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    God I can't believe we're gonna be paying Porky 15mil a season tbh

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    God I can't believe we're gonna be paying Porky 15mil a season tbh
    For 3 more years... just an insanely bad contract right now, tbh. Up there with Joe Johnson's and Roy Hibbert's imo. (Although Johnson's is still worse).

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    God I can't believe we're gonna be paying Porky 15mil a season tbh
    Yep, sucks looking at potential free agent targets, thinking about what to pay Duncan/Leonard/Green to come back, retooling. Then you realize Porker has a 45 million extension killing the retool process.

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    I see the Spurs getting a few role playing FAs this summer-- guys like Jerebko, Brandan Wright, Jared Dudley-- rather than one bigger named star.
    Jared Dudley? That guy's a got who was the Clippers' version of Paul Pressey. Spurs are ed if that's the kind of crap they sign.

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    Jared Dudley? That guy's a got who was the Clippers' version of Paul Pressey. Spurs are ed if that's the kind of crap they sign.
    I would rather have Marco be the permanent backup SF before having Dudley in a Spurs jersey.

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    So anyone have a good breakdown of the salary situation for the offseason? Like who's on contract, what the cap holds are, Leonard's inevitable max contract, estimated salary cap, etc.

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    Jared Dudley's one of the best 3-point shooters in the league, especially from the corner, but he's a major - on defense.. And if he's our only acquisition, we'll be bounced in the first or second round next year.

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    Jared Dudley's one of the best 3-point shooters in the league, especially from the corner, but he's a major - on defense.. And if he's our only acquisition, we'll be bounced in the first or second round next year.
    The Clippers had one of the weakest SG/SF rotations in the league and he was so ty even garbage like Danny Granger was getting minutes ahead of him. Dudley got overhyped for putting up so-so numbers on weak Suns teams.

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    The Clippers had one of the weakest SG/SF rotations in the league and he was so ty even garbage like Danny Granger was getting minutes ahead of him. Dudley got overhyped for putting up so-so numbers on weak Suns teams.
    He was pretty good for the Bucks late in the year and had a mini-resurgence, but ya, he's not good enough to get excited for IMO..

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    Locks and near locks to return: Duncan, Parker, Leonard, Splitter, Mills and Anderson

    Likely to return: Green

    50/50 to return: Ginobili, Diaw, Joseph and Baynes

    Unlikely to return: Belinelli, Ayres

    Locks and near locks to not return: Bonner, Williams


    - Green probably only won't if he get's an astronomical offer.

    - Diaw is the most likely core player to be traded if Aldridge signs. Splitter is younger and plays a position far more difficult to fill. Speaking of which, Aldridge would obviously be the positional replacement for Diaw.

    - Joseph and Baynes probably return if Aldridge doesn't sign and vice versa. Having quality third PG and C options isn't a luxury a team heavily financially invested in the top end can afford.

    - Belinelli has made it clear it'll be more about the money this time. The only scenario I could envision him returning in, is if Aldridge doesn't sign and Ginobili retires. The only scenario I could envision Ayres returning in, is if Aldridge does sign.

    - Bonner, I could only see returning if Aldridge signs and Diaw is traded without a cheaper stretch four coming back, as they'd need one for the minimum in that scenario.


    Ideal roster next season:

    Aldridge/Scott/Jean-Charles
    Leonard/Anderson
    Duncan/Splitter
    Green/Ginobili
    Parker/Mills

    Whichever of 3rd C, 4th-6th wing and 3rd PG, is not filled in the draft, they'll need to sign, with only the minimum at their disposal.

    Baynes replacement: Ayres. Similar players, knows the system, good teammate.

    Belinelli replacement: Jenkins. Very good shooter, not good or established enough to block Anderson from being in the rotation, should he prove ready.

    Williams replacement: This spot could be left open for financial/flexibility reasons. If not, Gee makes sense as a third wing defender, or Franklin if he's waived at some point.

    Joseph replacement: Can't come up with a specific name, but someone in his mold makes sense.

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    Locks and near locks to return: Duncan, Parker, Leonard, Splitter, Mills and Anderson

    Likely to return: Green

    50/50 to return: Ginobili, Diaw, Joseph and Baynes

    Unlikely to return: Belinelli, Ayres

    Locks and near locks to not return: Bonner, Williams


    - Green probably only won't if he get's an astronomical offer.

    - Diaw is the most likely core player to be traded if Aldridge signs. Splitter is younger and plays a position far more difficult to fill. Speaking of which, Aldridge would obviously be the positional replacement for Diaw.

    - Joseph and Baynes probably return if Aldridge doesn't sign and vice versa. Having quality third PG and C options isn't a luxury a team heavily financially invested in the top end can afford.

    - Belinelli has made it clear it'll be more about the money this time. The only scenario I could envision him returning in, is if Aldridge doesn't sign and Ginobili retires. The only scenario I could envision Ayres returning in, is if Aldridge does sign.

    - Bonner, I could only see returning if Aldridge signs and Diaw is traded without a cheaper stretch four coming back, as they'd need one for the minimum in that scenario.


    Ideal roster next season:

    Aldridge/Scott/Jean-Charles
    Leonard/Anderson
    Duncan/Splitter
    Green/Ginobili
    Parker/Mills

    Whichever of 3rd C, 4th-6th wing and 3rd PG, is not filled in the draft, they'll need to sign, with only the minimum at their disposal.

