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    ...with the deadliest month the city has seen in 15 years. 38 homicides and counting.

    https://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-res...083758282.html

    Where are all the cop haters to this ?

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    Yup. I predicted this would eventually occur but not so soon!

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    bu but this is also the cops fault.

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    Posted about this the other day in the lol Baltimore thread.

    More on it here, not just limited to Baltimore.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-...ave-1432938425

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    Posted about this the other day in the lol Baltimore thread.

    More on it here, not just limited to Baltimore.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-...ave-1432938425
    Sounds like a great reason to limit guns and let the military police the country.

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    an overwhelming majority of cops are good cops, don't be surprised when these guys say and leave the force in mass because they are afraid to do their jobs and the DOJ doesn't have their back. It'll get much worse and this administration is largely at fault. The inner cities felt discriminated against and wanted less policing and they got it. Enjoy.

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    Nothing but silence from the forum lib s, I see. But, but, the warrior cops are out of control!

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    an overwhelming majority of cops are good cops, don't be surprised when these guys say and leave the force in mass because they are afraid to do their jobs and the DOJ doesn't have their back. It'll get much worse and this administration is largely at fault. The inner cities felt discriminated against and wanted less policing and they got it. Enjoy.
    Seems like there are PLENTY of "bad" cops, see the 8 guys beating the out of Rodney King, and about the same number beating the out of that guy who escaped on horseback a couple weeks ago.

    if the good cops "took care of" the bad cops, and they good know who the bad are, then they could police AND have the confidence, respect, trust of the citizenry.

    And do you think the large number of endless reports and vids of "bad" cops are catching ONLY the bad cops? all the other cops are good apples?

    The DoJ investigation of Ferguson and Cleveland PDs found systemic abuses, multiple years, etc, etc, not only few bad apple cops.

    Albuquerque is another PD with a HUGE number of execution and absuses.

    Chicago PD had black site for torture, and that wasn't only one BAD cop.

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    Seems like there are PLENTY of "bad" cops, see the 8 guys beating the out of Rodney King, and about the same number beating the out of that guy who escaped on horseback a couple weeks ago.

    if the good cops "took care of" the bad cops, and they good know who the bad are, then they could police AND have the confidence, respect, trust of the citizenry.

    And do you think the large number of endless reports and vids of "bad" cops are catching ONLY the bad cops? all the other cops are good apples?

    The DoJ investigation of Ferguson and Cleveland PDs found systemic abuses, multiple years, etc, etc, not only few bad apple cops.

    Albuquerque is another PD with a HUGE number of execution and absuses.

    Chicago PD had black site for torture, and that wasn't only one BAD cop.
    Of course there are bad cops no one is denying that. The bad cop videos make the rounds on social media. A good cop doing his/her job is boring and gets no media attention. Are you claiming the majority of cops are bad? And why ignore the OP?

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    Boutons_shill with no answer to the OP... not even the usual "VRWC, BigCop conspiracy" spin.

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    Of course there are bad cops no one is denying that. The bad cop videos make the rounds on social media. A good cop doing his/her job is boring and gets no media attention. Are you claiming the majority of cops are bad? And why ignore the OP?
    I'm saying the bad cops being caught are a small fraction of the total bad cops.

    The good cops KNOW who are the bad cops, but do nothing.

    And they all know they can, if and when they want, get away with framing, brutalizing, executing innocent people, and that their fellow cops and prosecutors will protect them, almost PERFECT immunity.

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    The inner cities felt discriminated against and wanted less policing and they got it. Enjoy.
    Did the "inner cities" want less policing or were the protests for non-discriminatory policing?

    You understand there is a difference between the two, right?

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    Did the "inner cities" want less policing or were the protests for non-discriminatory policing?

    You understand there is a difference between the two, right?
    All policing is discriminatory to lib s.

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    I'm saying the bad cops being caught are a small fraction of the total bad cops.

    The good cops KNOW who are the bad cops, but do nothing.

    And they all know they can, if and when they want, get away with framing, brutalizing, executing innocent people, and that their fellow cops and prosecutors will protect them, almost PERFECT immunity.
    I asked you a direct question. Are you claiming there are more bad cops than good cops?

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    From the article:

    "Our officers tell me that when officers pull up, they have 30 to 50 people surrounding them at any time," Batts said.

