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"retiring" is much too kind of you. He was thrown out for a year.
if he didnt retire...is rockets less 2 rings or DK will be 3-2 or 5 straight rings?
ppl talk about brons 5 straight finals appearances...which could end up being 3-2 or 2-3
what was jordans record like h2h against hakeem anyway...
"retiring" is much too kind of you. He was thrown out for a year.
8 les in a row, easy. GOAT couldn't be stopped in his prime, unlike some balding cuck who switches teams to ride coattails to the Finals in the easy conference.
I can just buy that he stepped away from the game for a while and used baseball as an alibi to explain why he was leaving. His dad died only a month before his first retirement, I'd imagine one way or another (personal reasoning or pressure from the NBA, if not both) he wouldn't want that cloud hanging over his head, as he was already, arguably, the most publicized and pressured person on the planet. He, and the NBA as well, probably didn't want to deal with questions over his gambling, gambling debts and the shady characters who he dealt with and the ones who killed his father. When it all died down some, he stopped pretending to like baseball and became emotionally healed, then came back to the NBA.
As for the OP, remember that not only did the Bulls have trouble with the Rockets in the 90's but the Bulls had to retool their roster. Virtually the only similarity between the first 3-peat Bulls and second was the coach and top two stars. Horace Grant but no Jordan in '94. Jordan, but no Grant in '95 (he was on the team that eliminated in '95).
They stomp the Rockets in 94, but even if they keep Grant I don't see them beating the 95 Rockets with Drexler on board.
They'd have had to get past the Knicks and Pacers. One thing that people don't factor in is that they played a lot of basketball from 1989-1993. Jordan and Pippen played 3-4 rounds of the playoffs each year and a Summer Olympic Games. That's a lot of wear and tear and it would have added up more had they played yet another 3 rounds to get to the 1994 NBA Finals against a nemesis.
Grant was fed up with the Bulls at that point. He hated Jordan, who was treating him as a whipping boy, and felt disrespected by management for the contract dispute.
Which means in 94 and 95, there wouldn't be anyone guarding Hakeem. Hakeem went off for 35ppg on Robinson, and 33ppg on Shaq and Grant doubles, he would average 45ppg vs. the Bulls.
The Bulls would likely be able to shut down the 3 pt shooters on the Rockets to a degree, but Pippen and Jordan can only cover so much ground, and the Rockets have 4 to 5 players who can take and nail open 3 pters.
Maxwell guarded Jordan reasonably well, but no one will be able to guard Pippen. In 95, Drexler will likely be on Pippen (he couldn't guard Jordan in his prime, forget about it in 95) and noone can guard Jordan.
That said, the Bulls usually struggle against teams with dominant bigs (pushed to 7 by the Ewing Knicks, couldn't contain Rik Smits), and the defenses back in the day weren't focused on stopping the 3.
I'd say the Bulls would have made it to the finals (the East wasn't that good), but ultimately fall to the Rockets.
Grant was still on the team in 94.
Hold on a sec,,,I'm gettin' my Brownie.
Is that when you have no more briefs that aren't stained?
No, that's when I get my Brownie Camera to snap a pic of Amb getting his wrong cherry.
Hakeem would have sprayed wet all over DK's overrated legacy, two years in a row.
My fault. That would apply to 95 then.
Regardless, Grant couldn't hold Hakeem under 35ppg even with Shaq doubling, Hakeem would still kill the Bulls front line.
95 maybe, 94 the team that almost lost to the Knicks in 7, NO.
Horrible logic, the '94 team was better than the '95 team. The '95 team got rolling late but that was in part due to the fact that the Magic got rattled after losing Game 1 the way they did. The '94 team was consistently good, other than losing the opening games of the series at home to the Suns and enduring the Choke City moniker.
Last edited by Caltex2; 05-27-2015 at 11:35 PM.
tee, hee.
Overjoyed with it, aren't you?
Would be nice if you actually had some sort of logical argument that would prove me wrong though.
Absolutely.
my nigghhhh tbh
The bum caught him. I was just pagin' thru the this morning when I spotted it.
the bum
it's always a joy to spot a kid with his hand in a bag of candies going for the steal tbh
the bum
Didn't know I broke you so bad that you have to resort to this.
I didn't mean it.
You didn't break me. I saw your need and acquiesced.
You acting like the Bulls who routinely owned the Knicks had no shot vs Houston sounds a little homerish to me, then again you are a Houston fan. The Bulls in that era were good enough to beat anyone, to say so is downplaying them.
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