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Bob Ryan, legendary sports media figure that has been covering the game since the Wilt/Russell era was on the Leba show today, and dropped some bombs:
- Says Dad Killer is the GOAT, but his Bulls teams are extremely overrated
- Dad Killer's Bulls teams wouldn't beat any other great teams in a series
- Dad Killer's Bulls team played in the most watered down era in league history, he called it the "dark ages of the NBA"
- Warriors are a historically great team, as were last year's Spurs
- The West of the past few years has been the toughest conference in the history of the NBA
damn, 69 year old man that has been covering basketball for ages showing some refreshing, unbiased takes, unlike most of the salty media/players from the past that are blinded by their homerism and nostalgia..
Sorry lefty
Last edited by Malik Hairston; 05-21-2015 at 03:24 AM.
So Jordans 96 team would not beat any of the great teams according to
him??? 72 win team not great??? Any team from the 70s and 80s was great and after the 90s but not the 90s Bulls??? Correct?
lol at anyone denying the advancement in today's sports.
Any team today, and individual pro athlete today would dominate 90's and 80's teams/players..
just lol at all these idiots.
Those 80s teams would destroy the ty 90s teams IMO..
I'm skeptical about the number of White Americans in that era, though
Those 1990s Knicks, Pacers, and Heat teams were pretty tough.
So the post being athletes get better by the decade but a decade later meaning 80s to 90s
would have the 80s on top??? Bob Ryan mentions 80s teams but hates on 90s Bulls, by that logic would that mean athletes regressed??? I thought you hated anything pre 00's but you agree with a guy who says 86 Celts and 87 Lakers were the best?? What does that say about today???
"Warriors are a historically great team"
Defeated Pelicans, Grizzlies and Rockets
96 Bulls in 5 games over Warriors
I am a huge Spurs fan so this means the 2014 Spurs are the best of all times???
9 June 1985 turned this man bitter.
He could dish it. But, he could not take it.
"The West of the past few years has been the toughest conference in the history of the NBA"
I thought you were of the opinion that the west has been very overrated these last few years?
I agree the Bulls teams were severely overrated, particularly the 72 win team.
The 72 win team came right after the league's expansion into Canada (Toronto and Vancouver), and that is only a few years after the expansion into Miami, Orlando, Charlotte and Minnesota. The league went from a 23-team league to a 29-team league over 8 years, and that is BEFORE the league started to seriously look at overseas talent. This means that talent was greatly diluted (by 25%). Look at it this way, players who would have been 12th or 11th man is now an 8th or 9th man. Players who used to be bench players are now leading teams that are newly established. Looking at this, let's say the 6 teams are split evenly into East and West conferences, teams are now playing an extra 18 extra cake walk games (4 x 3 teams in the same conference + 2 x 3 teams in the opposite conference). Even for a very good team, that's like an extra 4 or 5 wins, not to mention extra rest for starters.
The best Bulls team was probably the 91 or 92 Bulls, and even those weren't really as great as people make them out to be.
Another interesting point to bring out though, is how Ryan didn't discount the plays of the players from the old times, like Wilt, Oscar, Russell and Cousy. I am curious as to how the OP views that. Malik Hairston.
Last edited by ambchang; 05-21-2015 at 06:53 AM.
BTW, the Bulls, any version of it, would likely be able to defeat the Warriors with some coaching adjustments.
Jordan and Pippen matches up perfectly with Thomson and Curry on defense, and Green can only guard one of Pippen or Jordan. Bogut doesn't have the verticality of challenging the two, and Grant can help pull him out of the paint. BWS like Bill Wellington, or even Cartwright can open up the paint to a reasonable degree, while players like Armstrong, Paxon and Hodges can keep the defense honest.
Bob Ryan, legendary sports media figure that has been covering the game since the Wilt/Russell era was on the Leba show today, and dropped some bombs:
- Says Dad Killer is the GOAT, but his Bulls teams are extremely overrated
- Dad Killer's Bulls teams wouldn't beat any other great teams in a series
- Dad Killer's Bulls team played in the most watered down era in league history, he called it the "dark ages of the NBA"
- Warriors are a historically great team, as were last year's Spurs
- The West of the past few years has been the toughest conference in the history of the NBA
Sorry lefty
Do me favor....google these two lines:
1.) When do old people start showing signs of dementia
2.) What are signs that old people are growing senile
I actually do think MJ and his teams are bit overrated but many on here take that a bit to far. Doubtful GSW could beat them or last year's Spurs for that matter.
What the is that supposed to mean, ap?
313, catchin' old ruddy cheeks tiptoein'.
Basketball is a sport where so much is happening that making an assessment about what one team could have done to another team is just water through a sieve.
There are only a handful of people in the world who know enough about the game and have that certain angle of approach that allows them to see things we cannot obviously see. Those people are often not writers. Even head coaches cannot figure out complex schemes and match them with personalities and talents, at least not many. That's why they are more busying looking for jobs than coaching teams.
So I don't doubt this guy knows more about basketball than anyone here, but I don't think he fully understands today's game either. We've all had decades to study the other games.
^D, finally had a BM this morning and now can think straight for the first time in a in' week.
Advancement in ty basketball IQ and lack of fundamentals (DeAndre Jordan)?
Or do you mean tier All-Stars like Kyle Korver and Teague?
Let me borrow your cartoon, Lefty, so I too can roll around & laugh my ass off...
Advancement in ty basketball IQ and lack of fundamentals (DeAndre Jordan)?
Or do you mean tier All-Stars like Kyle Korver and Teague?
Bob Ryan's takes
Only ty ones are when he sucks up to the media by calling DK the GOAT and the Warriors a historically great team
BJ Armstrong and Dana Barros making allstar teamsAdvancement in ty basketball IQ and lack of fundamentals (DeAndre Jordan)?
Or do you mean tier All-Stars like Kyle Korver and Teague?
Dana had a couple of 50 pt games, did Teague do that?
Tyrone Hill actually deserved his selection
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