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No clue, wasn't there.
Do you believe Freddie Gray broke his own spine?
No clue, wasn't there.
How would he go about breaking his own back in a police van and not an open basketball court?
depends. was his seat belt fastened?
Was there a wreck the van was involved in?
I heard no mention of that.
Same way, headbutt an immovable object. Probably a thousand other ways. One of my first jobs out of high school was as a physical therapy aide and the guy that I most remember was a paraplegic who broke his neck picking up a 5 gallon bucket of water. Imagine spending the rest of your life paralyzed from picking up a bucket of water. Crazy happens. I don't think it would be all that hard to cause serious injury to yourself if your throwing you body around trying to injure yourself.
maybe they took a hard left he wasn't prepared for, banged his head/neck somewhere
not actually suggesting that's the cause... just playing along with a hypothetical. at this point its speculation, although the most reasonable guess would be foul play by the police
Seems unlikely.
I just said it was possible. Seems su ious to me just because the only one saying it is a prisoner. Also it's odd that there isn't any info from the autopsy. Spinal fractures are probably the most studied trauma and I would think the type of fracture would give some clue as to how his neck was broken.
Police do ents say Freddie Gray ‘was intentionally trying to injure himself'
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/poli...e+Raw+Story%29
And police do ents are ALWAYS infallibly the truth.
Freddie broke his own spine and collapsed his own trachea. It was not a cop's murderous choke hold, nor a cops boot kick into his spine while he was on the ground, nor anything the cops did.
yeah, Right Said Fred
Gotta love how the eyewitness who brought up how Gray was slamming himself into the sides can't be trusted because he's a criminal, but Gray is assumed to be a perfect angel who would never try to injure himself to get taken to the hospital instead of jail and/or frame the cops, even though he was a criminal.
the arrested "witness" couldn't see in the section of the van where Gray was.
who is assuming that Gray was a perfect angel? what in Gray's past justified his being executed by the cops?
It seems all you rightwingnuts in defending the cops buy the cops' self-defense that a brutalized or dead person had a record, and that any person, esp unarmed, arrested by the cops deserves to be brutalized or executed because the person has some kind of non-capital offense record.
that's what Baltimore PD wants us to think. Police mentioning the lack of a seat belt during the ride suggests an accident, perhaps.
"another prisoner" says Gray roughed himself up.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...18e_story.html
The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal par ion and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the do ent under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.
The do ent, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.
beg pardon, how do you happen to know this?
Apparently, some of the rioters specifically targeted Asian-owned businesses:
http://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403231...ian-owned-busi
SMH... racism in action.
Larry Wilmore rips Fox and CNN for ‘thug’ debate: ‘Here’s an N-word’ for you — ‘news’
Larry Wilmore ripped cable news debates questioning whether the word “thug” is used in place of a notorious racial slur.The talk show host discussed media coverage of the ongoing unrest in Baltimore, and he said news commentators had seemed to “fall in love” with using the word “thug” to describe demonstrators.
Wilmore aired a video montage of the word’s copious use during coverage of the Baltimore riots – including its use by the president.
“Et tu, Obama?” Wilmore said. “You know who wouldn’t have said that? ‘Choom Gang’ Barack.”
He agreed with Baltimore Councilman Carl Stokes, who told CNN’s Erin Burnett that commentators might as well just call the rioters “n****rs.”
“The last time a black guy shut down a white lady on national TV like that, Kanye had to go into hiding for a year,” Wilmore said.
He showed video footage of cable news pundits debating whether the word had become an acceptable racial slur – as Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Shermanpointed out more than a year ago.
“Hey, cable, here’s an N-word you should familiarize yourself with – news,” Wilmore said.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/larr...e+Raw+Story%29
If the shoe fits?
Is Wilmore bolstering using thug word? He presents no reason not to.
Please tell me this dumb Wilmore did not just invoke Kayne Wests rude grabbing of the award trophy from Taylor Swift.“The last time a black guy shut down a white lady on national TV like that, Kanye had to go into hiding for a year,” Wilmore said.
Smh
you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...ry.html#page=1Relatives of Dondi Johnson Sr., who was left a paraplegic after a 2005 police van ride, won a $7.4 million verdict against police officers. A year earlier, Jeffrey Alston was awarded $39 million by a jury after he became paralyzed from the neck down as the result of a van ride. Others have also received payouts after filing lawsuits.
For some, such injuries have been inflicted by what is known as a "rough ride" — an "unsanctioned technique" in which police vans are driven to cause "injury or pain" to unbuckled, handcuffed detainees, former city police officer Charles J. Key testified as an expert five years ago in a lawsuit over Johnson's subsequent death.
As daily protests continue in the streets of Baltimore, authorities are trying to determine how Gray was injured, and their focus is on the 30-minute van ride that followed his arrest. "It's clear what happened, happened inside the van," Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said Monday at a news conference.
Forwarding to my Asian friends
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2...more-s-anguish...In these drug-saturated neighborhoods, they weren’t policing their post anymore, they weren’t policing real estate that they were protecting from crime. They weren’t nurturing informants, or learning how to properly investigate anything. There’s a real skill set to good police work. But no, they were just dragging the sidewalks, hunting stats, and these inner-city neighborhoods — which were indeed drug-saturated because that's the only industry left — become just hunting grounds. They weren’t protecting anything. They weren’t serving anyone. They were collecting bodies, treating corner folk and citizens alike as an Israeli patrol would treat the West Bank, or as the Afrikaners would have treated Soweto back in the day. They’re an army of occupation. And once it’s that, then everybody’s the enemy. The police aren’t looking to make friends, or informants, or learning how to write clean warrants or how to testify in court without perjuring themselves unnecessarily. There's no incentive to get better as investigators, as cops. There’s no reason to solve crime.
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Ahhh yes. The 'they do it too' defense. Welcome to kindergarten, everyone.
Defense? The Globe is united against blacks. You're playing the role of Defense
It's in the article. It's why I posted the whole thing and the local race baiters got asshurt about it.
ah thanks. I notice 101 of those detained were released without charges.
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