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Rather have Hillary let's let it burn
Or Philip Seymour Hoffman???
Rather have Hillary let's let it burn
Me too! With Julian Castro as VP.
Rather have the land duck from south park that quacks and flies out of his mouth over both to be honest
Holy !
Jeb Is Damaged Goods
Hillary is much more popular than all the Republicans out there. And the Republicans as a group are either not popular or totally unknown. But the real stand out is that Jeb Bush is damaged goods.
By historical standards, he is probably the most likely nominee at this point. He's pretty close to wrapping up being the money and the establishment candidate. And those guys tend to win Republican primaries. But Jeb is very well-known already and yet he is substantially less popular than Hillary or Obama or even Joe Biden. What's particularly striking is that there's no big scandal associated with him. There's really nothing particularly bad except that he has the Bush name and he is him.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...+%28TPMNews%29
If Reps nominated Paul, they'd run away with the Presidency
Doubtful
Jeb could definitely play Hoffman in a biopic
I don't think so
It would be interesting for sure. Hillary would be running as the hawk.
The George W. Bush Fundraisers Whose Firms Received Florida Pension Deals Under Jeb Bush
While Jeb Bush was governor of Florida, state pension officials committed at least $1.7 billion to financial firms whose executives were “Pioneer” fundraisers for his brother’s presidential campaigns. To achieve Pioneer status, the fundraisers had to amass at least $100,000 worth of bundled contributions to one of George W. Bush’s campaigns.
An International Business Times analysis of Florida government do ents and a list of George W. Bush’s bundlers compiled by Public Citizen found that 11 firms that received new Florida pension investments under Jeb Bush were Pioneers. IBTimes also analyzed data from the Florida Division of Elections and Political Moneyline to determine how much money executives from those firms donated directly to Jeb Bush’s campaigns, George W. Bush’s campaigns, the Republican National Committee and the Republican Party of Florida between 1998 and 2006.
Here are the companies that employed George W. Bush's top fundraisers and received pension deals in Florida under Jeb Bush:
Blackstone Group
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Stephen Schwarzman (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $99,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $150 million (2006)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: In 2006, the Florida pension system committed $150 million to a Blackstone Group private equity fund. Stephen Schwarzman, the firm’s chairman, was a George W. Bush Pioneer in 2004. The firm’s employees donated $86,000 to his campaigns for president, $9,000 to the RNC and $4,000 to the Florida GOP. Last month, Schwarzman reportedly attended a fundraiser for Jeb Bush.
Carlyle Group
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Robert Grady (2000)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP:$69,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $275 million (2000 and 2005)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: $14 million
- History: The Florida pension added new investments with Carlyle Group in 2000 and 2005 that generated almost $14 million in fees under Jeb Bush. Former President George H.W. Bush was an adviser to the firm from 1998 through 2003. One of his old aides, Carlyle executive Robert Grady, was a donor to Jeb Bush’s campaigns, a Pioneer in 2000 and a co-chairman for both of George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns. Carlyle employees gave $31,000 to those national campaigns, and $36,000 to the RNC. Last year, Grady resigned from his role as chairman of the board overseeing New Jersey’s pension system, facing questions about the state’s deals with Carlyle Group and firms whose executives had donated to groups supporting New Jersey's Republican Gov. Chris Christie.
Deutsche Bank
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Jeffrey Amling (2000)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP:$200,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $450 million (2003)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: Under Jeb Bush, Florida pension officials placed $450 million in two funds managed by Deutsche Bank. Jeffrey Amling, a top executive at Deutsche Bank, was a Pioneer for George W. Bush in 2000. Deutsche Bank executives gave $110,000 to his presidential campaigns. They also contributed $82,000 to the RNC and $4,000 to the Republican Party of Florida. Amling was a contributor to Jeb Bush’s 1998 campaign.
Freeman Spogli
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Bradford Freeman (2000 and 2004); Ronald Spogli (2000 and 2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $743,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $50 million (2004)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: $1.7 million
- History: Freeman Spogli received a $50 million commitment from Florida’s pension system in 2004. That year, the firm’s lead executives, Bradford Freeman and Ronald Spogli, were both Pioneers, as they were four years earlier. The firm’s employees gave $21,000 to George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns and $670,000 to the RNC. They also donated $50,000 to the Florida GOP. Florida paid Freeman Spogli $1.7 million in fees between 2004 and 2006. Freeman has reportedly co-hosted two fundraisers for Jeb Bush this year. George W. Bush appointed Spogli as ambassador to Italy in 2005 and San Marino in 2006.
