Clippers: Not going to blame Paul and Griffin too much..

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Forgot to mention that CP3 was being defended by Ariza while simultaneously having to defend Harden in that 2nd half. A 6'0 PG. That's ridiculous. that Clippers team wasn't going anywhere. They overachieved against an old, declining Spurs team.

They went far enough to beat your ass into submission.

[Clipper Nation]

Malik continues to show that he is one of the few articulate and intelligent posters on ST, tbh...

Instead of the same old, tired and ignorant " he's their best player and they lost so he's a choking got" schtick, there's an actual thought process that goes into judging a team and/or their performance. CP3 and Blake were the only reason this was even a 7 game series.

LAC's supporting cast (Barnes, Re , Crawford, Rivers jr, fat baby Davis, Hawes, etc.) were all absolutely horrible in game's 6 & 7, after playing abnormally well in 3 of the first 4 games.

Meanwhile, the Rocket's supporting cast (Smoove, Ariza, Brewer, Terry, Prigioni, T-Jones) all played outstanding for the most part in Game's 5-7. It's really that simple. That was the difference in the series. The Clips were gassed in every one of the past 3 games because they don't ever get to sit. That made it all the worse.

I love how people always get all up-in-arms about the term "choke" and look for excuses when Choke Paul does it. The same people don't think twice about throwing Melo, LeBron, Dwight, Westbrook, etc. under the bus when they lose, but it's suddenly "dumb" and "poor analysis" to point the finger at Choke Paul for ting the bed.

"He was gassed!" Maybe try losing weight and not being such a chubby got. Better yet, take a paycut so we can afford a Speedy Claxton or MVPatty to bail you out of your chokejobs.

[Agloco]

They went far enough to beat your ass into submission.

Meanwhile 48.5 relegates you to sniping from the sidelines. Carry on.

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Meanwhile 48.5 relegates you to sniping from the sidelines. Carry on.

And you're right next to me. Now, get to in' shinin', Aggy. MIRRORS!

[kamikazi_player]

Choke Paul deserves 90% of the blame. He is getting paid $107 million (the most on the team). He forced his way to this team, demanded that we sign bums like Crawful and Barnes, and threw a hissy-fit until we traded for Quitters. In the two biggest games of his life, he overdribbled, flopped and turned it over in the closing minutes against OKC and then refused to shoot until garbage time today. This ing got is a career loser. He will never win and it's not his teammates' fault. He'd still lose in the second round if he had LeBron, Durant and Davis on his team.I'm also rip at Blake for having his first awful game of the playoffs today of all days and giving Choke Paul the scapegoat he needs to avoid blame.This team is ing pathetic. A complete disgrace. I only hope Ballmer is furious at how these losers from Doc on down torched his $2 billion imvestment and heads start rolling this summer.

Honestly I wouldn't be too mad at Paul. Look at the Crippers before they had CP3 and Blake. They were not going anywhere with Elton Brand, Corey Maggette, and Cuttino Mobley. They have a long way to go but they need to upgrade their bench. These starters played most of the games in the regular season and they were gassed as they approached the playoffs. Doc Rivers needs to let someone else handle GM and they might go further next year. This team is still young and are always a threat to the warriors since it's a rivalry game

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depending on Jr and Red to go off to win games
Rivers as a GM

Still, they had a 3-1 lead. They only needed one more game, and proceeded to lose 3 straight. No one gets a pass here.

[da_suns_fan]

They deserve some blame, of course, but realistically and all cliches aside, that roster is extremely limited, tbh..Jordan is good, but overrated and limited, but they have the worst 4-12 of any West playoff team and probably worse than most of the East playoff teams, too..

Re and Barnes are 2 of the worst starters in the playoffs, and their bench is atrocious..they have actually been really fortunate that Tom Jr has played way above his head in a number of games in these playoffs..

All the minutes of carrying a terrible roster with a below average defense and no bench was going to take a toll, especially after getting the Spurs in the 1st round..

You'd definitely prefer to see those two coming o

Doc is awful as a GM.

[Clipper Nation]

Honestly I wouldn't be too mad at Paul. Look at the Crippers before they had CP3 and Blake. They were not going anywhere with Elton Brand, Corey Maggette, and Cuttino Mobley. They have a long way to go but they need to upgrade their bench. These starters played most of the games in the regular season and they were gassed as they approached the playoffs. Doc Rivers needs to let someone else handle GM and they might go further next year. This team is still young and are always a threat to the warriors since it's a rivalry game

At least we had lottery picks and cap flexibility to look forward to before the choker showed up. We should have kept tanking for a couple years and built a real team around Blake instead of trading the farm for the overpaid career loser point guard. I'd rather have Bledsoe and legitimate wings than $107 million tied up in a choking dog.

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Honestly I wouldn't be too mad at Paul.

I'll just bet you wouldn't. And why would you,,,Paul is never hoisted up upon a Media pe . Sure, we broil his weak ass, but, he's under the protection of Silver and that Jew conclave in NY. Ipso facto,,,Media won't touch him.

If I were him? I'd drop the shield and tell 'em:::"Turn the blowtorch on me. Make me. Make ME."

[Malik Hairston]

Like I said in the OP, Paul and Griffin do deserve some blame, the star of the team always receives blame, even in cases like Lebron in 2009 where he did all he could..however, everybody criticized the Clippers roster throughout the season and at the start of the playoffs, yet it seemed like everybody forgot how bad their role players are after some of them(Barnes in particular) had a fluky shooting stretch vs. the Spurs in the 1st round(happens all the time in the NBA)..

