Clippers: Doc Rivers on Deandre Jordan/CP3, and choking 3-1 series

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tbf that high pnr that ran was extremely effective, even in the Houston series, they just stopped running it for whatever reason

That's always what happens with teams that spam the pnr. They looks great in the regular season, but in a 7 game series against another good team, the offense gets stagnant after the other team figures out how to defend it.

[Clipper Nation]

He just put up production in the playoffs unseen since Oscar in the '60s, but yeah, his only talent is jumping high. Meanwhile, people still make excuses for the second-round-virgin midget PG by claiming that nobody around him has talent.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I take it back only because I forgot how horrid the Clippers bench is.

that's far from it, the Clippers' starting lineup has several glaring holes that the Celtics didn't have, most notably the fact that Boston had two HOFers on the wing while the Clippers' starting wing players are completely reliant on the PG to create offense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He just put up production in the playoffs unseen since Oscar in the '60s, but yeah, his only talent is jumping high. Meanwhile, people still make excuses for the second-round-virgin midget PG by claiming that nobody around him has talent.

That's how it always is when a PG dominant team lose, the apologists are out in full force for the PG and always blame the talent around him.

[dg7md]

That 3-1 choke could have happened to anybody tbh, I don't see why you'd blow up the core of the team seeing how far they went in the playoffs. DeAndre is worth a lot of money if you consider his value as a legitimate 5 today. They need Jordan back if they want to go back to the WCF.

Yeah the Clippers need a bench but, what could Rivers possibly say? They were one good quarter away from the NBA Finals and dethroning us in a great series. I respected the Clips in the series we were in and I wish them luck in the future.

[baseline bum]

The current Clips are every bit as talented as the '08 Celts.

[baseline bum]

That's always what happens with teams that spam the pnr. They looks great in the regular season, but in a 7 game series against another good team, the offense gets stagnant after the other team figures out how to defend it.

04 Spurs a classic example

[Clipper Nation]

That's how it always is when a PG dominant team lose, the apologists are out in full force for the PG and always blame the talent around him.

And nobody ever questions the PG for playing completely passive in big games and forcing the ball to that " ty talent," either. Which is what Choke Paul did from the start of the 4th quarter in Game 6 all the way up until garbage time in Game 7, outside of a couple possessions here and there.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And nobody ever questions the PG for playing completely passive in big games and forcing the ball to that " ty talent," either. Which is what Choke Paul did from the start of the 4th quarter in Game 6 all the way up until garbage time in Game 7, outside of a couple possessions here and there.

Truth. Don't get me wrong, I still thing Shawn Marion is a lazy emo got who should have learned how to shoot a basketball with proper form, but one of Nash's patented moves with the SSOL Suns was dribbling around for 20 seconds and then passing it Marion with no time left so he'd have to chuck something up, and everyone would always blame Marion.

[Caltex2]

No seriously, without his jumping ability, what does he have? He doesn't have great footwork, decent but not great. He's not a great shooter, decent but only if left wide open which he usually is. He's not a dangerous FT shooter, ok but not great. He passes the ball well, that's about it. Sure he's effective because he's a better athlete than most people he's playing against. He can run faster, jump higher, more powerful on the block, and he's a smart player. He's not talented though. Most bigs aren't talented except in comparison to the bumbling idiots that those non-NBA bigs are.

That's like saying Shaq wasn't that good when you take away his size and power. Despite his numerous flaws, he was one of the most effective and intimidating forces the game has ever seen, which is saying something considering he didn't put the work in to maximize his potential (look at him slugging along some years with the Heat and Lakers as opposed to diving in the stands as a Sun).

Anyways, you can't take away what makes Griffin effective as nothing.

that's far from it, the Clippers' starting lineup has several glaring holes that the Celtics didn't have, most notably the fact that Boston had two HOFers on the wing while the Clippers' starting wing players are completely reliant on the PG to create offense.

But, with all due respect to Rondo, they don't have CP3 at PG. Say what you want about his playoff failures but he's one of the best PG's of the last 25 years.

[DMC]

He just put up production in the playoffs unseen since Oscar in the '60s, but yeah, his only talent is jumping high. Meanwhile, people still make excuses for the second-round-virgin midget PG by claiming that nobody around him has talent.

So what are his talents? How many times do I need to ing ask you, gook?

[DMC]

That's like saying Shaq wasn't that good when you take away his size and power. Despite his numerous flaws, he was one of the most effective and intimidating forces the game has ever seen, which is saying something considering he didn't put the work in to maximize his potential (look at him slugging along some years with the Heat and Lakers as opposed to diving in the stands as a Sun).

Anyways, you can't take away what makes Griffin effective as nothing.



But, with all due respect to Rondo, they don't have CP3 at PG. Say what you want about his playoff failures but he's one of the best PG's of the last 25 years.

Shaq wasn't that good when you take away his size and power. Those aren't talents. Stop moving the goalposts. What are Blake's talents?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

But, with all due respect to Rondo, they don't have CP3 at PG. Say what you want about his playoff failures but he's one of the best PG's of the last 25 years.

preemptively mentioning his playoff failures before anyone else has the chance to so you can minimize them.
implying that CP3 as a starter somehow cancels out having KG, Pierce and Allen (three players who each led dog led teams to the conference finals)

[Caltex2]

preemptively mentioning his playoff failures before anyone else has the chance to so you can minimize them.
implying that CP3 as a starter somehow cancels out having KG, Pierce and Allen (three players who each led dog led teams to the conference finals)

The Clippers have three really good starters like the C's old teams did. They have a solid foundation and shouldn't give up on it just yet. And yes, the Clippers should have beaten the Rockets. They dominated that series except for 10 quarters (2 1/2 games).

[Caltex2]

Shaq wasn't that good when you take away his size and power. Those aren't talents. Stop moving the goalposts. What are Blake's talents?

Just imagine if Shaq could hit his free throws at a 65-75% clip. That alone would have changed how effective he could have been and how coaches would have had to play him in late game situations. He may have won 10 les instead of just 4.

[313]

That's always what happens with teams that spam the pnr. They looks great in the regular season, but in a 7 game series against another good team, the offense gets stagnant after the other team figures out how to defend it.

I can't find the stat atm (on my phone) so I suppose you'll have to take my word for it but the Clippers ran that high double pnr 7 or 8 times and score every time except once in game 7 vs the Rockets.

[Clipper Nation]

So what are his talents? How many times do I need to ing ask you, gook?

Try watching him play for once, balloon hands.

[DMC]

Try watching him play for once, balloon hands.

So you cannot describe his talents. Just like your PG, you can't finish what you start.