Goldman Sachs
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Peter Coneway (2000 and 2004); George Walker IV (2004); Henry Paulson Jr. (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $1.5 million
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $150 million (2004)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: $2.5 million
- History: In 2004, Florida pension officials directed $150 million in funding to a Goldman Sachs subsidiary, while Jeb Bush’s cousin, George Walker IV, was Goldman’s head of alternative investment strategies. At the time, Walker and two other top Goldman executives were Pioneers for George W. Bush’s re-election campaign. Another, Goldman CEO Hank Paulson, would later be named U.S. treasury secretary. Goldman employees gave a total of $390,000 to George W. Bush’s campaigns, and $1.1 million to the RNC. They also gave $22,000 to Florida’s state Republican Party. The Goldman investment generated $2.5 million in fees for Goldman while Jeb Bush was governor.
Hicks Muse
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Thomas Hicks (2000 and 2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $189,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $25 million (2001)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: $1.3 million
- History: Florida first invested money with Hicks Muse in 1996. With Jeb Bush as governor, the state put $25 million in a new Hicks Muse fund, which generated $1.3 million in fees during his tenure. The firm’s founder, Thomas Hicks, previously purchased the Texas Rangers baseball club from George W. Bush, and was a Pioneer for his presidential campaign in 2000. Hicks contributed to Jeb Bush’s 2002 campaign, gave $36,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and $115,000 to the RNC.
JPMorgan Chase
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Alan R. Buckwalter III (2000); John O'Connor (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP:$64,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $100 million (2003)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: Florida pension officials gave JPMorgan a $100 million pension deal in 2003. Former JPMorgan chairman Alan Buckwalter III was a Pioneer in 2000. Another top executive, John O’Connor, was a Pioneer during the 2004 campaign. JPMorgan employees contributed $31,000 to Bush’s presidential campaigns, and roughly the same amount to the RNC.
Lehman Brothers
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Stephen Lessing (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $499,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $175 million
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: The Florida pension system invested in Neuberger Berman in 2005. At the time, the firm was owned by Lehman Brothers. A year earlier, Lehman executive Stephen Lessing was a Pioneer for George W. Bush’s re-election campaign. Lehman employees gave nearly $300,000 to his national bids. In 2006, George Walker IV joined Lehman to guide Lehman’s asset management business, including Neuberger Berman. One year later, after Jeb Bush left office, he joined Lehman as an adviser for the firm’s private equity business. Funding numbers for Florida’s initial Neuberger Berman investment were not available at press time.
Morgan Stanley
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Palmer Murray (2000) John Mack (2004), Richard Powers III (2004) Philip Purcell (2004), William Strong (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $1.1 million
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $150 million (2006)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: Six months before Jeb Bush left office, Florida pension officials invested $150 million in a Morgan Stanley real estate fund. Before that, four of the firm’s top executives had previously served as Pioneers for his brother. Morgan Stanley employees donated $625,000 to George W. Bush’s campaigns. They also gave $18,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and over $515,000 to the RNC.
Prudential Financial
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Jon Hanson (2000)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $406,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $100 million (2005)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: Florida officials first put pension money in a Prudential real estate fund in the 1980s. Florida pension officials liquidated the state's investment in Prudential's PRISA fund in 2003, but invested in it again two years later. Jon Hanson, a longtime Prudential board member, was a Pioneer in 2000, and Prudential employees gave $70,000 to George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns. Prudential pumped $185,000 into the Republican Party of Florida and $150,000 into the RNC.
UBS
- George W. Bush Pioneers: Joseph Grano (2004)
- Company employees’ total contributions to the Bushes, RNC and Florida GOP: $147,000
- Investment commitment from Jeb Bush's administration: $100 million (2003)
- Florida taxpayer fees paid to firm under Jeb Bush: N/A
- History: In 2003, Florida pension officials invested $100 million in UBS real estate funds. At the time, Joseph Grano, chairman of UBS Financial Services, was leading George W. Bush’s Homeland Security Advisory Council. He was a Pioneer in 2004. UBS employees gave $40,000 to Bush’s campaigns. They gave $96,000 to the RNC and $4,000 to the Republican Party of Florida.
http://www.ibtimes.com/george-w-bush...b-bush-1880624
The same type of orgs have beening paying Bill and Hillary $Ms in "speaking fees" over the years. Hillary was getting $200K/speech.
... is why Wall st, the financial sector is as immune, untouchable as your local police goons.
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"We're Not Racist, But ... "
Jeb Bush Praises Book by Notorious Race Theorist Charles Murray – Says His Views “Were Shaped” by Him
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...ter1035713&t=7
it's seldom we agree, but I don't think so either.