JJ Re should be playing the same role Marco played for the Spurs, he shouldn't be defending the best ing SG in the NBA in the playoffs..he's a 6'3", short-armed White shooting specialist..he's a great shooter that should be coming off the bench to score, he shouldn't be your 3&D guy..

Jamal Crawford has nothing left, he's one of the most cancerous players in the league now that he can't score at a high level anymore..volume chuckers are becoming an afterthought in today's league, too..

Matt Barnes is an older Corey Brewer, he should be your backup SF that brings energy off the bench, not a starter..he's 33 years old, shoots 30% from 3, can't create for himself, and is an average defender, at best..fortunately for them, he somehow made 42% of his 3s vs. the Spurs, which was obviously frustrating as a Spurs fan..

Their best backup big is Glen ing Davis..he brings good energy, but he's an obese, 6'8" C..

Rivers the GM is probably the worst in the West..only Phil Jackson and the Lakers front office is probably worse, off the top of my head..he's really fortunate that his son got hot for a few games, it really bought their bench a little more credibility than it deserves..

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It's like blaming Kobe in 2006 or McGrady in 2003, tbh..those guys blew 3-1 leads, but they shouldn't have been in that position with their roster in the first place as the lower seeds..

BS. That's a loser's mentality.

"Well, we weren't even supposed to make it this far. I'm just happy to be here." No, many actually picked them to win the series if CP3 was relatively healthy, whether you agree with that or not. And even if they weren't the superior, they got a 3-1 series lead, and had three tries to win the series. Three! They split the season series 2-2, was up 3-1, with those odds you would think they could muster one win.

Sure CP3 doesn't get all the blame, but he gets the most, because he would get the most credit if they won.

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BS. That's a loser's mentality.

Nail em up, 13!!!

[kamikazi_player]

At least we had lottery picks and cap flexibility to look forward to before the choker showed up. We should have kept tanking for a couple years and built a real team around Blake instead of trading the farm for the overpaid career loser point guard. I'd rather have Bledsoe and legitimate wings than $107 million tied up in a choking dog.

Who knows if Blake Griffin would have resigned with this team without CP3. Bledsoe is ok but I don't think Blake would be staying with this team if that's all they can offer. Also, the clippers aren't really known for their drafting skills either . Paul at least gives them a chance every year and he took a step forward this year by taking the last shot against the spurs. Like I said, it could have been much worse, no one wants to go back to the pre-CP3/Blake days.

[kamikazi_player]

I'll just bet you wouldn't. And why would you,,,Paul is never hoisted up upon a Media pe . Sure, we broil his weak ass, but, he's under the protection of Silver and that Jew conclave in NY. Ipso facto,,,Media won't touch him.

If I were him? I'd drop the shield and tell 'em:::"Turn the blowtorch on me. Make me. Make ME."

Miss ya Cully, how's life?

[Clipper Nation]

Who knows if Blake Griffin would have resigned with this team without CP3. Bledsoe is ok but I don't think Blake would be staying with this team if that's all they can offer. Also, the clippers aren't really known for their drafting skills either . Paul at least gives them a chance every year and he took a step forward this year by taking the last shot against the spurs. Like I said, it could have been much worse, no one wants to go back to the pre-CP3/Blake days.

Blake was never going to pass up his first chance at big money after his rookie contract, let's be real now. And Bledsoe wasn't the only thing we'd have to offer. Keep tanking for a couple more years and we'd have a younger, more athletic, and more cost-effective team. For instance, just keep Baron for the rest of Blake's first season instead of doing the re ed Mo Williams trade. Keep the Minnesota pick instead of doing the Choke Paul trade. We'd have a better foundation to build on.

[spurraider21]

[kamikazi_player]

Blake was never going to pass up his first chance at big money after his rookie contract, let's be real now. And Bledsoe wasn't the only thing we'd have to offer. Keep tanking for a couple more years and we'd have a younger, more athletic, and more cost-effective team. For instance, just keep Baron for the rest of Blake's first season instead of doing the re ed Mo Williams trade. Keep the Minnesota pick instead of doing the Choke Paul trade. We'd have a better foundation to build on.

They have been tanking and rebuilding ever since their franchise moved to LA . I wouldn't be too sure that Blake would have stayed, he has no incentive to stay here especially if the Clippers could only offer Eric Bledsoe. He could have gone the Kevin Love route and asked to be traded (I don't think that's his personality though). At least with CP3 he has a chance to contend for a le and still get the money he wants. The only thing stopping them now is Doc being the GM and not having a bench to help them out in the regular season/playoffs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

2nd seed team doing 2nd seed things, nothing to see here

alll d12 did was planted his seeds into another 14 monkey ballers

[Clipper Nation]

They have been tanking and rebuilding ever since their franchise moved to LA . I wouldn't be too sure that Blake would have stayed, he has no incentive to stay here especially if the Clippers could only offer Eric Bledsoe. He could have gone the Kevin Love route and asked to be traded (I don't think that's his personality though). At least with CP3 he has a chance to contend for a le and still get the money he wants. The only thing stopping them now is Doc being the GM and not having a bench to help them out in the regular season/playoffs.

I'm positive he would have stayed. Nobody leaves after the rookie contract. He is not contending for a le with Choke Paul, ever. This is as "good" as it gets with that choker on the team.

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I'm positive he would have stayed. Nobody leaves after the rookie contract. He is not contending for a le with Choke Paul, ever. This is as "good" as it gets with that choker on the team.

Easy for you, CN,,,you've got your second first team to fall back to. You're corrupt.

[Clipper Nation]

Easy for you, CN,,,you've got your second first team to fall back to. You're corrupt.

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That's nonsense.

[Brazil]

they blew a what ? 20 pts lead in game 6 and they are not to blame much ?

this one is awesome