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[DPG21920]

Ok... Lebron is by far one of the worst finals performers there is. In his first 8 appearances he never even reached his scoring average in one game. James just recently lost in the finals to the exact same team that the Clippers bounced in the first round.

This is just so dumb, but it's the weekend so I'ma let this go

[Buddy Mignon]

Can you imagine LeBron shooting under 40% for a Finals and his team still winning it all? That's why a championship is a team accomplishment not an individual one. LeBron has played better in losing efforts than Kirby did in '10, he just didn't have great players alongside him to help him shoulder the load like Kirby did.

Hey man... no offense but I don't talk basketball with mexicans. If you wanna talk kick ball or hand ball then, ok.

[FkLA]

Hey man... no offense but I don't talk basketball with mexicans. If you wanna talk kick ball or hand ball then, ok.

LeBron >>> Kirby

[Alex's foreskin]

LOL you guys would slurp the white coming off Lebron's penis if the opportunity presented itself

LeBron stans

[Phillip]

With the exception of the Cavs, who wouldn't 1-7 in the West beat in the East?

Not sure anyone other than GS beats Cleveland. No way Dallas beats Atlanta. Healthy Chicago could give several of the west teams some trouble too.

[Malik Hairston]

Not sure anyone other than GS beats Cleveland. No way Dallas beats Atlanta. Healthy Chicago could give several of the west teams some trouble too.

If healthy with Love and Irving at 100%, maybe, but this current Cavs team would get slaughtered by the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers and even the Grizzlies IMO..

The West wasn't as good as it usually is, this year, with Portland and Dallas playing at 50%, though..

[Malik Hairston]

I was going to mention that Lebron's coach doesn't even understand how to use timeouts in the NBA, but there probably isn't much of a difference between him and Phil Jackson, tbh..

[baseline bum]

They were 7th at the break.

Maybe so, then the stat I was thinking of was that they were 22-30, so on pace for 35 wins. They finished with 37. Either way that's the #10 seed.

[Tuddy]

Except Dragic missed 56 games, Whiteside 34, Wade 20 & Deng 10.

[DAF86]

Did Bosh have a serious injury that ended his season before? The Heat were in the playoff race before he went down. And at Deng being considered elite. He played pretty terrible defense this year. (DRting = 109) Dragic only played in 26 games. And his defense was worse than Deng's. (110)

The are you arguing? You know damn well that Heat team that didn't make the playoffs this season would be 2 games away from the finals had Lebron stayed on Miami.

[SpurSwag]

Say what you want about the ty east, but the Cavs have probably had the toughest route possible of teams in the East to have realistically face. Boston was the toughest team he could have seen at the 7 with the exception of Miami with Bosh healthy, but that obviously didn't pan out. The Bulls with D. Rose weren't a push over at all and were considered by many to be a legitimate le contender when clicking on all cylinders, but again they just seemed to somewhat fall apart. And this Hawks team was lauded as Spurs East and won 60 games, though they may not be living up to that expectation right now. I will be extremely impressed if they ring, but I really can't see them getting more than 2 against GSW

[Malik Hairston]

Man, you guys realize this Heat team that had Dragic/Wade/Whiteside/Deng all playing was tied with the below .500 Celtics and Nets in the final 2 weeks weeks of the season, all their guys were healthy, and they still couldn't make the playoffs..you can cite earlier injuries all you want, but they were tied with those teams down the stretch and had all their guys, yet they still couldn't beat out those 2 terrible teams for a playoff spot in the weakest East since 2004..do you realize how pathetic that is?

[DAF86]

I mean, Matthew Dellavedova, Jr Smith, Iman Shumpert, Tristan Thompson and Timofei Mozgov. Those are the guys that Lebron is taking to the NBA finals.

[Phillip]

If healthy with Love and Irving at 100%, maybe, but this current Cavs team would get slaughtered by the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers and even the Grizzlies IMO..

The West wasn't as good as it usually is, this year, with Portland and Dallas playing at 50%, though..

