Police Misconduct and ‘Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights’ Laws

[Clipper Nation]

So?

The police are not required to report to the CDC either. I never made the claim that they were the highest as politifact argued. Point is that the statistics are unreliable. What I should have done is just posted the sophist angle instead of trying to prove my point.

So if the statistics are all unreliable, then there's zero proof for the left's claims that the police go out of their way to kill minorities in custody. I guess that means this useless debate's over then, and we can all get on with our lives.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So if the statistics are all unreliable, then there's zero proof for the left's claims that the police go out of their way to kill minorities in custody. I guess that means this useless debate's over then, and we can all get on with our lives.

Too bad there are repeated police related deaths that make the news and social media.

I'm just saying that comparing stats from 40 years ago to today's and pretending that is apples to apples is worthless. It should be noted that any move to actually require law enforcement to report to a federal agency is fiercely opposed by police unions. Same groups resist calls to repeal and amend LEOBR.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Begging the Question, No True Scotsman, Appeal to Spite, Ad Hoc, Poisoning the Well, Bandwagon! There, I win the argument!

Are you really whining about logic? I get that you prefer stupid wishful thinking but gmb.

[Clipper Nation]

Too bad there are repeated police related deaths that make the news and social media.

Surely you're smart enough to know that they are a tiny fraction of a percentage point of arrests in this country, and that the primary reason those particular deaths make the news is that they lend themselves to sensationalist narratives, easy content to fill the 24-hour news cycle, and ratings/pageviews.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Surely you're smart enough to know that they are a tiny fraction of a percentage point of arrests in this country, and that the primary reason those particular deaths make the news is that they lend themselves to sensationalist narratives, easy content to fill the 24-hour news cycle, and ratings/pageviews.

And of course I should trade in my sensational narrative describing specific laws and violations of equal protection and instead accept your narrative of " it, it's the news?"

I know it cannot be in the interests of someone as callous, antisocial, and divisive as you to have a police force that has extra rights over yourself. You get entirely to caught up in the dumbed down thinking that is race.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And of course I should trade in my sensational narrative describing specific laws and violations of equal protection and instead accept your narrative of " it, it's the news?"

I know it cannot be in the interests of someone as callous, antisocial, and divisive as you to have a police force that has extra rights over yourself. You get entirely to caught up in the dumbed down thinking that is race.

Antisocial

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Antisocial

Yeah you take lack of empathy and go down the spectrum to deriving pleasure from upsetting people. When you are literally taking the golden rule and turning it on it's head, you are participating in antisocial behavior. The three words I used are pretty synonymous.

You don't do much introspection.

[boutons_deux]

Nope. Policing's roots in this country date all the way back to the "night watch" and "day watch" systems and privatized police forces in the early colonies. Nice try, though.

the "watch" stuff was informal, and not really a crime fighting effort, was mostly ineffective, and volunteer. Municipal, full-time, professional urban police didn't arrive until the 19th century

[SupremeGuy]

THERM KILLING OUR MINORITIES!!!!!!!!! herg am dern

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.cato.org/blog/police-misc...rs-bill-rights

Unlike a member of the public, the officer gets a “cooling off” period before he has to respond to any questions. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is privy to the names of his complainants and their testimony against him before he is ever interrogated. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is to be interrogated “at a reasonable hour,” with a union member present. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can only be questioned by one person during his interrogation. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can be interrogated only “for reasonable periods,” which “shall be timed to allow for such personal necessities and rest periods as are reasonably necessary.” Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation cannot be “threatened with disciplinary action” at any point during his interrogation. If he is threatened with punishment, whatever he says following the threat cannot be used against him.

What happens after the interrogation again varies from state to state. But under nearly every law enforcement bill of rights, the following additional privileges are granted to officers: Their departments cannot publicly acknowledge that the officer is under investigation; if the officer is cleared of wrongdoing or the charges are dropped, the department may not publicly acknowledge that the investigation ever took place, or reveal the nature of the complaint. The officer cannot be questioned or investigated by “non-government agents,” which means no civilian review boards. If the officer is suspended as a result of the investigation, he must continue to receive full pay and benefits until his case is resolved. In most states, the charging department must subsidize the accused officer’s legal defense.

A violation of any of the above rights can result in dismissal—not of the officer, but of the charges against him.