The reality of the cap space - would Aldridge would cost too much

[Mal]

LMA takes little paycut, Green takes paycut, Duncan takes little paycut, Leonard takes little paycut, Ginobili takes little paycut and it all could work.

[Sean Cagney]

The analysis is wrong. If we bring back Duncan and Manu for the minimum (although one would get the Room Exception at $2.5m) and renounce everyone else, we'd have around $15m to spend. Dump Mills and we get just about to the $18m we need for Aldridge max.

The PtR article doesn't account for the fact that we'd be bringing them back with the Minimum Exception and not using cap space. I think they'll want more but if they'd accept the minimum then that's how we'd do it.

Duncan is getting alot more than the minimum though to be honest.

[Malik Hairston]

Duncan's contract is the most interesting storyline of this off season for the Spurs IMO, despite how strange that statement sounds..

If he's actually willing to take another substantial paycut in an effort to win once again, despite making all-NBA and having a great playoff round, it would be quite the gesture..

You can attempt to use the illogical argument of past earnings affecting a person's mindset, but losing millions is still losing millions, regardless of who you are, tbh..

[Agloco]

You can attempt to use the illogical argument of past earnings affecting a person's mindset, but losing millions is still losing millions, regardless of who you are, tbh..

It only illogical to those who don't have a good sense of scale or orders of magnitude.

That said.....lol minimum.

[Russ]

Duncan's contract is the most interesting storyline of this off season for the Spurs IMO, despite how strange that statement sounds..

If he's actually willing to take another substantial paycut in an effort to win once again, despite making all-NBA and having a great playoff round, it would be quite the gesture..

You can attempt to use the illogical argument of past earnings affecting a person's mindset, but losing millions is still losing millions, regardless of who you are, tbh..

10 million seems like a huge discount (already) for Duncan.

I don't see him taking less unless it's strictly his idea.

If I were the Spurs, I wouldn't mention any numbers less than 10.

[baseline bum]

I could Duncan taking $7 million, which would allow them to bring in Aldridge while keeping Green and Leonard if they can salary dump Splitter. But the bench will definitely be thin losing Ginobili, Joseph, and Bellinelli. I figure they could get Baynes back on a minimum deal though. Mills will have to play a ton of minutes and Kyle Anderson will get throw into the fire. I assume Manu's not coming back, he just doesn't sound like he is after Game 7. If he is coming back though I say Aldridge and try to sign a replacement for Bellinielli who can hopefully play some SF too with the MLE.

Aldridge is a risky scenario since any time they're left waiting is time Danny Green can go find a contract somewhere else. They can't sign Green before Aldridge without losing significant capspace since his cap hold is only about $6 million. Basically if Aldridge doesn't commit on Day 1, maybe Day 2, I think the Spurs have to move on to keep from losing Green. Because they'll have to find a way to salary dump Splitter, and Green would be a head to wait a week for offers so that the free agent market dries up. If the Spurs really think they can land LMA they might need to salary dump Splitter at the draft.

[DPG21920]

I think the Spurs know the market for DG and what they are willing to pay. I think the Spurs have such strong relationships, plus the fact they can pay DG more than anyone so I don't think that will be a huge issue. LA dragging things out is though.

[hater]

Green is gone imo. To Cle.

Marco might be gone too to better pastures. is a winner after all.

And all that is without even considering Manu or Lamar moves tbh

If Lamar or Gasol don't come and Manu doesn't retire. Might as well tank for the lottery cause this team has no prayer next year.

[Raven]

Duncan's contract is the most interesting storyline of this off season for the Spurs IMO, despite how strange that statement sounds..

If he's actually willing to take another substantial paycut in an effort to win once again, despite making all-NBA and having a great playoff round, it would be quite the gesture..

You can attempt to use the illogical argument of past earnings affecting a person's mindset, but losing millions is still losing millions, regardless of who you are, tbh..

he'd earn a minimum contract, not lose a contract he doesn't have.

[BillMc]

Green is gone imo. To Cle.

Marco might be gone too to better pastures. is a winner after all.

And all that is without even considering Manu or Lamar moves tbh

If Lamar or Gasol don't come and Manu doesn't retire. Might as well tank for the lottery cause this team has no prayer next year.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Cleveland can afford Green unless Love bolts.

[baseline bum]

Green is gone imo. To Cle.

Not in a million years, he'd have to take MLE, and I'm not even sure if Cleveland could have the full MLE since they'd be luxury tax repeaters.

[monkeypunk]

So hypothetically, if Gino and TD come back on vet mins, we max Kawhi and we talk Aldridge into a lower priced short deal to reup the next year on a max, how many of last years team can we realistically bring back? Assuming no Bonner, Ayres, Baynes or Cojo? Can we then keep Tiago, Bobo, Mills and DG?

Is it doable if Holt agrees to pay luxury tax this year?

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Lamarcus Aldridge is not coming to San Antonio.

