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    ...but he never needed back-up PGs to close out WCFs or Finals for him.




    Meanwhile:






    *not included are Kerr bailing him out in the '03 WCFs, Barry in the '05 Finals, CoJo in the '14 WCFs

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    MVPaddy would've probably come through again this year but Pop strayed from the blueprint, unfortunately.

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    Remember that time AJ averaged 25/10/4 on 53% in the Conferance Finals? Or remember that time he averaged 25/5/5 on 57% in the Finals? Oh right, never mind, that was Parker.

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    Then what did AJ average in the Conference Finals? Oh right it was 12/8/2 on 41%. And what about the Finals...even better: 9/7/3 on 50%. Lol, are you kidding me with this thread? Lol.

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    Dumb argument. Avery wouldn't get off the bench on this past year's squad.

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    Remember that time AJ averaged 25/10/4 on 53% in the Conferance Finals? Or remember that time he averaged 25/5/5 on 57% in the Finals? Oh right, never mind, that was Parker.

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    Dumb argument. Avery wouldn't get off the bench on this past year's squad.

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    Ok this Parker worshipping has gone full delusional now.

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    4 rings, got.

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    FkLA bringing many valid issues to the light of day. Well done

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    Top all time starters

    Duncan Robinson Gervin Avery Sean
    all time Back ups

    Manu Parker Silas Gilmore Bowen Kawhi Horry Kerr

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    Avery's performance in the 2001 West Finals was epic. 6.3/1.0/2.3 on 37% from the field and 50% from the line while not even being good enough to displace Terry Porter from the starting lineup.

    He was so good in that series, it prompted the Spurs to pick a 19-year old point guard (and to have him mentored by Porter).

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    Can tell OP must be in his early 20's. Avery had series where he looked like pure garbage. Avery put up garbage numbers against the Jazz in '96 which were 10.8 points on 38 percent shooting. Avery also was even worse when it came to shooting 3 pointers compared to Parker. Since AJ couldn't hit open 3's teams would always pack the paint area and maul David simply because they knew AJ couldn't hit open shots. If Spurstalk existed during the 90's Avery would have been ripped apart on here. The OP is also right Avery never needed a backup PG to close out a series because the spurs didn't have a backup PG lol.

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    IF you saw Avery's backups, you would know why they never got any playing time. TBH, Avery was a backup quality player. Spurs didn't need an expert point guard to throw the ball to a prime David Robinson, and later, to a prime Duncan.

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    Avery's performance in the 2001 West Finals was epic. 6.3/1.0/2.3 on 37% from the field and 50% from the line while not even being good enough to displace Terry Porter from the starting lineup.

    He was so good in that series, it prompted the Spurs to pick a 19-year old point guard (and to have him mentored by Porter).

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    Avery couldn't hold his own against Kenny Smith. Imagine him in today's golden era of PG's

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    Avery's performance in the 2001 West Finals was epic. 6.3/1.0/2.3 on 37% from the field and 50% from the line while not even being good enough to displace Terry Porter from the starting lineup.

    He was so good in that series, it prompted the Spurs to pick a 19-year old point guard (and to have him mentored by Porter).

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    Avery's performance in the 2001 West Finals was epic. 6.3/1.0/2.3 on 37% from the field and 50% from the line while not even being good enough to displace Terry Porter from the starting lineup.

    He was so good in that series, it prompted the Spurs to pick a 19-year old point guard (and to have him mentored by Porter).
    ^^^ This, dude was average as and Parker is light years ahead of him overall in the playoffs and career wise. I like Avery but come on now.
    Can tell OP must be in his early 20's. Avery had series where he looked like pure garbage. Avery put up garbage numbers against the Jazz in '96 which were 10.8 points on 38 percent shooting. Avery also was even worse when it came to shooting 3 pointers compared to Parker. Since AJ couldn't hit open 3's teams would always pack the paint area and maul David simply because they knew AJ couldn't hit open shots. If Spurstalk existed during the 90's Avery would have been ripped apart on here. The OP is also right Avery never needed a backup PG to close out a series because the spurs didn't have a backup PG lol.
    This is 100% the truth.

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    Avery's performance in the 2001 West Finals was epic. 6.3/1.0/2.3 on 37% from the field and 50% from the line while not even being good enough to displace Terry Porter from the starting lineup.

    He was so good in that series, it prompted the Spurs to pick a 19-year old point guard (and to have him mentored by Porter).

    Good ole FWD....

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    IF you saw Avery's backups, you would know why they never got any playing time. TBH, Avery was a backup quality player. Spurs didn't need an expert point guard to throw the ball to a prime David Robinson, and later, to a prime Duncan.
    While Avery isnt and wasnt Tony Parker, he was better than you think.

    Avery was a darn good point guard.

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    The "Avery was better than Tony" argument is ridiculous from the jump, but the funny thing about it is that even a year ago, no reasonable Spurs fan who would even think about suggesting that (which still remains true -- no *reasonable* fan would make that argument). The new generation doesn't really know how bad things were pre-Tony and how frequently the Spurs came up short because they got such poor play from their backcourt in big playoff moments.

    Tony may not be great any more, but what he is does not define what he has been.

    Tony Parker will breeze into the Hall of Fame, largely because he is unquestionably the best point guard in the history of the Spurs franchise and, like it or not, a substantial reason that 4 of the 5 le banners hang at the AT&T Center.

    The trolling passes the time, I guess.

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    While Avery isnt and wasnt Tony Parker, he was better than you think.

    Avery was a darn good point guard.
    Hey, I'll always have love for AJ. He hit the GW shot to give the Spurs their first NBA Championship ever.

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    Nobody is arguing that AJ was more talented. Just that he didn't crumble in crunchtime so much that the back-ups had to bail him out. I mean that's the kind of stupid logic that is being used when comparing Enrique to CP3 (who is clearly better)...so why not use it when comparing him to the Little General?

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    Nobody is arguing that AJ was more talented. Just that he didn't crumble in crunchtime so much that the back-ups had to bail him out. I mean that's the kind of stupid logic that is being used when comparing Enrique to CP3 (who is clearly better)...so why not use it when comparing him to the Little General?
    The problem is you argument is flawed again considering the Spurs didn't have any good ing backups back then. Name me a good backup PG the spurs had during the 90's.backing up AJ? Spurs had no choice to play AJ in the 4th even when he was sucking because they had no backups back then. AJ did have an equal or if not more moments where he didn't come through in crunch time. Outside of the '99 run AJ had plenty of choking moments under pressure.

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    The problem is you argument is flawed again considering the Spurs didn't have any good ing backups back then. Name me a good backup PG the spurs had during the 90's.backing up AJ? Spurs had no choice to play AJ in the 4th even when he was sucking because they had no backups back then. AJ did have an equal or if not more moments where he didn't come through in crunch time. Outside of the '99 run AJ had plenty of choking moments under pressure.
    Yeah, bc Speedy or a 37 yr old Kerr were amazing back-ups. So was a 22 yr old CoJo . Barry and Paddy were/are more SG than PG.

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