Truth is you are player fans. You're older versions of Seventeen magazine readers, fawning over dudes. I am a fan of the game, I said several games back that the Spurs have no business progressing after they lost to New Orleans in a crucial RS game. It's bad for the game when ty teams progress. We seem to have no problem recognizing that in the East, but when your team is one of them, we seem to overlook that as if it's an anomaly. It's not.
Regardless, you don't see me saying "I don't want the Spurs to have to play a back to back" or "they need to blow it up and start over" because it's a game, a team sport. It's not about this or that celebrity and the nationalism here is nauseating.
Is it impossible to be a fan of both the team and two of it's GOAT players? If you appreciate the team, which going by your 40k and my 13k posts on a Spurs message board we both do, then I don't see why it's unusual to also appreciate the players most responsible for turning that same team into a model of excellence.
LOL you are ridiculous - your lover, TP played like and he's just 32 years old. GET OVER IT YOU ER - MANU > TP .... let the hate begin....
Manu said he was thinking about his family and losing interest in the game lately, have you ever read those article translations made by Elnono?
I guess bikers drooling over harleys are teenage girls, or soldiers over some heavy machinery too, you are trying to play it cool when you were defending Porker 2 years ago on every thread.
Even considering Petrovic over Manu as the best international player.
Who said this?
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Parker was trying to contribute. He did look lethargic on offense, and refused to probe the defense like he normally does. I even saw Tim point him in a couple of directions once or twice. Still, Tony is not 100%. Whatever the reason may be, it's got nothing to do with sending messages. These guys have been together forever, they send their messages in Pop's office or in the gym. No reason to get out on the floor and sand bag it.
A guy plays like Parker for as many seasons as he has and because he has two or three off nights, his dedication and integrity is dragged into question?
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Here is another one questioning FKLA
'03-closed out the WCF w/o him, won the Finals with Speedy on the floor
'04-choked vs LA after Game 2
'05-bullied by Chauncey
'06-3rd option
'07-exploited an easy mismatchg
'08-'10-meaningless
'11-young Mike Conley Jr
'12-choked after Game 2 vs OKC
'13-his one truly elite year
'14-closed out WCSF and WCF w/o him, won the Finals by in his own words 'trusting his teammates'
Your problem is that there's no honesty in your assessment. You discredit good performances as "easy matchups" and when he has a poor performance it's "choked".
You have confirmation bias, just like a ton of other half asses here who think they know something about basketball. You are penny wise, pound foolish.
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The truth is somewhere in the middle. Russ has a green light to play iso ball. Tony takes liberties with his green light sometimes and forces things with the apparent notion that, unless he gets going, the team is doomed. Russ might have a green light, but he's still the point guard and has decisions to make. He just always makes the selfish one. Tony has moments but he also plays within the offense most of the time.
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Cherry pick all you want, but Tony Parker is the main reason the Spurs finished the season with home court advantage.
Putting Thabo on Parker was an adjustment. Parker was hurting them.
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Originally Posted by Goran Dragic As a Suns fan, I have all the respect in the world for Duncan and Manu. They both have been gamers who stepped up when it mattered their entire career. Parker has ridden their coattails and gotten unworthy credit his entire career.
This is biased and inaccurate. Tony has carried the team this year. They have ridden his coattails as of late.
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Lol fan of the game, just come out the closet.
If you're more concerned that a player is relegated to 10m a game than about his willingness to accept the role to help the team, you're not a fan of both.
Bikers ride bikes, soldiers ride heavy machinery. Do you want to ride Manu?
What does this have to do with the OP? What's your point? Parker is done, he's been for over two years.Who said this?
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Parker was trying to contribute. He did look lethargic on offense, and refused to probe the defense like he normally does. I even saw Tim point him in a couple of directions once or twice. Still, Tony is not 100%. Whatever the reason may be, it's got nothing to do with sending messages. These guys have been together forever, they send their messages in Pop's office or in the gym. No reason to get out on the floor and sand bag it.
A guy plays like Parker for as many seasons as he has and because he has two or three off nights, his dedication and integrity is dragged into question?
What does any of that have to do with Manu retiring? The topic was about Parker, the response was about Parker. I'm as hard on Tony as I am on anyone. You can find similar responses about Manu and anyone else.-------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is another one questioning FKLA
'03-closed out the WCF w/o him, won the Finals with Speedy on the floor
'04-choked vs LA after Game 2
'05-bullied by Chauncey
'06-3rd option
'07-exploited an easy mismatchg
'08-'10-meaningless
'11-young Mike Conley Jr
'12-choked after Game 2 vs OKC
'13-his one truly elite year
'14-closed out WCSF and WCF w/o him, won the Finals by in his own words 'trusting his teammates'
Your problem is that there's no honesty in your assessment. You discredit good performances as "easy matchups" and when he has a poor performance it's "choked".
