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That's nonsensical since they made the playoffs this year. Just call Kawhi and Danny the core, since you said "regardless of the other players".
If your judging him on last season in the games he played post surgery and never fully fit then i agree his defense wasnt upto par or anything close to elite. However, its not unreasonable to think that with a fresh training camp under his belt and going into next season healthy he can regain his quickness .
I just gave you the stats - synergy numbers
In Isolation: 0.65ppp, 32.9% FG (Ranks 33rd, elite level)
Confirms that he does a very good job staying In front of his man and contesting in isolation. His combination of size, wingspan and quick feet make it difficult to get past him. Add his help defense (the link I posted before shows many examples) and steal totals and hes almost there.
The main criticism is his P&R defense which is horrible and probably (alomg with Lilard) the worst in the L from the point position . Playing with love / peko im sure didnt help ...He needs more strength to fight through screens or play with a big that can hedge and recover. Drafting Towns would go along way in hiding this weakness
Last edited by ceds; 06-04-2015 at 03:30 AM.
That's nonsensical since they made the playoffs this year. Just call Kawhi and Danny the core, since you said "regardless of the other players".
As a core. If you go and get lebron or Durant. Kawhi and green cease to be the core or foundation.
No need to overdebate the Spurs when Duncan and Manu leave. I do think they are going to hit rock bottom before they become a contender. It's possible they plug some holes with free agents, though rarely is a game-changer ever a free agent, and when there is one, it's hard to get them, so I don't know that the Spurs are going to sign free agents that can replace what Tim and Manu gave us. Parker, even if last year is an abberation, will start to decline to the point that you can't count on him being an all-star, though he could still be a productive player. No guarantee Danny is on the team beyond this season, but if he is, he's limited, so I don't know why he is a "core" player. He can shoot threes created for him by the system and he is a top notch defender. He's not an all-star talent. Kawhi is probably a two, not a good enough ball handler and scorer to be top dog, but I agree that he could be a number two, especially as a two-way player. Absent adding a Gasol to the team this offseason, the Spurs are in danger of being a 40 win team that finishes out of the playoffs and at the bottom of the lottery. If that happens, better to implode than to continue in mediocrity.
ceds confirms what I said about Ricky Rubio being a good defender
So he is now a Good defender because of some advanced stats? You can use those or you can just watch a game when he plays and see he is not really a good defender Ceds, no post is going to convince me this guy is good on defense. I have seen him play, he is not very good on defense. Some look at steals and say oh they must be a good defender and that is a stat, but it doesn't tell nearly the whole story does it? If you take out D on this argument we still are left with his horrible shooting! He is a very bad shooter as well and there is no way I want that on the Spurs when they rely on the outside shot a lot of times when the paint is clogged or Tim is down there. I agree on his P&R defense as well, that part is true and you are right there.
Maybe on the Spurs he improves? I would bet his D would improve but then again Tony's has not through the years very much. It's all a moot point though because he will be in Minny unless he gets traded and the Spurs are not even rumored to be interested so this is another silly I thought up in my head offseason thread that someone comes and posts after a dream or a thought they had. I guess it doesn't matter because he is not our problem.He is not a good defender, he said help defender up there an a horrible P&R defender if you look at the stats. I disagree even being a good defender but he could improve some I guess with some help.
Nope. Dude is brutal...
What y'all think now?
You all want a defender at the Point, and his and Parker's contract is pretty similar except Rubio's is a year longer.
I work with a lot of Timberwolve fans and most of them have been begging for the wolves to get rid of Rubio.
He can also recruit Gasol
Uh.....no
Injury prone.
as a spurs defector, who's chosen the warriors bandwagon and the wolves incredible stacking of youth... i would take Diaw, Anderson, and a spurs 1st for wolves 2nd swap.
I'd take him. He's Manu like in his ability to make others better.
Due to our compe ion in the western conference, Spurs need a defensive minded pg who can pass the ball. Someone like Patrick Beverly would be perfect.
Rubio has to play in a spread offense like the Hawks or fast paced offense like the Kings, good luck running PnP w/ a non-shooter.(Even the Mavs used Jason Terry to run PnPs w/ Dirk instead of Kidd)
Top 3 PG defender in 2k???
I stopped after you said defender. Rubio and defender some belong in the same sentence.
no
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