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    mad when presented with facts
    what part of with kawhi guarding him did you not understand?

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    Conveniently forget the part when KL could have won the game for the spurs then missed his FTS... is there a picture for that?


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    Your defensive and offensive numbers take a huge hit when this guy is your starting PG.


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    I wish kawhi got the ball when Jamal Crawford was on him in The 4th. It sucks Enrique had other plans.* Dribble dribble dribble dribble 20ft jumper clank*

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    And I think he is the leader in his own way - leading the spurs to first round exits.
    That's your belief. Enjoy rooting for him to fail. Just keep thinking of all those "I told you so" posts you can make.

    Don't be mad because some of us believe otherwise.

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    I wish kawhi got the ball when Jamal Crawford was on him in The 4th. It sucks Enrique had other plans.* Dribble dribble dribble dribble 20ft jumper clank*



    .... FkLA

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    ON/OFF COURT IMPACT
    Virtually everyone is aware of the on/off impact that Kawhi Leonard has had this year with the Spurs. When Kawhi's on the court, they've played excellent ball. When he's not, they've been... shaky, to say the least. Fewer are aware of the fact that Tony Parker's on-court presence has been essentially the opposite. With Parker on the court, San Antonio has been outscored by one point. Their defense has been atrocious and their offense has been below par. With Parker off, they've been absolutely excellent, outscoring opponents by 7.6 points. Here are some simple numbers on San Antonio's team performance with Tony Parker on and off the court from the current season:

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    Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor.


    http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/31/need-talk-tony-parker/

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    Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor.


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    I guess I dont understand the point here. I was inquiring about KL and him being outplayed by Tim. Why are you posting last year's stats and throwing Parker in here? I dont want Tony either.

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    This thread turned out exactly like I thought....

    Same 4 player fans arguing with each other

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    Parker's erratic play has been a big reason for San Antonio's regression on offense this season. The Spurs' offensive rating sits at just 103.6 this season, which is a pedestrian 12th in the league, per NBA.com.

    The picture gets even uglier for Parker when you look at how San Antonio has performed with him on the floor. The Spurs have an offensive rating of just 101.6 in Parker's 1,213 minutes this season, the lowest of any regular rotation player, per NBA.com. San Antonio's net rating is a poor negative-2.5 with Parker on the floor, compared to 8.2 with him on the bench, a stunning difference.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/2/24/8101513/tony-parker-struggling-stats-synergy-sports-spurs

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    Your defensive and offensive numbers take a huge hit when this guy is your starting PG.


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    This thread turned out exactly like I thought....

    Same 4 player fans arguing with each other

    Is this not a Kawhi thread? Player fans need to tAke the parker talk else where

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    what part of with kawhi guarding him did you not understand?
    do you have lebron's FG% with kawhi on/off him?

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    This thread turned out exactly like I thought....

    Same 4 player fans arguing with each other
    Sorry, Im a Spurs fan. I just call them like I see them, and when Pop's bonehead loyalty minutes get in the way, I like to on Spurstalk. I actually like KL, but wouldnt pay him the max, and I understand someone else will. Same story when Spurs signed splitter for 9 million. Why do that? Let someone else do that. Tiago cannot win a series, and in fact, is a liability in all the big ones. Similarly, KL had his chance to take over - played the minutes, got the touches, couldnt finish, but a 38 year old could?

    I dont see how that goes and makes a MAXPLAYER statement. I think all the player-fans want KL as a max simply due to his FMVP, which means absolutely zero in my book. I would rather have wins than any personal trophies. KL was kept in check by a scrub player (barnes) and Re ran him ragged on offense.

    To be honest, I dont know what the spurs do. But selling the whole thing and putting Leonard in charge is not smart in my opinion.

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    do you have lebron's FG% with kawhi on/off him?
    sure don't. don't really care though. still the mvp and dpoy.

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    sure don't. don't really care though. still the mvp and dpoy.
    Also the one who lost the 13 finals, and the one who couldnt lead the Spurs past the benchless clippers, and the 20yo who was outplayed on offense AND defense by the oldest player in the league

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    He's improved every year and been very respectful to not step on toes. He's still hesitant to take over cause of respect what the more do you want?

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    He's improved every year and been very respectful to not step on toes. He's still hesitant to take over cause of respect what the more do you want?
    1-7 in the fourth tho.

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    He's improved every year and been very respectful to not step on toes. He's still hesitant to take over cause of respect what the more do you want?
    LOLOLOLOL

    Im sure thats EXACTLY what he is doing.

    KL most minutes in playoffs
    KL most shots in playoffs
    KL most TOs in playoffs.

    reason - dont want to step on toes.

    WE TO LO

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    Also the one who lost the 13 finals, and the one who couldnt lead the Spurs past the benchless clippers, and the 20yo who was outplayed on offense AND defense by the oldest player in the league
    Also the Finals MVP. Also the reason the Spurs stopped getting bounced early in the playoffs. Also the DPOY. Also a huge reason Duncan has 5. Yeah, that guy sucks.

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