You have confirmation bias, just like a ton of other half asses here who think they know something about basketball. You are penny wise, pound foolish.
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The truth is somewhere in the middle. Russ has a green light to play iso ball. Tony takes liberties with his green light sometimes and forces things with the apparent notion that, unless he gets going, the team is doomed. Russ might have a green light, but he's still the point guard and has decisions to make. He just always makes the selfish one. Tony has moments but he also plays within the offense most of the time.
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Cherry pick all you want, but Tony Parker is the main reason the Spurs finished the season with home court advantage.
Putting Thabo on Parker was an adjustment. Parker was hurting them.
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Originally Posted by Goran Dragic As a Suns fan, I have all the respect in the world for Duncan and Manu. They both have been gamers who stepped up when it mattered their entire career. Parker has ridden their coattails and gotten unworthy credit his entire career.
This is biased and inaccurate. Tony has carried the team this year. They have ridden his coattails as of late.
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Lol fan of the game, just come out the closet.
Since you didn't put any dates on those quotes, they are basically meaningless. If you're trying to say I am a Parker fan instead of a fan of the game, you're wrong. I can show you a thread where I made it clear that I am a fan of the game. I call it like I see it, and I see Tony is done (made a thread saying as much).
You've got a hard row to hoe if you want to pigeon hole me as a player fan, but good luck.
No, I wanna ride you in my bike and stick my heavy machinery into your ugly ass.
He´s been , oh really? thats not what you have been jibber jabbering for the last 5 years.
No, I wont some stuff is from 4, 5 years ago and any search could confirm you did it, thats a fact so you are in fact a re , OH LOOK HE DIDNT PUT THE DATE ON! LOOK EVERYONE!!!!
Dont come here with that lame ass excuse you are a team fan when you have been ¨RIDING THE PORK ALL YOUR LIFE¨ emo Crapcom clown.
I hope Manu retires, and that's coming from a big fan of his. I just don't want to see him play one more year only to not be able to be effective on either end both for his and the team's sake.
Manu's heart will always be passionate and compe ive, no matter how bad Manu has played "ala Turnobli" I don't think anyone can ever question his heart, but his body just can no longer do what his heart wants or desires to do anymore. Im personally Manu's age right now and I can honestly feel the drop off happening and thats with not having put myself through all what Manu has had to do in his career.
Its going to be a very long time until we see another compe or like Manu on the Spurs let alone in the NBA.
How did roles and salary get brought into the conversation? All I said is it will be sad to see two mainstays of this franchise's golden era retire.
Realistically, looking at Fatso' game for the next 3 seasons, it's probably difficult to justify all the pain, trips, etc... then again, this is probably his last true chance to snag a million dollar payday, tbh...
I hope he comes back for vet's min or LLE. I don't think the after ASG will work - he takes too long to get into rhythm and the team will have gelled playing without him. I'd like to see a young (twenties), athletic wing - whose shot Chip can remake.
But he could be making almost a million by doing broadcasts and stuff like that for ESPN latinoamerica like Eduardo Najera does and there is no pain, not so many trips and no pork, just a healthy diet.
I thought Najera has been the coach of Texas Legends (NBDL) for like 4 years now...
He is but still does coverage, he was last year with some woman covering the finals for ESPN for example.
Manu wont be a coach and has plenty of time to be there with Martinez and Morales (Latino ESPN).
I think what got him thinking was when he sat out at the end of some of these games this series when it was close
Manu thinks he can play another year but I'd go out now if I was him. The body just isn't keeping up with his basketball mind anymore.
I'm going to miss him in all the HEB commercials if he leaves. Question is who'll replace him? Matt Bonner?
Manu, Parker and Duncan need the money (ha ha) and will come back knowing Pop will use them because the team paid so much for them. If the owner saw him not use them he would ask why he is paying them millions of dollars. Hopefully the break will get them a chance to be healthy as well as fired up.
on the other hand if the Warriors win the championship they may realise its a younger man's game and what good is an extra mIllion dollars or two if you are too physically burnt out to enjoy it!!!
I think he comes back but not to play a full season. Probably on the Vet min and ride the pine and even not even travel with the team on a few road trips. Manu, Tim and Parker are two games away from breaking the trio win mark. I am sure that is a mark they want to obtain. It would be almost as good as winning a championship for next season.
I knew it. Mike is gay.
If Manu comes back he will ride the bench with limited min at the MLE
During the final Spurs Insider episode on Monday, Bill Land interviewed Mike Monroe of the SAEN and he briefly discussed both Manu and Tim's futures. Video of the full interview below...
Also, for anyone interested that entire Spurs Insider episode can be watched here.
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