Healthy Love and Irving at 100% means Cavs dominate anyone out of the West.

Without Love and Irving not 100%, they still have a legit shot to win it all. Rockets or Clippers even being in the convo

[Malik Hairston]

Say what you want about the ty east, but the Cavs have probably had the toughest route possible of teams in the East to have realistically face. Boston was the toughest team he could have seen at the 7 with the exception of Miami with Bosh healthy, but that obviously didn't pan out. The Bulls with D. Rose weren't a push over at all and were considered by many to be a legitimate le contender when clicking on all cylinders, but again they just seemed to somewhat fall apart. And this Hawks team was lauded as Spurs East and won 60 games, though they may not be living up to that expectation right now. I will be extremely impressed if they ring, but I really can't see them getting more than 2 against GSW

Nah bro, I defend Lebron as much as anybody outside of a few people here, and I'll admit that their road has been extremely easy..a bad Celtics team, an average Bulls team that was missing Gasol for 2 games, and the Hawks that are banged up and haven't looked like a great team since January..

Still impressive considering he's doing it without Love and Irving, but ya, path is easy..

[Phillip]

Also, while I believe the West > East, I don't think the East is nearly as weak as people are making it out to be, and the West hasn't been nearly as strong as people are making it out to be.

[djohn2oo8]

Man, you guys realize this Heat team that had Dragic/Wade/Whiteside/Deng all playing was tied with the below .500 Celtics and Nets in the final 2 weeks weeks of the season, all their guys were healthy, and they still couldn't make the playoffs..you can cite earlier injuries all you want, but they were tied with those teams down the stretch and had all their guys, yet they still couldn't beat out those 2 terrible teams for a playoff spot in the weakest East since 2004..do you realize how pathetic that is?

Says alot about the guys they added.

[Malik Hairston]

Imagine Lebron's team being down by 20 to the Clippers in a must-win playoff game and completing a 20-point comeback on the road while he's on the bench for the entirety of the run..would never happen..

[djohn2oo8]

The are you arguing? You know damn well that Heat team that didn't make the playoffs this season would be 2 games away from the finals had Lebron stayed on Miami.

What legit compe ion in the East is there? Of course you can say that.

[Phillip]

It's all the LeBron show in Cleveland, so yeah without him they'd probably miss the playoffs. Great players have a way in motivating their teammates. LeBron didn't have that in the 2007 Finals vs Spurs. He didn't have it in the 2011 Finals vs Dallas. It was after that he became a leader. He did learn in Miami how to lead a team and it's showing with this Cavs team. However the 2014 Spurs team last season was like lightning in a bottle, nothing was gonna stop it, not even LeBron James.

hi got ashraf

[djohn2oo8]

Imagine Lebron's team being down by 20 to the Clippers in a must-win playoff game and completing a 20-point comeback on the road while he's on the bench for the entirety of the run..would never happen..

Imagine the East having actual compe ion.

[Phillip]

Imagine Lebron's team being down by 20 to the Clippers in a must-win playoff game and completing a 20-point comeback on the road while he's on the bench for the entirety of the run..would never happen..

to be fair, 999/1000 that wouldn't have happened for Houston either. That was literally a once-in-a-lifetime type of occurrence for those guys to pull that off.

Either that, or extreme choking to the point that even the Lakers this year could have pulled that comeback off.

One or the other.

[djohn2oo8]

to be fair, 999/1000 that wouldn't have happened for Houston either. That was literally a once-in-a-lifetime type of occurrence for those guys to pull that off.

Either that, or extreme choking to the point that even the Lakers this year could have pulled that comeback off.

One or the other.

Yep.

[Malik Hairston]

Imagine the East having actual compe ion.

For all your complaints about Mchale, at least he knows how timeouts work in the NBA..

[djohn2oo8]

For all your complaints about Mchale, at least he knows how timeouts work in the NBA..

You mean the same McHale who lets teams go on 23-0 runs without taking a timeout? Ok.