Danny Green HUGE UPDATE

[RD2191]

continued takes from wildbill

[timtonymanu]

Green is an enigma.
He has such bad handle that he often can't perform the most basic basketball offensive maneuver--the layup. For Christ's sake, every player who ever played the game starts with that basic shot and they use it as a drill before games and practices to loosen up and Green makes it an adventure. Every time he drives, it is an "I can't look" moment.

His 3pt shot isn't consistent. Comes and goes. When he is hot, he is capable of lighting up the court and setting records, but when he is cold, he goes an entire game without making a shot. How does a coach use someone like that? He makes the starting lineup and finds that his SHOOTING GUARD can't throw the ball in the ocean.

He can play defense--when his head is in the game. It seems that when his shot is off it gets into his head and he lets his defensive effort go down as well. But when his shot isn't falling is precisely the time when he should compensate by giving the most effort on defense so he isn't a complete liability on the court. I think the way he played himself onto the Spurs was by his defense. He really needs to concentrate on that when on the court. It is a skill that is best demonstrated by effort and he can give that every game if he keeps defense first in focus.

You always want a player to work hard on his game to improve areas of weakness and develop new strengths. Kwahi is said to be a super gym rat always working on his game. I don't know if DG gives that effort. Can you work on concentration, consistency and basketball smarts?

All that being said, I feel sure the FO will probably bring him back if a reasonable salary increase can be negotiated.

He was off for most of the Clippers series yet still shut down Chris Paul when he was guarding him. Green shouldn't be expected to be anything more than a 3 & D role player. He shouldn't be compared to Kawhi. Even with his shortcomings, he really excels at his role and you need players of his type to win championships.

[AFBlue]

File this under "common sense". Danny could get $10-12M/yr on the open market given the pending rise in cap space next Summer. The Spurs are in a "retooling" mode per Pop himself, so that means certain players won't be back. I'm sure they like Danny a whole lot, but not to the tune of $10-12M/yr and not at the expense of more impactful long term options.

[wildbill2u]

He was off for most of the Clippers series yet still shut down Chris Paul when he was guarding him. Green shouldn't be expected to be anything more than a 3 & D role player. He shouldn't be compared to Kawhi. Even with his shortcomings, he really excels at his role and you need players of his type to win championships.

We need to file a protest with the league office then, because someone posing as Chris Paul killed us during the series.

[loveforthegame]

File this under "common sense". Danny could get $10-12M/yr on the open market given the pending rise in cap space next Summer. The Spurs are in a "retooling" mode per Pop himself, so that means certain players won't be back. I'm sure they like Danny a whole lot, but not to the tune of $10-12M/yr and not at the expense of more impactful long term options.

This.

I'm sure the Spurs will try to keep Green but it's likely a team will offer him more than they're willing to pay him.

[timtonymanu]

We need to file a protest with the league office then, because someone posing as Chris Paul killed us during the series.

He killed the Spurs whenever Green wasn't guarding him. For some reason, Pop didn't always stick with that defensive matchup. I think Green's defense that series was the only contribution he was having.

I remember Game 6 against OKC last year, Danny was having an awful shooting night up until the 4th. But it was still one of his best defensive performances.

[Mnky]

Again I know I was going to get for this, but I was hoping that me being a member of ST for over 6 years and my limited amount of posting would offset the amount of criticism, because I don't post unless it's either an actual relevant basketball conversation or important update where I can't find anywhere else

Don't worry about the Fools yo. Appreciate the post. Most of these people don't have a life, so I use that to stay updated.
Despite their "bball gospel," it's easy to conclude that 90% of this board has never played or coached any type of significant basketball. I wouldn't care for their opinions too much. This is probably where they get most of their attention in life. Que the acting out.

[Spurs9]

social media talk being taken as breaking news

[Malik Hairston]

How much can Green possibly be worth? 3 point shooters like Korver and Dunleavy didn't go for a lot of money. Tony Allen who is plays elite defense and is very passable on offense is not earning a lot of money either. They all make $5 million or under. Green is younger than them sure but I don't see him making that much more. Wesley Matthews, who is a more complete player than Green makes $6-7 million. I think that's what the Spurs should offer and that would be a reasonable price for Green. It is hard to see another team offering $10+ million for Green.

Those are all old contracts IIRC..

Korver would easily get much more than he currently makes if he was a FA, I don't know why you mentioned Mike Dunleavy..Tony Allen is much less valuable in today's NBA than he would have been in previous eras because he's an offensive liability(see: Spurs-Grizz WCFs where the Spurs weren't even guarding him or Prince)..

Wes Matthews and Khris Middleton(both better than Green, but play similar roles) are/were both expected to get near-max deals in the upcoming off-season..