    Batts provided more details at a City Council meeting Wednesday night, saying officers now fear getting arrested for making mistakes.

    "The criminals are taking advantage of the situation in Baltimore since the unrest," Ryan wrote. "(Police) are more afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs properly than they are of getting shot on duty."
    "But, but, they're only against bad policing, not all policing!"

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    Did the "inner cities" want less policing or were the protests for non-discriminatory policing?

    You understand there is a difference between the two, right?
    when an inner cities racial demographic is predominately black it seems tough to be non-discriminatory when the majority of crime there is committed by blacks. What you are seeing now is the police being non-discriminatory, how's that working out for the citizens?

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    When the DOJ and your own mayor throw you under the bus would you risk your life everyday to police a bunch of people who would cheer if you were killed?

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    when an inner cities racial demographic is predominately black it seems tough to be non-discriminatory when the majority of crime there is committed by blacks. What you are seeing now is the police being non-discriminatory, how's that working out for the citizens?
    it's not discrimination to arrest a black man committing a crime.

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    I asked you a direct question. Are you claiming there are more bad cops than good cops?
    no, but good cops protecting bad cops make those cops bad at least by association.

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    When the DOJ and your own mayor throw you under the bus would you risk your life everyday to police a bunch of people who would cheer if you were killed?
    I don't see it could be viewed that way. BPD has a history of excessive force. 100+ people were rewarded $5.7 million dollars payed out in the past four years [http://www.businessinsider.com/balti...wsuits-2015-4]


    One of these incidents finally blew up in their face. A guy who was illegally arrested was given a "rough ride" and had his spinal cord severed an later died.

    Thats the 3rd time that a person has been paralyzed in police custody and the others won settlements against the city.

    Its not an indictment against all police but against the one that clearly did some illegal .

    The BPD can't compain about the DOJ being in their business when the department has a history of violence.

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    it's not discrimination to arrest a black man committing a crime.
    it is when one that wasn't was killed in police custody. Illegal arrested and suffering a spinal cord injury and then dying. But cops are clean in that?

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    an overwhelming majority of cops are good cops, don't be surprised when these guys say and leave the force in mass because they are afraid to do their jobs and the DOJ doesn't have their back. It'll get much worse and this administration is largely at fault. The inner cities felt discriminated against and wanted less policing and they got it. Enjoy.
    Don't know how you arrived at "overwhelming majority. There are certainly good ones but they don't get credit for doing their job properly. But then there are the bad ones.

    Cops are just people who do a very difficult job its like saying the majority of people are good. Its objective and difficult or near impossible to prove.

    On the other hand we do know that there are certain departments where there are quite a few bad cops (NYPD, LAPD, Cleveland PD etc) that are costing tax payers incredible amounts of money to bail out their incompetence.

    Boston-$36 M, (2005-2015)
    Chicago $521 M 2004-2014
    Cleveland-$8.2 M 2004-2014

    LA. $101 M- (2002-2011)
    Oakland-$74 (1990-2014)
    New York-$348 M 2006-2011
    Philadelphia $40 m (2009-2014)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7423386.html

    From the New york Times:

    "it was not long before the dark side of this intervention emerged: Soon all black youth, not just the delinquent minority, were being profiled as criminals, all ghetto residents were being viewed and treated with disrespect and, increasingly, police tactics relied on the use of violence as a first resort.

    And yet it didn’t work, at least in one important respect: Although the black homicide rate has declined substantially, it still remains catastrophic, with blacks being murdered at eight times the national rate — and, among teens, it has been rising again since 2002."

    Thats a legit beef. Its not necessarily a police presence its the heavy handed, "everyone a criminal because they live here at ude" that they take issue with.

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    it's not discrimination to arrest a black man committing a crime.
    It doesn't sound like that is the case in these places anymore and that's what I'm getting at. When cops are being surrounded by angry mobs during a routine arrest it changes things as a simple stop now could blow up into something much worse. If they're attacked and have to defend themselves it's another storm protest and they've basically said it not worth the hassle. It sucks for all the good citizens that actually need their help getting these guys off the street but I can see why at some point for the cops it's no longer worth it.

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    good, em, and cops too.

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    ... and they've basically said it not worth the hassle.
    Then they're failing to do the job.

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