NBA: Where 96 Free Throw Attempts in Regulation Happens

[GuerillaBlack]

Manu actually drove to the rim to score and not to force contact and nah-uh you don't get to make that claim when one is a winner, clutch playoff performer and the other is nothing has a knack of disappearing in these months.

Here are the links of their career stats:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ginobma01.html 4.3 FTA average and never averaged more than 6 FTA per game.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...hardeja01.html 7.2 FTA average and 10.2 FTA per game in his prime

But go on tell me how you enjoy watching Harden shoot freethrows.

Sorry brah, but posting FTAs does not prove your point. What about the amount of and1s between the two players? How how many points in the paint did each average? Go look that up.

[djohn2oo8]

Indeed he was. And he topped out at 6 FTA per game. Not sure what Harden is @ 10+

Manu only averaged 30 or more minutes per game twice. Harden has been at 38, 38, and 36 the last three seasons. So don't act like minutes were the same. Still, if you condone flopping for your own players, don't condemn others for it.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Manu only averaged 30 or more minutes per game twice. Harden has been at 38, 38, and 36 the last three seasons. So don't act like minutes were the same. Still, if you condone flopping for your own players, don't condemn others for.

Per 36 minutes :
Manu - 7.3
Harden - 10

Try again.

[100%duncan]

Prime Manu was an Oscar worthy flopper. It's hypocritical.

Nice deflection. Manu never drove for whistles He is one of the most blatant floppers ever but on the defensive end with charging calls., he was never on the durant and crawford tier for flailing on jumpshots and certainly not on Harden's, dude doesn't even look at the rim sometimes. But sure let's revise history since it's cool. And no, he still ain't a carbon copy especially not in the playoffs.

[100%duncan]

Sorry brah, but posting FTAs does not prove your point. What about the amount of and1s between the two players? How how many points in the paint did each average? Go look that up.

Why don't you? I've provided numbers,facts and the eye-test backs me up. Your turn.

[djohn2oo8]

Nice deflection. Manu never drove for whistles He is one of the most blatant floppers ever but on the defensive end with charging calls., he was never on the durant and crawford tier for flailing on jumpshots and certainly not on Harden's, dude doesn't even look at the rim sometimes. But sure let's revise history since it's cool. And no, he still ain't a carbon copy especially not in the playoffs.

So if you are hit on the arm while going to.the rim, is it not a foul? And bull . Manu was one of the most blatant floppers on offense too. Or when Duncan throws his arms In the air in the post while falling sideways to get calls.I Don't hate them.for.it, it's effective. Or Parker's ballerina acts on the way to the rim. But again, it's hypocritical.

[100%duncan]

So if you are hit on the arm while going to.the rim, is it not a foul? And bull . Manu was one of the most blatant flippers on offense too.

Damn you're reaching It's not about technicality, it's the style of Harden's play. He gets hit the slightest of touches and then flails like a , and does that shooting bull motion without even looking at the ring

Then show me some vids or even articles of him getting called out for that. As I've said Manu is a blatant flopper but never on the offensive end. He never drove and fished for fouls/freethrows as shown in the averages but you seem to not grasp around the concept.

[djohn2oo8]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...rs-first-team/

Damn you're reaching It's not about technicality, it's the style of Harden's play. He gets hit the slightest of touches and then flails like a , and does that shooting bull motion without even looking at the ring

Then show me some vids or even articles of him getting called out for that. As I've said Manu is a blatant flopper but never on the offensive end. He never drove and fished for fouls/freethrows as shown in the averages but you seem to not grasp around the concept.

[djohn2oo8]

Manu Ginobili’s ability to sell fouls with a little dramatic flair always has been known around the NBA.

So it’s no surprised when he was tabbed on the first team of ESPN.com’s “All-Floppers” team.

Ginobili shares a first-team position at guard with Raja Bell. Other first-team selections on Beckley Mason’s team include Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Luis Scola and Ben Wallace.

