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I can see Pop being like J.K Simmons in Whiplash.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/...ner-jeff-ayres
Hardly a news flash, but an amusing if time-wasting debate on the fate of our deep bench bigs.
I for one think we should keep Bonner at the minimum salary. He's good value, a great teammate, etc and not a bad 5th big. Let him leave when Duncan and Manu go.
As for Jeff, I don't think Ayers' friendship with Timmy will save him. He might be playing overseas soon.
Interesting point in the article about how you can't be too good a boy with Pop. You have to rebel a bit, to break out of the mold he's cast you in. But when you do rebel, you've got to make the most of the opportunity, you can't suck. (See Nando, Blair, and the washed-up version of Jax).
And yeah, I misspelled "Aryres" in the thread le. I can never get that right.
Last edited by BillMc; 05-22-2015 at 07:42 AM.
I can see Pop being like J.K Simmons in Whiplash.
Bonner is great value at the min, as a 5th situational big. Besides he's destined to go to the front office once he's done playing.
Ayers will be replaced by another guy who'll suck and be a scapegoat because 14th men must be all stars.
Both are great at being losers.
Boomer doesn't even have his shot anymore. s broken. He wouldn't even make a senior YMCA team imo.
Both of them can go. JaMychal Green is who we're after
Let Bonner be a developmental coach or some other BS role. There's zero reason for him to be taking up a roster spot. I'm not even gonna validate the bit about Errors. He's not an NBA player.
Keep Bonner for the min. Fills out a roster spot and has use in situational role. Spurs spacing was pretty bad last season (down shooting seasons from half the team from 3), letting him walk without a suitable replacement doesn't seem to be a good idea.
Bout 3 years late on Bonner tbh....
And like Mugen said...don't even get me started on Errors.
Shooting was down from 3 because we don't have an efficient playmaker anymore (tony and manu regressing etc..) and half the team are spot up shooter that needs wide open shots like Bonner
We have to find more 3 points shooter that can create their shots like Belineli and praying for either Parker coming back at his level or Kawhi becoming an elite playmaker over the summer
Get rid of them both. Pounding the is really grasping for content this time of year.
Time to sign Bertans...at a low price considering his rehabilitation time. Imho he's gonna be Bonner's replacement in time...with better shooting.
I mean, as a trade asset he can't have less NBA value. What do you get for him, a 2nd round pick in 2059?Ouch.
Sadly, it's true.Thanks a ing lot, Boylen. You bring this piece of trash in with you and forget about Kawhi on the bench.
Get rid of both. They're both terrible. Bonner is a monumentally better player than Ayres, and that doesn't say much for Bonner.
I don't get why people still fantasize about Bertans. Dude is constantly injured and will probably never come over anyways.
Yeah, the expectations for 5th and 6th bigs are a bit high on ST.
Boy just needs to get off the ethiopian diet he's on and pump some serious iron. Maybe some roids is the answer.
Please no more Bonner and Ayers!!
Pretty much.
It's not Ayres fault he's hated. It's not that people expect 14th men to be all-stars. But unfortunately, Ayres represented what could have been if the Spurs made smarter moves so hence the hate. Has nothing to do with him personally - it was the situation and the fact the Spurs missed opportunities for the luxury of paying someone like Ayres who isn't any good.
Only problem with this reasoning is that it can never be proved who the superior talent ("missed opportunities") would have been that would have agreed to terms (minimum salaries), location (San Antonio), and role (no minutes). Who was the "smarter move"? Even when borderline NBA players like Jamychal Green are offered a spot by cutting an end of the bench guy that wants to be here, and is accepting of that role (Daye in that case), Green balks at the offer for various reasons. And, that was Jamychal ing Green. Not exactly a proven commodity in the NBA, proper. Baynes, similarly, seemed to seriously consider walking for twice the pay as Daye, and probably Green, and a bigger role and slightly more money than Ayres. It is too easy to say that because Jeff is sitting on the end of our bench The Spurs somehow "missed an opportunity". This thread is worthless without pics of specific "missed opportunity" end of the bench "smarter move" talent that wanted to come here, make almost nothing (in NBA terms of course), and basically never play, but would have exceeded the contributions of the guys we had.
Of course, everyone wants to try their GM skills out and trot out a vet minimum name or their favorite sleeper undrafted FA, D league prospect, trade machine guy, etc, without any real knowledge of whether said guy would play here, or, inevitably, be worth a , being why he is available in the first place.
No way the team does anything with him until after free agency plays out. They control his rights and he likely wants more than the league minimum to come over, so would have to dip into one of the exceptions. If there's room then, maybe consider it.
If he had no plans of ever trying to come over, I doubt he'd spend this much time around the team and getting surgery in the U.S. Still, jury is still going to be out for a long time.
And even if he never comes over, still not a bad throw in in the Kawhi trade!
I get what you are saying, but that example is not applicable here. The rush to sign Ayres resulted in the loss of opportunity to sign someone worth more than the min. If it was just min player vs min player - I agree, who cares. But that's the entire point of my comment about Ayers. It wasn't just the player, but the opportunity lost because of his contract to sign someone worth more later.
You have a point but the Spurs still went on to win the chip that season.
What's with the like for Bonner? Seriously. It's like Stockholm Syndrome for the guy here.
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