a single roll of pennies. That seems to be the value of what’s left in this store run by a family of Chinese immigrants after the looting.

    “They just stole everything,” the boy said.

    The family had been in New York, celebrating the wedding of a family member. They returned to a Baltimore that in places is unrecognizable thanks to the chaos following Freddie Gray’s funeral. They weren’t the only ones.

    The city partly resembled the war zone Charlie Brauning was returning home from. The soldier was one of two in Army fatigues on a flight from Chicago to Charm City, heading back to Baltimore from a five-month deployment to Afghanistan. Before shutting off the lights and taking to the air, the pilot paused for a brief moment of gra ude.

    “At this time I’d like to thank all veterans for their service to our country,” he said before the cabin applauded.

    “It’s a shame because it starts out peaceful and then….” Brauning said, trailing off.

    “It’s pretty hostile still,” he said, unclear if he was speaking about Baltimore or Kandahar. “Before winter they’d attack the base three or four times a day, mostly small-arms fire. But it’s always been like that.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-pennies.html

    "Just a bunch of high schoolers breaking windows."
    In before: The boy grew up pressured into racism

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    Do you think the other transport was paid off and is lying for the police? He was in there and either he is or is not lying. Speak up .
    More begging the question.

    So sad.

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    More questions I don't have an answer to.

    So sad.
    FIFY

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    More begging the question.

    So sad.
    What is really sad is watching you cowardly dodge a straight forward question. I'll go first since you have obviously have no conviction in you. I think the transport was paid off and is making up the story. Grow some balls , you are anonymous here and no one gives a what you think. You aren't changing the world on spurstalk post by post.


    Sidenote: apparently we don't have to refer to certain people as teens, youths, or thugs. The word N word is now acceptable.



    nice job congressman.

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    What is really sad is watching you cowardly dodge a straight forward question. I'll go first since you have obviously have no conviction in you. I think the transport was paid off and is making up the story. Grow some balls , you are anonymous here and no one gives a what you think. You aren't changing the world on spurstalk post by post.


    Sidenote: apparently we don't have to refer to certain people as teens, youths, or thugs. The word N word is now acceptable.



    nice job congressman.
    You got me me. I'm scared. Terrified of your dumb ass.

    The 'your anonymous no one cares what you think' whine works both ways. That in fact was my point. I think your dumb, you don't make any difference, and I am not going to play along with your fallacy. Keep trying to pin an emotional narrative but you seem frantic frankly. Dance, monkey.

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    now you want me to answer to you?

    just ramp up the compensatory megalomania. that is funny and sad at the same time.

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    You got me me. I'm scared. Terrified of your dumb ass.

    The 'your anonymous no one cares what you think' whine works both ways. That in fact was my point. I think your dumb, you don't make any difference, and I am not going to play along with your fallacy. Keep trying to pin an emotional narrative but you seem frantic frankly. Dance, monkey.
    What's my fallacy? Speaking of dancing....oh wait forgot, you ignore me.

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    So dude broke his own spine?
    It's possible.


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