Jeb Says George Is His Most Influential Adviser
May 7, 2015
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...0c9_story.html“When asked this week at an exclusive Manhattan gathering about who advises him on U.S.-Israel policy, Jeb Bush surprised many of the 50-plus attendees by naming his brother, former president George W. Bush, as his most influential counselor,” the Washington Post reports.
Said Bush: “If you want to know who I listen to for advice, it’s him.”
The remark came as part of an answer to a question about Bush’s political advisers and their policy views. Bush was pressed for details about who he surrounds himself with and consults as he thinks through his positions, guests said.
A Florida law required some single moms to publish ads naming their sexual partners
While Jeb Bush was governor of Florida, the state approved a law forcing single mothers seeking to give their children up for adoption to publish their sexual histories in a newspaper in an attempt to contact the children's fathers — even if the mothers were rape victims or minors.
The measure, passed in 2001 and soon nicknamed the "Scarlet Letter" law, wasn't actually signed by Bush — though he chose not to veto it, either — and was repealed in 2003 after courts found it to be uncons utional. But the bizarre and anachronistic policy, flagged by the Huffington Post's Laura Bassett Tuesday in a review of Bush's past rhetoric and policies toward single mothers, could be a problem for the presidential hopeful who once bemoaned that the GOP is viewed as an "anti-woman" party.
When Florida legislators crafted this provision, their goal was to ensure that a biological father would be informed before a single mother gave his child up for adoption.
They inserted it into a massive overhaul of Florida adoption law after some well-publicized cases in which children of single mothers were given up for adoption without the knowledge of their biological fathers, leading to years long court battles and uncertainty for the children involved.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/9/8751955/...letter-mothers
Jeb Bush's 1995 crusade to publicly shame unwed mothers, cuz women are always the problem
a retrospective on some radical ideas from his 1995 book Profiles in Character, which helped inform his lawmaking as governor.
In a chapter called "The Restoration of Shame,” the likely 2016 presidential candidate made the case that restoring the art of public humiliation could help prevent pregnancies “out of wedlock.”
"One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame.
Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct.
Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior.
There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful."
Bush points to Nathaniel Hawthorne's 1850 novel The Scarlet Letter, in which the main character is forced to wear a large red "A" for "adulterer" on her clothes to punish her for having an extramarital affair that produced a child, as an early model for his worldview.
"Infamous shotgun weddings and Nathaniel Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter are reminders that public condemnation of irresponsible sexual behavior has strong historical roots,” Bush wrote.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...8Daily+Kos%29#
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/unma...ildbearing.htm
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Un...gnancy-US.html
Dear Sirs, I Am the Son of US President George H.W. Bush and I Have a Business Proposition for You
IN MARCH 1989, Jeb Bush arrived in Nigeria to a royal welcome. More than 100,000 American-flag waving Nigerians lined the streets of Gombe to watch as the US president's son was honored with a 1,300-horse "durbar," a festival typically reserved for heads of state and religious holidays. Bush later met with Nigerian dictator Ibrahim Babangida, who had come to power in a 1985 military coup. They chatted about Cuban human rights and the failed nomination of John Tower, Bush's father's pick for defense secretary.
But the president's then-36-year-old son was not visiting Nigeria on a diplomatic mission. He had come to promote an industrial water pump company. The visit—and the $82 million deal tied to it—would form one of the more controversial episodes of Bush's business career and dog him for years after he jumped into politics.
The deal became notorious because of allegations, outlined in thousands of pages of court do ents, that the transaction had been greased through massive bribes to Nigerian officials paid for by American taxpayer money loaned through the US Export-Import Bank.
The deal triggered a federal criminal investigation, as well as nearly two decades of civil litigation by the US Department of Justice that in 2013 resulted in a federal jury finding that the water pump company, MWI Corp., had defrauded the federal government of millions of dollars.
Bush has long tried to distance himself from the deal. He was not a defendant in the Justice Department lawsuit, and no criminal charges were ever brought against him or MWI. He has repeatedly said that he didn't directly profit from the venture or know about any alleged bribery or political influence peddling. But even the less salacious details of the deal, revealed in years of legal filings, don't reflect well on Bush.
Bush lent his name—and that of his prominent family—to an enterprise with hazards that should have been obvious.
Nigeria, then as now, was infamous for its corruption that was virtually inescapable for anyone attempting to do business there.
And according to the Justice Department and testimony in the trial, the company Bush was promoting sold overpriced agricultural equipment to an impoverished nation whose people often couldn't use it. In the process, the deal put the already indebted nation further into hock to foreign creditors.
