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BJ Armstrong career PER: 14.5
below average all star player
At least BJ made a big shot in the playoffsBJ Armstrong and Dana Barros making allstar teams
Did Chokorver and Teagay do that?
BJ Armstrong career PER: 14.5
That was the Lakers redemption le, right?
No. We were led out of the darkness and rescued from a world of Celtic mysticism & tyranny & ushered into a future brighter than anything we could imagine.
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PERBJ Armstrong career PER: 14.5
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I tried to ask that same question, if the 90's were watered down and athletes got better now what does that say about Bob Ryans opinion on the 70's and 80's and does OP share them? If so isn't that a contradiction to his point being athletes are way better today? I mean Bob Ryan thinks the 87 Lakers and 86 Celts are the best, so if he is always telling the truth that fact would remain and nullify his love for modern day teams and players (OP)?
Didn't Dana Barros come near a 3pt record that year? I remember he was shooting threes at a VERY high clip and having a great season. Kyle Korver made the All Star team this year at 12 ppg for Gods sakes, atleast Barros was averaging 20PPG that year. What does that say when Korver makes it? Shooting 49%, 46% 3PT and 90% from the line while averaging 20 PPG sounds like an all star year to me?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barroda01.html
BTW the 90's Centers would crush these Centers today, hands DOWN. Shaq, D Rob, Hakeem, Ewing, Alonzo etc., the last days of the real big men as compared to Howard and Jordan etc.
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That an important player on a 61 win team is more deserving than a stat padder on a 24 win team? Korver also shot a better 3 point percentage despite Barros having the short three point line.
Individual is an all star selection correct? Not a team game? Like I said above he shot 49% from the field, 46% from three and 90% from the line while averaging 20 PPG, that is pretty impressive if you ask me. If he was stat padding on a bad team wouldn't they key on him? If so how did he shoot that high?
I know his team was bad but he had a of a year.
BTW I read some more of Bob Ryans stuff and he says the Bulls ruined the NBA from the relationship between locker rooms and journalists/reporters etc., he sounds very bitter when it comes to that team in some of his columns.
Korver shot 49% from the three without having the easy three point line Barros did.
Was that the year they pushed it in? The year everyone shot higher? I will look back and see, if so it's still good but definitely added a few% to that. He shot well from three a few times in his career though, not just that season so his shooting was no fluke. He also could score in more ways than just the three ball. Barros was not great I agree but a very good shooter nonetheless. That statline for him that year was impressive.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barroda01.html
He was a career .411 three shooter and lead the league in % before that so the line moved up or not he was a sharp shooter from long range. That year though it being moved up helped and put it up a few % though no doubt, agreed there.
That was the year the NBA introduced the short three point line. I'd much rather see a great shooter from a team whose games matter making the all-star game over a high usage player on a horrible team. It would be like putting Jordan Clarkson in the all-star game.
Clarksons year was not as good as Barros but I kind of see what you are saying there. Still if you are on a bad team and averaging that PPG and shooting that high of a PCT. all around that shows if they keyed on him or not he was still doing it (Which they should have if the team was that bad). Korver shoots a high clip at 3, put him in the 3PT shootout then and let him go from there IMO, not the all star game at 12PPG. I can see if he was some ace defender or all around great but dude is basically a shooter and his overall game did not warrant an all star game IMO albeit he was a reserve only after some got hurt.
Would you agree the 90's Centers were ALOT better than todays and would tear this game apart in this modern NBA of weak Centers?
Truth nukesDidn't Dana Barros come near a 3pt record that year? I remember he was shooting threes at a VERY high clip and having a great season. Kyle Korver made the All Star team this year at 12 ppg for Gods sakes, atleast Barros was averaging 20PPG that year. What does that say when Korver makes it? Shooting 49%, 46% 3PT and 90% from the line while averaging 20 PPG sounds like an all star year to me?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...barroda01.html
BTW the 90's Centers would crush these Centers today, hands DOWN. Shaq, D Rob, Hakeem, Ewing, Alonzo etc., the last days of the real big men as compared to Howard and Jordan etc.
Well PJ is managing in today's NBA, so....
And LeBron and Durant murder the weak forwards of the 90s.
BOOM SHAKA LAKA!
LeBron sure. Durant, wouldn't get those touch fouls. They would break is ass in half.
Also, Jordan was still averaging 20 a game at 38 and 39
So the 90's had its advantages too, some in here never seem to admit that and act like this era is beginning and end all...Yep...Also, Jordan was still averaging 20 a game at 38 and 39
Another thing, guys today like Blake Griffin get worn out by the 4th quarter and don't have the stamina, and somehow today's players are better
Another truth bombAlso, Jordan was still averaging 20 a game at 38 and 39
AlexJones anf Malik Hairston getting napalmed
Not to mention, the entire league has copied Pop's style in term's of resting players, however, these other guys are young and in their prime. #NoStaminaAssociation
Not to mention, the entire league has copied Pop's style in term's of resting players, however, these other guys are young and in their prime. #NoStaminaAssociation
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