    Baynes replacement: Ayres. Similar players, knows the system, good teammate.

    Belinelli replacement: Jenkins. Very good shooter, not good or established enough to block Anderson from being in the rotation, should he prove ready.

    Williams replacement: This spot could be left open for financial/flexibility reasons. If not, Gee makes sense as a third wing defender, or Franklin if he's waived at some point.

    Joseph replacement: Can't come up with a specific name, but someone in his mold makes sense.

    Now I would like for you to explain all of those players fitting under the cap....Especially Duncan,Manu,Kawhi, and Green lol your "Ideal" roster is literally impossible

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    Some of this, I agree with, but the KA getting playing time wont happen. I also think Baynes leaves after his "we needed a tough guy and you let matt barnes throw you out of a series" game 1. Manu will retire. I think Bonner and Ayers should get the boot, but since it hasnt happened, I dont see why it would now. No way we get rid of Boris, and keep tiago.

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    [QUOTE=wildchild;7991591]About Danny and all Spurs FA.

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    Let Danny walk. Sign Khris Middleton

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    [QUOTE=Tyrone Jenkins;7993291]
    About Danny and all Spurs FA.

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    Let Danny walk. Sign Khris Middleton

    This

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    Now I would like for you to explain all of those players fitting under the cap....Especially Duncan,Manu,Kawhi, and Green lol your "Ideal" roster is literally impossible
    It's real simple: They pay Duncan and Ginobili their worth under the table.

    Does anybody actually think that, if Aldridge wants to sign with them, they're going to turn him down in order for Duncan and Ginobili to have a representative salary on a cap sheet? Or that they're going to disrespect those two by offering them whatever is left (whether it be the mini mid level or the veteran's minimum) after he signs? They can have their cake and eat it too.

    The Mavs did it last year with Nowitzki and the Nets did it two years ago with Kirilenko.

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    It's real simple: They pay Duncan and Ginobili their worth under the table.

    Does anybody actually think that, if Aldridge wants to sign with them, they're going to turn him down in order for Duncan and Ginobili to have a representative salary on a cap sheet? Or that they're going to disrespect those two by offering them whatever his left (whether it be the mini mid level or the veteran's minimum) after he signs? They can have their cake and eat it too.

    Spurs ask if they can pursue Aldridge and if they got him would they be willing to play for a certain salary. I can see Duncan or Ginobili taking the MLE?? I honestly think Manu is retiring and it'll probably be up to Duncan on what he wants. I also maybe them keeping Diaw and doing the sign and trade with Splitter and Portland....

    Shooting guard is the biggest question on this team.

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    Spurs ask if they can pursue Aldridge and if they got him would they be willing to play for a certain salary. I can see Duncan or Ginobili taking the MLE?? I honestly think Manu is retiring and it'll probably be up to Duncan on what he wants. I also maybe them keeping Diaw and doing the sign and trade with Splitter and Portland....

    Shooting guard is the biggest question on this team.
    Sure, they could try to get him to work with him, but if he doesn't bite, then what?

    Ginobili might very well retire and if he does, then it's only Duncan they'd have to do this with.

    Why would you keep Diaw and trade Splitter? There's no means with which to find a starting center in a year, when Duncan is likely to retire. Despite being 6-11 268, Aldridge's game is clearly more suited to playing power forward and he hates playing center.

    It is, which is part of why Green needs to be re-signed, whether Aldridge signs or not.

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    Sure, they could try to get him to work with him, but if he doesn't bite, then what?

    Ginobili might very well retire and if he does, then it's only Duncan they'd have to do this with.

    Why would you keep Diaw and trade Splitter? There's no means with which to find a starting center in a year, when Duncan is likely to retire. Despite being 6-11 268, Aldridge's game is clearly more suited to playing power forward and he hates playing center.

    It is, which is part of why Green needs to be re-signed, whether Aldridge signs or not.
    Baynes? You keep Diaw strictly due to salary this season. Especially if Duncan and Manu come back....I get me a starting center the year Duncan retires.

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    [QUOTE=Tyrone Jenkins;7993291]
    About Danny and all Spurs FA.

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    Let Danny walk. Sign Khris Middleton
    if the Spurs don't want to pay Green 8-9 mil, they aren't going to pay Middleton, the Bucks are going to give him near-max, probably..that's Aldridge money..

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    Scola is a free agent...

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    Scola is a free agent...
    8 years too late

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    Jared Dudley's one of the best 3-point shooters in the league, especially from the corner, but he's a major - on defense.. And if he's our only acquisition, we'll be bounced in the first or second round next year.
    He actually had a very good year defensively: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...RPM/position/5

    http://www.vantagesports.com/story/V...uptive-defense

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    I see the Spurs getting a few role playing FAs this summer-- guys like Jerebko, Brandan Wright, Jared Dudley-- rather than one bigger named star.
    Take it from someone who had to watch that got Dudley play - he's a fat cancer. Even worse, he shows up obese to every season because of his nonexistent work ethic, then blames the training staff and coach for his fatness.

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    Wouldn't be surprised if CoJo still plays in Texas next season, but not as a Spur tbh.
    Dallas needs some PG depth, actually so does HOU even with Bev returning. Good point.

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    LMA would be nice but how dedicated is he to winning? He had a terrible series against the Grizz and just seemed like he didn't give a . Do the Spurs want a player like that?

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