Bush did not respond to a request for comment for this story, but as he prepares to announce his bid for the presidency, questions still linger about the exact part he played in a deal that the Justice Department said took advantage of both the Nigerian people and American taxpayers.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ush-el-nigeria
I suppose JEB will call this article another "cheap shot"
("my daddy made sure I wasn't liste as a defendent")
Jeb Bush is modeling his campaign on one of military history's great disasters
Jonathan Martin and Patrick Healy on rebooting Jeb Bush's presidential un-campaign:
By hiring Mr. Diaz, Mr. Bush wanted to send a clear signal that "the culture of the Bush operation will now be a Pickett's Charge engagement campaign with his main opponents," according to one Bush ally.
This is a reference to an element of the Battle of Gettysburg during the American Civil War. Except Pickett's Charge was a bloody disaster for the men involved that devastated the strategic position of the men who'd ordered it.
The context was that General Robert E. Lee had ordered a daring Confederate invasion of the North, which eventually led to a massive gathering of Union and Confederate forces in the town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
On the third day of that battle, Lee ordered artillery bombardment of Union positions on the high ground at Cemetery Ridge, followed by an infantry charge.
Union forces correctly predicted what was up, and silenced their guns during the Confederate barrage.
That lead the rebels to mistakenly believe that they're knocked out the Union's big guns, so they sent 12,000 men to try to take the ridge.
They were cut to pieces by Union guns, suffered a 50 percent casualty rate, lost the battle, and permanently lost the strategic initiative in the larger war.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/14/8777727...icketts-charge
Word is now "Can JEB recover from his disastrous few weeks as not-yet-candidate, while still gaming the system by unlimited fund raising to be a candidate"
JEB pandering to Confederate voters?
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The law exists pretty much everywhere, just check the public welfare rolls.
got any links to shaming people for being on public assistance?
The erstwhile front-runner tries to get things in order:By hiring Mr. Diaz, Mr. Bush wanted to send a clear signal that “the culture of the Bush operation will now be a Pickett’s Charge engagement campaign with his main opponents,” according to one Bush ally.Hmm. Pickett’s Charge is not exactly something you want to emulate …
I find myself thinking about an incident from a while back, where Jeb invoked the spirit of a “mystic warrior':
After more than an hour of solemn ceremony naming Rep. Marco Rubio, R-West Miami, as the 2007-08 House speaker, Gov. Jeb Bush stepped to the podium in the House chamber last week and told a short story about “unleashing Chang,” his “mystical warrior” friend.
Here are Bush’s words, spoken before hundreds of lawmakers and politicians:
”Chang is a mystical warrior.
Chang is somebody who believes in conservative principles,
believes in entrepreneurial capitalism,
believes in moral values that underpin a free society.
”I rely on Chang with great regularity in my public life.
He has been by my side and sometimes I let him down.
But Chang, this mystical warrior, has never let me down.”
How was he to know that “unleashing Chiang” was about landing Kuomintang troops on the mainland, where they would have been slaughtered?
(Maybe that Pickett comparison isn’t so off after all.)
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...-edition/?_r=0
Seems like Pappy and Barbs spawned two extremely stupid, ignorant sons. Governors of TX and FL!which is exactly how the VRWC loves its Useful Idiots.
He will be our first Academy Award winning President.
Or Philip Seymour Hoffman???
Go get 'em, P-Hoff... I mean Jeb, tee-hee.
Scientists Believe They Have Isolated Gene for Failure
MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—Geneticists at the University of Minnesota believe that they have isolated the gene that makes some people much more prone to failure than others.
While the research is preliminary, the scientists said that they were able to successfully identify the failure gene by studying the DNA of males in two generations of the same American family.
“If we have indeed isolated the gene that makes people fail—and we believe we have—all of the subjects in our study are carriers,” said Davis Logsdon, the geneticist who supervised the research.
According to Logsdon, those who carry the gene for failure have “absolutely no idea that they have it” and thus project the confidence and self-assurance of people whose genetic material does not make them likely to wreak havoc on a massive scale.
“Not only does this gene cause people to fail, it makes them fail to understand that they have failed,” he said. “It is a really bad gene.”
While scientists have not yet found a cure for the failure gene, they consider isolating it a major breakthrough in itself.
“Once we identify someone as a carrier of this gene, we can try to keep him out of situations where he might do great harm to others,” Logsdon said.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borow...NzAxOTU4NjUzS0
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borow...NzAxOTU4NjUzS0
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