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    Well, he's got no baggage as far as Media is concerned, that's for damned sure.
    That's what happens when all you do is win and not rape.

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    And they're(Media) going to fall back to whom?
    James. They didn't abandon him after last season. The "Heat Index" went away, because it was the "Lebron James Tracker" truth be told. Now he's back in Cleveland, that's where the new Mecca will be. Miami is once again a third world country.

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    Or, your 1st 5th for that matter.
    Or your registration date.

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    Or your registration date.

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    That's what happens when all you do is win and not rape.
    Even covers win & losing the same NBA le and having your wife out you in the middle of the win & losing of same. But, Media wanted absolutely no part in that. Thank Christ, Media don't run this little burg.

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    Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!

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    Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!
    No, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do:::say it again, mother er and forever more Splits is " s."

    Try me.

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    Even covers win & losing the same NBA le and having your wife out you in the middle of the win & losing of same. But, Media wanted absolutely no part in that. Thank Christ, Media don't run this little burg.
    And not winning a ing thing, in your case.

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    No, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do:::say it again, mother er and forever more Splits is " s."

    Try me.

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    Just watch your in' mouth.

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    Just watch your in' mouth.
    Meet me at room 35. I'll watch your in' mouth.

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    GOATs don't get swept in the finals

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    If MJ didn't "retire",,,,he wins 8 in a row,,,,game over.
    MJ would have played a lot of basketball by the time 1994 and '95 came along (both in the playoffs and Olympics). He needed to both recharge his batteries playing a less cardio-aerobic sport and let the Bulls be rebuilt, there was no Horace Grant in 1995. As a matter of fact, the entire roster was different from 1993 to '96 except DK, Pippen and Colonel Sanders.

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    GOATs don't get swept in the finals
    The 2007 Cavs may have been the worst team to ever advance to the Finals (maybe the 2002 Nets were worse). Even the 40-42 Rockets of 1981 had multiple Hall of Famers and did some serious heavy lifting in the playoffs (though they got a break in the conference finals).

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    MJ would have played a lot of basketball by the time 1994 and '95 came along (both in the playoffs and Olympics). He needed to both recharge his batteries playing a less cardio-aerobic sport and let the Bulls be rebuilt, there was no Horace Grant in 1995. As a matter of fact, the entire roster was different from 1993 to '96 except DK, Pippen and Colonel Sanders.
    not to mention that Rockets team matched up well with the Bulls

    They pretty much pwned them

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    Yeah but so did the Jazz over the years and the Bulls still dispatched them two years in a row.

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    Yeah but so did the Jazz over the years and the Bulls still dispatched them two years in a row.
    The Jazz didnt really match up well against them the way the Rox did

    And for some reason, Mad Max played well vs MJ

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    GOATs don't get swept in the finals
    You are both right and wrong with this assessment. The 2007 Cavaliers were a joke and LeBron carried them to that place, single-handedly winning the series against Detroit. You can't hold 2007 against him because we were also a dominating team that nobody stood a chance against (aside from the Mavs, of course).

    However, 2011 is completely on him. Nothing else is, 2014 they just got dismantled by a better team (us), and LeBron is lucky Ray Allen saved him the year prior, otherwise he'd be in some trouble historically.

    Jordan is the GOAT, LeBron would have to win 7 Finals to dethrone him, and while it's possible, it's not likely at this point in his career. LeBron will be underneath Magic as far as history is concerned, because his individual stats, while far greater than the majority of those of MJ, Magic, Bird, etc., do not always translate to GOAT status; usually championships will decide the rankings of greatest ever, and Jordan's 6-0 in the Finals and the fact he hit a lot of the big shots will always be attached to him and will be nearly impossible to top, even if LeBron gets to 7. That 6-0 undefeated streak in the Finals is, even if it's not technically, is better than going 6-1 in the Finals in terms of their placement in history.

    LeBron was NEVER supposed to BE Jordan. He was always the next Magic Johnson, but the media force-fed everyone this Jordan comparison and thus he got stuck to it and there's no way out now, despite the fact he is more of a distributor than a player who takes over games himself. Kobe is really the only comparison to Jordan one can make, and clearly Jordan is superior, although Kobe has impressive stats of his own.
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    The Jazz didnt really match up well against them the way the Rox did

    And for some reason, Mad Max played well vs MJ
    The regular season is the regular season. The Rockets would have matched up better than any team in that era but it guarantees nothing. The Rockets would have lost in 6, like everyone else minus the Lakers, is my feeling.

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    The regular season is the regular season. The Rockets would have matched up better than any team in that era but it guarantees nothing. The Rockets would have lost in 6, like everyone else minus the Lakers, is my feeling.
    Weird arguing with a Rockets fan on this, but the Rockets would beat the Bulls in 94, I am not sure about 95, but I wouldn't bet against it either.

    Some of the reasons are:
    - The Bulls were running on fumes by the end of 93.
    - The Bulls generally struggle against teams with all-star bigs. Rik Smits stretched them to 7 games, Ewing was their biggest adversary in the East for a few years, Shawn Kemp dominated them in 96. Hakeem would absolutely dismantle the Bulls.
    - Mad Max is the only person up there in terms of the craziness scale with Ron Artest/MWP and Rodman, and it takes a crazy person to really go after Jordan. The Rockets version of the Maxwell actually played well against Jordan. Sure Jordan can annihilate a prime Drexler, but Mad max is crazy.
    - The 91 Bulls were great/decent in 3pt defense, they were horrible in 93, the Rockets will light them up from outside

    Pippen is really the only person I see the Rockets having problems over, as the Rockets don't really have anyone to match up with him, and Pippen, for some reason, doesn't really get affected much by dominating defensive bigs.