Ariza got 8/year last year, which is closer to what Green is, since they're both spot-up shooters that play D and can't create for themselves(Ariza being a better finisher at the rim, while Green is a better shooter and probably better on D)..

[therealtruth]

He killed the Spurs whenever Green wasn't guarding him. For some reason, Pop didn't always stick with that defensive matchup. I think Green's defense that series was the only contribution he was having.

I remember Game 6 against OKC last year, Danny was having an awful shooting night up until the 4th. But it was still one of his best defensive performances.

DG can get hot in hurry. Remember game 1 of the Finals. I don't know why he's not a bigger part of the offense like Kyle Korver in Atlanta. It doesn't mean he has to shoot every time. But his "gravity" or ability to pull defenders should be used more.

[MI21]

I have a source within the Spurs, let's just say an Australian, and he/she has confirmed with me that he/she has heard nothing about this and is quietly confident Green will be back.

[cd98]

If the Spurs don't land LMA, or one of the two other big FA, then why not sign Green.

[ElNono]

We're talking about LDN here.... ofcourse it's HUGE news...

[Uriel]

If renouncing Danny Green and trading Tiago Splitter is what you need to do to get LaMarcus Aldridge while keeping the Big 4 intact, you do it. Can you imagine a lineup of:

PG - Parker
SG - Ginobili
SF - Leonard
PF - Aldridge
C - Duncan

On paper, that would be, by far, the best 5-man lineup in the NBA.

[Spur|n|Austin]

If renouncing Danny Green and trading Tiago Splitter is what you need to do to get LaMarcus Aldridge while keeping the Big 4 intact, you do it. Can you imagine a lineup of:

PG - Parker
SG - Ginobili
SF - Leonard
PF - Aldridge
C - Duncan

On paper, that would be, by far, the best 5-man lineup in the NBA.

Who's your back up C? Start Manu? Come on man.

[Malik Hairston]

If renouncing Danny Green and trading Tiago Splitter is what you need to do to get LaMarcus Aldridge while keeping the Big 4 intact, you do it. Can you imagine a lineup of:

PG - Parker
SG - Ginobili
SF - Leonard
PF - Aldridge
C - Duncan

On paper, that would be, by far, the best 5-man lineup in the NBA.

Offensively..defense would be horrible with a Parker-Ginobili backcourt and a Duncan-Aldridge frontcourt..

[Robz4000]

If renouncing Danny Green and trading Tiago Splitter is what you need to do to get LaMarcus Aldridge while keeping the Big 4 intact, you do it. Can you imagine a lineup of:

PG - Parker
SG - Ginobili
SF - Leonard
PF - Aldridge
C - Duncan

On paper, that would be, by far, the best 5-man lineup in the NBA.

No. It wouldn't.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Green says FALSE! Per Instagram.

[blizz]

All you Green lovers out there, aside from 3 games against the Heat a few years ago, in a series that he then disappeared in, what has this kid done during the playoffs? He was terrible this time around and a good reason why we lost. Why does he get a free pass when most of you are calling for Parker's head? I'm tired of this kid disappearing during the playoffs. He's slightly better than Bonner when it comes to playoff action AND he was torched all series long. him, buy bye DG go suck somewhere else.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

If renouncing Danny Green and trading Tiago Splitter is what you need to do to get LaMarcus Aldridge while keeping the Big 4 intact, you do it. Can you imagine a lineup of:

PG - Parker
SG - Ginobili
SF - Leonard
PF - Aldridge
C - Duncan

On paper, that would be, by far, the best 5-man lineup in the NBA.

That's a horrible in lineup. Park and Manu have fell off a cliff.

[Malik Hairston]

All you Green lovers out there, aside from 3 games against the Heat a few years ago, in a series that he then disappeared in, what has this kid done during the playoffs? He was terrible this time around and a good reason why we lost. Why does he get a free pass when most of you are calling for Parker's head? I'm tired of this kid disappearing during the playoffs. He's slightly better than Bonner when it comes to playoff action AND he was torched all series long. him, buy bye DG go suck somewhere else.

he shot 48% from 3 on 5 attempts per game in the 2 previous playoffs, which is literally one of the best shooting stretches in playoffs history..

A lot of you have 10-second memories, it's ridiculous..

[Robz4000]

Offensively..defense would be horrible with a Parker-Ginobili backcourt and a Duncan-Aldridge frontcourt..

The offense wouldn't even be that good. The only one who can consistently hit a jumper would be Aldridge with Manu's decline; the spacing would be even worse than we saw in the first round.

[RD2191]

he shot 48% from 3 on 5 attempts per game in the 2 previous playoffs, which is literally one of the best shooting stretches in playoffs history..

A lot of you have 10-second memories, it's ridiculous..

[Embedded]

Danny Green, I you read this - your story is unique, it is one of perseverance and determination. It needs a happy ending, please stay a Spur for life.

[spursparker9]