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    If Iraq with $50B+ of US training and equipment can't defend its own "country", I say " 'em", no more dead, maimed, destroyed US military.

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    Thanks Obama. We'll be thanking Obama for decades.
    yep, Ms of Americans thank Obama now for giving them access to health care. The Repugs and the Repug SCOTUS5 can still it up, and I'm sure they will, sooner or later.

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    yep, Ms of Americans thank Obama now for giving them access to health care. The Repugs and the Repug SCOTUS5 can still it up, and I'm sure they will, sooner or later.
    Mmmmm. I hope it's sooner.

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    Dude, where’s my Humvee? Iraq losing equipment to Islamic State at staggering rate

    Iraqi security forces lost 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles when Islamic State overran the northern city of Mosul in June 2014, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Sunday in an interview with Iraqiya state television. Coupled with previous losses of American weapons, the conclusion is simple: The United States is effectively supplying Islamic State with tools of war the militant group cannot otherwise hope to acquire from its patrons.

    In addition to the Humvees, Iraqi forces previously abandoned significant types and numbers of heavy weapons to Islamic State.

    For example, losses to Islamic State include

    at least
    40 M1A1main battle tanks,

    as well as small arms and ammunition,

    including
    74,000 machine guns, and

    as many as
    52 M198 howitzer mobile gun systems.

    “We lost a lot of weapons,” Abadi
    admitted.


    To help replenish Iraq’s motor pool, the U.S. State Department last year approved a sale to Iraq of 1,000 Humvees, along with their armor upgrades, machine guns and grenade launchers. The United States previously donated 250 Mine Resistant Armored Personnel carriers (MRAPs) to Iraq, plus unaccountable amounts of material left behind when American forces departed in 2011. The United States is currently in the process of moving to Iraq 175 M1A1 Abrams main battle tanks, 55,000 rounds of main tank-gun ammunition, $600 million in howitzers and trucks, $700 million worth of fire missiles and 2,000 AT-4 rockets.


    The fires and AT-4′s, anti-tank weapons, are presumably going to be used to help destroy the American armor in the hands of Islamic State.

    The United States is also conducting air strikes to destroy weapons seized by Islamic State.

    It’s a surreal state of affairs in which American weaponry is being sent into Iraq to destroy American weaponry previously sent into Iraq.

    If a new sequel to Catch-22 were to be written, this would be the plot line.


    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...ut-of-control/

    Thanks for the insanity, Repugs!



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    This whole putting up with Iraqs bull does not pass the smell test.
    It's like either pull out and let ISIS reign or make it the 51st state and blow the f out of ISIS.

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    It's gonna be Iran controlling 2/3 of Iraq and ISIL getting the rest. Iran will get most of the oil fields.

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    It's gonna be Iran controlling 2/3 of Iraq and ISIL getting the rest. Iran will get most of the oil fields.
    Clairvoyant cowboy

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    Clairvoyant cowboy
    If you can't see that end game you are just plain dumb.

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    If you can't see that end game you are just plain dumb.
    Just tell me the last time any single one of your predictions were correct.

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    Make your prediction big mouth.

    Put that pea brain to work.

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    Hussein blocked Iran. We broke it and didn't fix it. Iran and ISIL will fill the vacuum.

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    Why can't (won't) US partner up with Iran to oust ISIS?
    Jewbobs?

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    Make your prediction big mouth.

    Put that pea brain to work.
    Predicting what's going to happen in the Middle East is a fools errand. The region is wildly complex and your take is overly simplistic. Explain to me how you come to the irrefutable conclusion the Shias get the oilfields?

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    Predicting what's going to happen in the Middle East is a fools errand. The region is wildly complex and your take is overly simplistic. Explain to me how you come to the irrefutable conclusion the Shias get the oilfields?


    Just quit before you really prove how stupid you are.

    Try looking at a map of Iraqi oil fields.

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    Just quit before you really prove how stupid you are.

    Try looking at a map of Iraqi oil fields.
    So Kurds are irrelevant?

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    The primary oil fields are south of Baghdad and the Kurds are in the north. Should have quit.
    Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 06-05-2015 at 07:00 AM.

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    The primary oil fields are south of Baghdad and the Jura are in the north. Should have quit.
    A fools errand

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    From the bottom of my heart, THANKS, REPUGS!

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    The primary oil fields are south of Baghdad and the Kurds are in the north. Should have quit.
    so there aren't any super giant oilfields in the Kurdish region of Iraq?

    You're literally just talking out of your ass.

    So what exactly happens to the Kurds in this new Iran/Isis region clairvoyant cowboy?

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    so there aren't any super giant oilfields in the Kurdish region of Iraq?

    You're literally just talking out of your ass.

    So what exactly happens to the Kurds in this new Iran/Isis region clairvoyant cowboy?
    I didn't say there weren't any oil fields in the north but the big ones are in the south. As for the northern iSIL controlled oil fields and facilities (especially in Syria) we are already blowing them up.

    As for the Kurds...well, it sucks to be a Kurd. We won't actively support them, Jordan doesn't want them and ISIL will gradually wipe them out.

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    Why the US can’t fix the Middle East’s problems, in one quote

    "In Iraq, the U.S. intervened and occupied, and the result was a costly disaster.

    In Libya, the U.S. intervened and did not occupy, and the result was a costly disaster.

    In Syria, the U.S. neither intervened nor occupied, and the result is a costly disaster."

    http://www.vox.com/2015/6/4/8729085/america-middle-east-quote

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    NPR had a couple or three that seemed to be in the know ranking types.
    It did not turn into a Demon vs Repug partisan time waster.

    The one guy commented that corruption in the high ranking Iraqi Army is huge.
    Those kuuunts withold pay from soldiers, on and on.
    So they said it is no surprise when the Iraqi soldiers turned and ran away from ISIS because the mentality is why should i fight for some corrupt rip off.
    Total chaos.

    US needs to make it 51st state or turn it over to Iran.
    Iraqi Army is never gonna do .

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    The Iraqi Army, esp the Republican Guard, and Iraq were stable, as was the entire middle east, until ....

    Thanks, Repugs and Big US/UK Oil!

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    bouts are we really supposed to believe the Big Oil demons are not sucking oil out of the Mid East left and right?

    What is the latest?

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