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  1. #26
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    Lakerfan logic.

    No, that's stupid. The 2014 Spurs were champions, because they went on to win the championship. Before they officially won it, they were "eventual champions" or "champions-to-be."

    The 2015 Spurs were never champions. In this particular case, they might have looked like the champions because they brought back nearly the same roster...but they were still a year older than their 2014 selves, so they were still a different team.
    It's plain logic.

    You win the le, you are the champion from that day forward until you are eliminated from continuing your reign.

    "Defending champs"

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    That's chicken & it's pussy, Arc.

    You ers always have to rationalize your .
    as long as the ets or that got ass warrior team doesnt win it. i'm good. I'm hoping for a plane crash at the mountains.

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    Just curious that's all..

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    The kicker? They were headed home. First, '13, now this.

    Has Midst even acknowledge the loss yet, or, is he still playin' hard ass? Poor sport.

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    And with Chris Paul on one leg.
    Now you're saying Chris was playing on one leg against the Spurs?

    ty Suns fan take.

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    It's plain logic.

    You win the le, you are the champion from that day forward until you are eliminated from continuing your reign.

    "Defending champs"
    I suppose the logic is that, that was the team that won the championship, and the 2015 Spurs were a different team.

  7. #32
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    The 2014 Spurs weren't champions until defeating the Heat.
    The 2015 Spurs were champions until being eliminated.

    That's why phrase "defending champions" was coined.
    No, it's just a buzz word that doesn't mean anything. They are still the 2014 NBA Champs. It's not boxing.

    By your reasoning, an undefeated boxer should be a b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b champion.

    You couldn't repeat if it was a continuing thing, you'd just continue as champion. Who did you beat to repeat? No one, you were already the champion. So I guess the Clippers are the champs since they beat the champs.

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    No, it's just a buzz word that doesn't mean anything. They are still the 2014 NBA Champs. It's not boxing.

    By your reasoning, an undefeated boxer should be a b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b champion.

    You couldn't repeat if it was a continuing thing, you'd just continue as champion. Who did you beat to repeat? No one, you were already the champion. So I guess the Clippers are the champs since they beat the champs.
    Individual sports are organized different, chubs.

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    Individual sports are organized different, chubs.
    The concept is the same. Champions that "repeat" aren't defending a le. They are never referred to as "former champions". So you're saying the team that beats the "defending champ" doesn't win the championship. That's pretty ing stupid, even for a ty troll like you. How can you be defending a championship if you're trying to get to the Finals? You're not. You're trying to repeat as champs. Way to let the media think for you, got.

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    The concept is the same. Champions that "repeat" aren't defending a le. They are never referred to as "former champions". So you're saying the team that beats the "defending champ" doesn't win the championship. That's pretty ing stupid, even for a ty troll like you. How can you be defending a championship if you're trying to get to the Finals? You're not. You're trying to repeat as champs. Way to let the media think for you, got.
    No its not, chubs.

    You are the Champs until losing. See: "defending champions"

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    DMC gets this round.

    Mitch is not making much sense here.

    A champion is a champion.

    That term shouldn't even be used to indicate they're defending the championship. From who exactly? The Heat?

    These guys dont get to "defend" the le until the finals. Add to it that you dont actually have to give the trophy when and if you lose it.

    This ain't boxing. These guys plays for keeps.

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    No its not, chubs.

    You are the Champs until losing. See: "defending champions"
    Culburn's "argumentum ad nauseum" schtick is taken. Maybe try another?

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    DMC gets this round.

    Mitch is not making much sense here.

    A champion is a champion.

    That term shouldn't even be used to indicate they're defending the championship. From who exactly? The Heat?

    These guys dont get to "defend" the le until the finals. Add to it that you dont actually have to give the trophy when and if you lose it.

    This ain't boxing. These guys plays for keeps.
    It's marketing hype. How many les does Mayweather have? If he'd lose a couple, he'd have more.

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    To paraphrase Comic Book Guy, worst thread ever.

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