[baseline bum]

So hypothetically, if Gino and TD come back on vet mins, we max Kawhi and we talk Aldridge into a lower priced short deal to reup the next year on a max, how many of last years team can we realistically bring back? Assuming no Bonner, Ayres, Baynes or Cojo? Can we then keep Tiago, Bobo, Mills and DG?

Is it doable if Holt agrees to pay luxury tax this year?

Might as well just hope LeBron opts out and comes here for minimum.

[Raven]

let's just give up and move on with cojo and green on board.

[monkeypunk]

let's just give up and move on with cojo and green on board.

I'm actually okay with bringing the whole team back minus Bonner and Ayres but it doesn't appear that PATFO is. IMO, we were a Splitter and TP injury away from playing GS right now and I'd like our chances if we were fully healthy.

[Maddog]

So hypothetically, if Gino and TD come back on vet mins, we max Kawhi and we talk Aldridge into a lower priced short deal to reup the next year on a max, how many of last years team can we realistically bring back? Assuming no Bonner, Ayres, Baynes or Cojo? Can we then keep Tiago, Bobo, Mills and DG?

Is it doable if Holt agrees to pay luxury tax this year?

Holt has paid it before and might be willing to do it short term

Lamarcus Aldridge is not coming to San Antonio.

When you look at the mechanistics to get it done salary wise it looks unlikely- much less does he wish to come here
It will be an interesting summer- however I'm not overly optimistic as I think the Spurs have less realistic flexibility than is thought

[baseline bum]

I'm actually okay with bringing the whole team back minus Bonner and Ayres but it doesn't appear that PATFO is. IMO, we were a Splitter and TP injury away from playing GS right now and I'd like our chances if we were fully healthy.

I think they can upgrade on Bellinelli but I'd bring everyone else back if Aldridge isn't happening. Well, except for Ayres. I really don't see Manu returning though, nothing about what he has said since elimination makes it sound like he's returning. At least nothing of what I have heard in the interviews on spurs.com and on the local tv stations. CoJo might end up being too expensive too since Green is going to command a nice contract, and of course Leonard is getting a max extension unless he signs a one year deal.

[Dex]

Yeah, it really seems to me that the only way the Spurs can realistically afford Aldridge is to sacrifice some core pieces of the team. I personally think he'd fit in great here, but I don't think he's worth giving up three-out-of-four of Green, Splitter, Mills, and Diaw.

[BatManu20]

LMA to Dallas or stays in Portland imo. Danny won't go to CLE unless he signs for dirt cheap. They can't afford him, especially if they want to retain Tristan Thompson who's playing himself int o a big contract right now.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, it really seems to me that the only way the Spurs can realistically afford Aldridge is to sacrifice some core pieces of the team. I personally think he'd fit in great here, but I don't think he's worth giving up three-out-of-four of Green, Splitter, Mills, and Diaw.

It's doable if Tim takes a paycut to about $7 million or so and they salary dump Splitter, assuming Holt will pay a $1.50 per $1.00 luxury tax for a year and assuming Manu retires. They may need to salary dump their first round pick too though. But they'd still be able to keep Leonard + Green + Diaw + Mills. Joseph would be renounced, and so would Bellinelli, Baynes, Ayres, and Bonner.

[BatManu20]

When it's all said and done, Spurs will more than likely bring back most of the same guys, minus one or two like Ayers and Bonner, + the draft pick.

[DPG21920]

Holt has paid it before and might be willing to do it short term




When you look at the mechanistics to get it done salary wise it looks unlikely- much less does he wish to come here
It will be an interesting summer- however I'm not overly optimistic as I think the Spurs have less realistic flexibility than is thought

No one knows what flexibility the Spurs have at the moment. It could end up being much more than we thought if Tim takes a low contract. It's really up in the air right now. But with Pop's comments about changing things up, it definitely seems like things will be different.

[DPG21920]

The only people the Spurs may need replacement for are Patty/Manu/Beli/Ayres/Bonner/Cory/Baynes

I'm not counting Boris or Tiago since they would be gone for LA so they would be replaced (hopefully it's Boris gone - I love him, but I love Tiago more).

Ayres/Bonner are quite easily replaced because they play such limited roles anyways and there are a lot of good prospects. Spurs have Kyle Anderson to fill a role as well. Spurs will also have a first round pick (at least one) to replace a spot. So really the question is, is LA worth having to find replacements for Patty/Manu/Beli/Cory/Baynes assuming you have Kyle who might fill a role and 1st round pick to start with?

That's 5 bench spots to fill with Kyle Anderson, the 26th pick & either the MLE (if Spurs are willing to pay luxury tax) or min contracts.

[DPG21920]

And for the triple post for finale - if anyone is asking me my own answer to that question? I say absolutely.

If someone said you could essentially trade Manu/Patty/Cory/Beli/Baynes/Bonner/Ayres for LaMarcus/26th Pick/Kyle Anders (and possibly an MLE level player) no one would ever say no to that.