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Green needs to change his number back!
some fit better than others. marco worked well in the system. he was a solid bench player and made some big shots for us, he's just a liability on defense.
we had bowen. we got green. we initially got kawhi just for his defense.
all i'm saying is, RC has a knack for finding good defensive players, and Chip turns them into elite shooting machines.
a team isn't just the players. remember that.
Last edited by Arc; 05-10-2015 at 02:00 AM.
Green needs to change his number back!
Holy there are some re ed takes in this thread.
am I the only one that saw green's performance this year in the playoffs? No team is gonna pay this dude a ton of bread. If someone is dumb enough to do it, after the 3rd year of them finding out he's just a taller, darker version of steve kerr with better defense, they'll put him on the trading block.
Can I get link to the page pls?
I saw him going after the 2013 loss. he was partying with LBJ and co.
And I saw him going again when Pop was screaming at him and he tried to argue back and Pop was like "I dont want to hear it"
Hes one of the greatest 3 and D guys around and he was very good in the finals but if someone is leaving the spurs its him unfortunately.
I dont think we need to make changes. We are still the best team in the nba without injuries. The only player i want to trade is splitter because he is too injury prone.
Like Bogans? Like Udoka? It's all system, right?
DG a system player
Dude is an elite defender you ing idiots. Well worth the money.
some players don't always pan out. danny green is a great system player, but still a system player. he can't create his own shot. i'm not sure how you people don't understand this. the only way he'd stay great is if you put him on a team with a system that gets 3 point shooters open looks. not many teams can move the ball like we do though.
If Jodie freaking Meeks got 6m a year on his deal I expect Danny to get at least 8m to 10m. You can't teach someone effort, you can teach them the mechanics of playing defense but they have to want to do it and Danny does that. He is also an excellent 3 point shooter who is streaky. Most 3&D guys are streaky shooters. Danny isn't really a system player, he follows thr playbook and spots up where he's supposed to but he's a monster in transition when he pulls up for 3. Spurs hardly ever run screens for him to free him up or multiple screens to give him wide open looks. Imagine Danny on a team that actually willingly incorporates his abilities into their playbook for more than 1 or 2 plays? There are teams out there that will do that, teams in the west.
Can an you imagine the horror of a western team picking up Danny and then having him lock down Parker? Lol imagine those stats.
I think the assumption is either Splitter or Diaw would get shipped out to create cap room and Danny retained. It would be impossible to keep everyone and bring in a max guy. Losing Danny would create the biggest hole unless some magic can be done in the draft.
It's gonna be one of those off seasons, isn't it?
One of dumbest posters on this site alongside tholdren, sasdynasty, and arc.longtimespurfan has to be a troll tbh. if he's a real spurs fan then gaw damn
+1 Yeah I am OK with signing him but if he wants to get $$$ then let his ass go back to the Cavs.
I'm okay if Splitter goes. He's probably more important than Danny, but his value is reduced by the lack of reliability to be on the court. Boris is a guy that I wouldn't want them to let go. Assuming Manu calls it quits this year or next, the Spurs will need a primary ball handler and facilitator for the second unit. Boris seems well suited for that role.
Without injuries, seems Splitter is always injured though so when is he without injuries? Parker was just old and fat it looked like, playing this summer won't make him any fresher next season and he will be a year older. Without changes the Spurs are good but they are not the best team in the NBA IMO, age catching up with some and they are not as good as they were in that 014 run. A year with health and this same team? Not going to happen and even Pop said changes were going to be made to the roster this offseason. You can't just roll out the same team.
Elite implies that he does whatever he does at a high level consistently. You're the one claiming he's elite. I'll say he flashes elite skills for stretches, but I would honestly prefer someone who is more consistently above average than someone who flashes elite then disappears. But that's just me.
Green has got some very extreme offensive liabilities. The key for his success is having him surrounded by good ball handlers. His D is too valuable. And he must make the defense run him off the line with his ability at 3 range. We just have to make sure his mates on the court can take up the ball handling duties.
TP, Manu, KL and Patty all have to better penetrators and primary handlers to pair with Green. Danny will be a fine asset with the right guys around him. Other teams have got to see this. Pop got put in some bad spots with Green because of Tony's decline and Manu's vast number of bad injuries catching up. If some team has money to burn and puts Danny with the wrong group he will fail while making money. His agent must see this and so should he. So make the choice.
looks like i was right about you being a kid.
dude - Danny green had no significantly better stats than anyone on the team this year. In fact, without looking I GUARANTEE tim led defensive statistics. EYEBALL test.
TWO WORDS - MATT BONNER
And that was the issue with Green this year. No shot, average at best defense. Dont care that he slumped in shooting. Care that he looked like he was pouting and uninterested the whole time he played defense. Cannot have that. We need an enforcer or intensity guy. This year it was Tim and Mills. No real momentum changers on either end (besides Tim/Patty) and that's why we lost. NO ENERGY = NO RING.
Danny Green is more interested in the club scene and dancing than he is being a bad-ass. And that's why he can walk. Doesnt have the intangibles to get him paid. Same idiots who give the Tiago Defense speech are the same s giving the Danny = elite.
He's a 3&D guy. That's his role and that's what he's elite at. Obviously he's not an elite overall player but that is irrelevant...since if he was a complete player we wouldn't have enjoyed him the past couple years at $3-4 mill per year and he'd be way above our price range this off-season.
His D is there all the time. His shooting is there most of the time, that's as good as you can expect from a 3&D guy.
You're a re of epic proportions tbh.
Easy to say, hard to prove without posting stats. Of course if you are including all the years he bounced around the league and the D league in general without any stat backup, maybe you have a good case. If improvement from 13 to last year to this, maybe not so much.
By the way, I posted a thread on COJO which shows his improvement every year in every stat which I think qualifies him as the most improved.
100% on Diaw. You need his ball handling and I don't think he'll bring back as much in a trade as Tiago. Would suck to lose Tiago's D but there's a price for everything.
One thing I didn't realize is Reggie Williams' deal is non-guaranteed. Interesting trade chip depending on the guarantee date - Spurs may not have much use for it but another team could looking to make salaries match.
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