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    Yeah, I'm generally on the other side of this argument but there's no guarantee. The Rockets would have been ready but so would have been the Bulls. All those All-Star bigs LOST to the Bulls with the exception of Shaq, when the Bulls were between having Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman.

    It'd have been fun to see but we'll never know. One other thing I did wish would have happened was that scheduled pay-per-view one-on-one game between Shaq and Hakeem that got cancelled because Hakeem got hurt. Gotta love the NBA in the 90's.
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    If MJ didn't "retire",,,,he wins 8 in a row,,,,game over.
    Your damn right, people on here hating now and saying this or that are full of . I guess heads forgot or some kids posting in here who did not see MJ play during those le runs TBH. He was that good.
    Weird arguing with a Rockets fan on this, but the Rockets would beat the Bulls in 94, I am not sure about 95, but I wouldn't bet against it either.

    Some of the reasons are:
    - The Bulls were running on fumes by the end of 93.
    - The Bulls generally struggle against teams with all-star bigs. Rik Smits stretched them to 7 games, Ewing was their biggest adversary in the East for a few years, Shawn Kemp dominated them in 96. Hakeem would absolutely dismantle the Bulls.
    - Mad Max is the only person up there in terms of the craziness scale with Ron Artest/MWP and Rodman, and it takes a crazy person to really go after Jordan. The Rockets version of the Maxwell actually played well against Jordan. Sure Jordan can annihilate a prime Drexler, but Mad max is crazy.
    - The 91 Bulls were great/decent in 3pt defense, they were horrible in 93, the Rockets will light them up from outside

    Pippen is really the only person I see the Rockets having problems over, as the Rockets don't really have anyone to match up with him, and Pippen, for some reason, doesn't really get affected much by dominating defensive bigs.
    So the Rockets would not have problems over Jordan? Pippen I agree on but when focused in the finals nobody could stop Jordan, he raised it to another level and then some every finals he went to. He was a problem.


    BTW how are some so sure on 94 when the Knicks were up 3-2 in that series and easily could have won it? How are the Rockets a sure fire to beat the Bulls in 94 if the Knicks took it 7games?
    The regular season is the regular season. The Rockets would have matched up better than any team in that era but it guarantees nothing. The Rockets would have lost in 6, like everyone else minus the Lakers, is my feeling.
    I agree with you 100% on this one.
    not to mention that Rockets team matched up well with the Bulls

    They pretty much pwned them
    Just like the Thunder did the Spurs of last year and Portland did for the Spurs over the last 7 years or so record wise during the season (Best record overall vs. the Spurs for those years if I am correct), we see what happened in the playoffs though when they met. Regular season completely different.
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    The Rox and Knicks played similar styles and were evenly matched. Meanwhile, the Rockets were a bad matchup for the Bulls though I still see the Bulls pulling through in 6.

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    Yeah, I'm generally on the other side of this argument but there's no guarantee. The Rockets would have been ready but so would have been the Bulls. All those All-Star bigs LOST to the Bulls with the exception of Shaq, when the Bulls were between having Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman.

    It'd have been fun to see but we'll never know. One other thing I did wish would have happened was that scheduled pay-per-view one-on-one game between Shaq and Hakeem that got cancelled because Hakeem got hurt. Gotta love the NBA in the 90's.
    Throughout his career, Hakeem pretty much had his way when facing against Rodman, and did pretty well against Grant. And those all-star bigs weren't Hakeem. Hakeem is a few levels above Ewing and another few more than Rik Smits. The thing is, the East was pretty weak back then. The only good compe ion Jordan had was Knicks and Pacers, then later Heat and Magic (maybe Charlotte for a few years). While, the West had the Rockets, Sonics, Suns, Spurs, Jazz, and Blazers. The Knicks were probably the only team that can hang with any of the West teams listed, and the Magic for a few magical years.

    So the Rockets would not have problems over Jordan? Pippen I agree on but when focused in the finals nobody could stop Jordan, he raised it to another level and then some every finals he went to. He was a problem.
    Everybody has problems with Jordan, everybody, but Hakeem was the same, and I think the advantage the Rockets have at the the C position outweighs the advantage the Bulls have at the SG position. It sounds absurd to bet against Jordan, I know, but we are talking about Hakeem here. Also, the role players edge goes to the Rockets.

    Finally, the biggest factor of all, is that the Bulls really were running on fumes. Sure, Jordan is a robot and space alien all rolled into one, but the other Bulls aren't.

    BTW how are some so sure on 94 when the Knicks were up 3-2 in that series and easily could have won it? How are the Rockets a sure fire to beat the Bulls in 94 if the Knicks took it 7games?
    Well, they didn't, because the Rockets won. That was an ugly series, far uglier than the Spurs-Pistons series, and ultimately what caused Stern to beg Jordan back. Again, it's all about matchups, and the Knicks and Rockets match up well against each other. The guards on the Knicks and Rockets are similar defensively, and while Jordan did OK against them, he wasn't otherworldly. Meanwhile, Hakeem was otherworldly against some of the best centers in the league those two seasons. He'd go absolutely nuclear on the Bulls frontline.

    One thing I forgot though, Phil Jackson would probably whine until the league lets him play zone on Hakeem.

    I agree with you 100% on this one.
    Just like the Thunder did the Spurs of last year and Portland did for the Spurs over the last 7 years or so record wise during the season (Best record overall vs. the Spurs for those years if I am correct), we see what happened in the playoffs though when they met. Regular season completely different.
    It's a good gauge though.

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    Yeah, it was so hard the Bulls got in with a 30-52 record in 85-86.
    They got there largely without MJ. That was the year he broke his foot.........I'm just saying.

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