Here’s what Mason has to say about Ginobili’s inclusion with Bell on the team:

“Raja Bell/Manu Ginobili, SG: Controversial decision to include both of them here, but really these two have given so much to the game. Manu with his whiplash-inducing head thrashes as he drives to the basket and Raja Bell with his ability to be thrown backwards by the slightest of contact.”




Plenty of articles. Google it yourself.

[100%duncan]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...rs-first-team/

Most of those were him on the ground, being injured or on the defensive end taking the charge. wtf?

All this manu comparison aside though, do you enjoy watching Harden shoot freethrows? No trolling or jokes. Do you defend him because he's on your team?

[100%duncan]

A joke made in jest by Mason which was literally your only "proof" on Manu on the offensive end The rest of it was pointed out by me already and that Manu was a blatant flopper. Damn, reaching.

[djohn2oo8]

Most of those were him on the ground, being injured or on the defensive end taking the charge. wtf?

All this manu comparison aside though, do you enjoy watching Harden shoot freethrows? No trolling or jokes. Do you defend him because he's on your team?

I don't care about the free throws. I care how he responds when he isn't getting them. If the team is winning because of it, then sure.

[RD2191]

Lol james haren (no d) would average 15 ppg without his 10 free throws per game. Dude is the biggest flopper of all time. And the media has always ripped on the Spurs. Manu sold a foul after contact. Harden falls and starts flailing without ever being touched.

[cantthinkofanything]

So if you are hit on the arm while going to.the rim, is it not a foul? And bull . Manu was one of the most blatant floppers on offense too. Or when Duncan throws his arms In the air in the post while falling sideways to get calls.I Don't hate them.for.it, it's effective. Or Parker's ballerina acts on the way to the rim. But again, it's hypocritical.

I don't remember Manu flopping much when he took the ball to the rim. He was looking to make the shot, not get bailed out. Most of Manu's flopping seemed to come when he was trying to draw a charging call.

[100%duncan]

I don't care about the free throws. I care how he responds when he isn't getting them. If the team is winning because of it, then sure.

But do you enjoy them? I just want an answer.

[djohn2oo8]

But do you enjoy them? I just want an answer.

It helps the team. So yeah. I don't know anyone who doesn't want their team to get free throws . Clipper Nation complains about ref assignments before the games even start.

[GuerillaBlack]

Why don't you? I've provided numbers,facts and the eye-test backs me up. Your turn.

You didn't provide anything. Just their average FTAs which does not prove that one player just looks for a foul while the other tries to score. Points in the paint and completed and1s would provide a better picture.

[Spurs9]

Its nauseating to watch

[DarrinS]

It only took 7½ quarters for the team to get their crowd into it.

[sook]

intentionally fouling for 27 FTA...then ing about it. Stfu Griffin

[djohn2oo8]

It only took 7½ quarters for the team to get their crowd into it.

Yeah Houston crowds blow.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Give Houston props. They turned up the intensity during the second half. A lot of our players became too ISO centric and made critical turnovers (red and rivers) Dwight has been a beast this series. I love watching him and DJ go at it defensively. I'm excited for Game 3.

[sook]

Give Houston props. They turned up the intensity during the second half. A lot of our players became too ISO centric and made critical turnovers (red and rivers) Dwight has been a beast this series. I love watching him and DJ go at it defensively. I'm excited for Game 3.

Tbh, the second Red starts making his shots its all over...thats what happened game 1. I said he was the X factor and will stick by it.

[100%duncan]

You didn't provide anything. Just their average FTAs which does not prove that one player just looks for a foul while the other tries to score. Points in the paint and completed and1s would provide a better picture.

Waiting for you to provide something more than words. Give me a better picture.

[DMC]

"J Crossover" 6-22, 1-8 from 3.

37% in the postseason. Guy is the hottest of trash.

He was horrific last night, terribad. Dude was chucking up that had almost zero chance of going in. Blake seems to be physically done by the middle of the 3rd quarter in these games. That makes me wonder about his conditioning. Sure he's a beast when he's on but he runs out of gas pretty quickly. The entire team does that though, and if they'd quell that screaming, chest thumping they do any time they score, maybe some of that energy would be reserved for the 4th.