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    If we are now judging a thread's success I've clearly got you beat in that category. 10 poll options 2 responsesSo what's up with you bringing up a le change under my username? What made it so significant you brought it up?
    what is sad is you measure your success based on your semen shield.

    I just said that this thread was a nice thread.

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    It's a very successful thread, tbh. Lots of narratives being knocked down, and the lib s are scrambling and deflecting.

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    "where are the riots?"

    false equivalence from your ridiculously faulty "thinking"

    who's going to riot over a criminal killing somebody?

    riots occur when black people, innocent, unarmed, 1000s of them, are harassed, brutalized, injured, paralyzed, murdered by the ing sadistic police, for decades.



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    Rumsfeld: Looting Is Transition To Freedom


    [F]reedom's untidy. And free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things. They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. And that's what's going to happen here," Rumsfeld said.

    Furthermore:

    "While no one condones looting, on the other hand, one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression and people who have had members of their family killed by that regime, for them to be taking their feelings out on that regime," he said.

    "And I don't think there's anyone in any of those pictures ... (who wouldn't) accept it as part of the price of getting from a repressed regime to freedom."

    Donald Rumsfeld, in his own words, twelve years ago (April 11, 2003).

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/30/1381387/-Rumsfeld-Looting-Is-Transition-To-Freedom?detail=email

    Rummy's invaders/destroyers didn't allow looting of the Iraqi Ministry of Oil, but let his troops and Iraqi loots cultural buildings, museums, etc.



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    announcement: Gray's death was homicide

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    It's a very successful thread, tbh. Lots of narratives being knocked down, and the lib s are scrambling and deflecting.
    your turn

    Six Baltimore police officers will face criminal charges, including second-degree murder and manslaughter, in the death of a black man who was arrested and suffered a fatal neck injury while riding in a moving police van, the city's chief prosecutor said on Friday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NL1GO20150501

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    announcement: Gray's death was homicide
    great. Just setting up for the big riot when all are found not guilty.

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    great. Just setting up for the big riot when all are found not guilty.
    there might a conviction, depends on whether the prosecutor prosecutes the victim instead of the cops, as the compromised prosecutor did in Ferguson.

    but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.

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    what kind of world is this where 6 "earth cleansers" are charged with a crime?

    the bible says we have domain over all the animals.

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    Can't wait for the predictable racial / partisan divide during the trial. I'm sure everyone will have a completely open mind about this and prioritize justice and due process.

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    there might a conviction, depends on whether the prosecutor prosecutes the victim instead of the cops, as the compromised prosecutor did in Ferguson.

    but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.
    I don't think it matters how hard the prosecutor goes as the cops. If they can definitively match his injury to the inside of the van, I don't see how they'll get 12 jurors to convict. Maybe get a couple on negligence for not properly securing him or something. But nothing that anyone will go to jail over.

    Prosecutor is going to have to make it look like he went all out though.

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    The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.

    Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.

    http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimo...police-family/
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    If they are just trying to calm the populous by charging the officers just wait for the storm they have now created if the cops are not found guilty and convicted. They better hope that there is enough evidence to support a conviction or else scratch another major city off our list.

    When it all clears I do see that they might possibly be charged with negligence but not for murder.

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    but yes, if all exonerated, more "freedom of assembly" exercised for sure.
    "Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

    Nice try, but I'm pretty sure that riots aren't "inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict."

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    The Baltimore prosecutor who brought charges against six cops in the death of Freddie Gray has close ties to the family’s lawyer — who contributed $4,000 to her campaign and served on her transition team.

    Veteran attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray’s family, has been a mentor to 35-year-old State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby, prompting critics to say the deck was stacked against the cops.

    http://nypost.com/2015/05/01/baltimo...police-family/

    So according to the Murdock Post, Mosby has "close ties" with Murphy because he contributed to her campaign and because a political opponent of hers says she does.

    Pretty bulletproof story, if you ask me.

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    "Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

    Nice try, but I'm pretty sure that riots aren't "inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict."
    The Great Boutons don't try, he slaps. the right to peaceable assembly is severely cir scribed by city/police permits to suppress, criminalize dissent. The cops have been seen very often to provoke peaceable crowds, eg OWS, with tasers, "walk by" eye spray, tear gas bombs. In Baltimore, the police corralled kids trying to get on buses and to get home. Kids got pissed, but were provoked.
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    the right to peaceable assembly is severely cir scribed by city/police permits to suppress, criminalize dissent.
    The permit system was introduced as a result of violent nativist riots in San Francisco, New Orleans, Philadelphia and New York in the late 1800s. "Dissent" is not targeting Chinese immigrants (San Francisco), African-Americans (New Orleans and New York), Irish immigrants and Roman Catholics (Philadelphia) because of their race/ethnicity/religion, and nativist pogroms certainly don't qualify as the type of "peaceable" assembly that the First Amendment protects. Ironically, the Baltimore riots - in which gangs specifically targeted Asian- and Arab-owned businesses - would fit in perfectly with those 1800s riots.

    Learn your history before you try to " -slap" someone who's more intelligent than you, shill.

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    Can't wait for the predictable racial / partisan divide during the trial. I'm sure everyone will have a completely open mind about this and prioritize justice and due process.
    Something was y in the van ride, but charging all six was a bad move.

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    If they are just trying to calm the populous by charging the officers just wait for the storm they have now created if the cops are not found guilty and convicted. They better hope that there is enough evidence to support a conviction or else scratch another major city off our list.

    When it all clears I do see that they might possibly be charged with negligence but not for murder.
    Unless they can get one of the officers to flip and say "X threw him head first into the box and slammed his head into the bolt/wall" they are gonna have a hard time making second degree murder. The are all vulnerable to both civil and criminal charges for failing to get medical aid when the prisoner specifically asked for it and obviously needed it.

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    Spurs Talk Legal Eagles soar into action.

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    Spurs Talk Legal Eagles soar into action.
    Nice contribution to the thread. What are thoughts on the situation?

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    3 black cops, 3 white cops.

    this is delicious

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    3 black cops, 3 white cops.

    this is delicious

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