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    Dyna5ty BatManu20's Avatar
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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    Meh, this is actually a GOOD risk unlike the moves Doc usually makes. He's nowhere near the #1 option that Charlotte delusionally thought he was, but he can still contribute as a role player on the wing. He's also not 80 years old.

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    Good deal for the Spurs, seeing as how it would send Kawhi's kryptonite far far way.

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    Not going to be a top option in the clipper's O so this may help them if he can adjust to the right at ude

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    Spurs > Yankees > Knicks Technique's Avatar
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    Stephenson for Red


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    non-essential Chris's Avatar
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    Hawes was pretty worthless but Barnes is a unique talent. A valuable player for any team imo

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    Good deal for the Spurs, seeing as how it would send Kawhi's kryptonite far far way.

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    Matt Barnes gonna be pissed, tbh. Just watched an Inside the NBA feature on him where he talked about how he loves living in LA cause he's from here and all his family is here and he couldn't be any happier about his situation playing for the Clippers

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Doc adding a team cancer

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    Stephenson is a huge cancer, but it's probably worth the risk for a team that desperately needs wing talent..

    Barnes is a ty player, tbh, shouldn't be starting in the NBA..

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    about the only thing clippers can do to try to get them over the top

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    MORE LIFE SOON COME 313's Avatar
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    Good deal for the Spurs, seeing as how it would send Kawhi's kryptonite far far way.

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    me, koolbob and spurfan313 are all huge gots.

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    Good deal for the Spurs, seeing as how it would send Kawhi's kryptonite far far way.
    Unfortunately for the Spurs, Porker's kryptonite (Austin Rivers) is probably staying.

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    I don't really get CHA here?? Yes, you hate Lance, but if you keep him just one more year all of his money is gone. I could see dumping him if it meant taking back no salary, but you are taking on Hawes for 2+ more years than Lance just to dump him?

    I could get it if you were getting a talent back, but Barnes is a fringe NBA player at this point and Hawes is not worth eating up 2+ extra years at 5-6M just to dump Lance IMVHO.

    I get why LAC does this, but it's not a good fit. They have very limited assets though and I guess if you can dump two below average players while shedding longer-term money, you have to do it especially if you are at least getting some talent back.

    However, Lance seems to be about the opposite of what LAC needs. Yes, they need a SF badly, but they need a 3/D player and Lance is not a consistent shooter and his defense is ok (might regain form). His most valuable skill is playmaking which will be limited playing with a ball dominant PG unless he might be a 6th man? I guess he will be the ball handler when CP goes out, but that seems to limit him since he's not playing every minute.

    Interesting and very low risk gamble for LAC. Have no idea why CHA does this at all.

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    I'd have Stephenson come off the bench to play Crawford's role(since he's much better than him), and try to trade Crawford for a good role player..

    Crawford is a terrible player nowadays, but as we have seen throughout history in the NBA, your name has more weight than your actual ability..

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Barnes sucks, this trade is a steal for Los Angeles.

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    That's my mans! Red Hawk #21's Avatar
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    Good deal for the Spurs, seeing as how it would send Kawhi's kryptonite far far way.
    I want the one on the left, tbh...

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    I'd have Stephenson come off the bench to play Crawford's role(since he's much better than him), and try to trade Crawford for a good role player..

    Crawford is a terrible player nowadays, but as we have seen throughout history in the NBA, your name has more weight than your actual ability..
    6th man is the only way this seems to make sense, but will a loose cannon like Lance accept that role? Also, LAC seems to be in love with Jamal and I wonder if they have the stones to trade him.

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    Meh, this is actually a GOOD risk unlike the moves Doc usually makes. He's nowhere near the #1 option that Charlotte delusionally thought he was, but he can still contribute as a role player on the wing. He's also not 80 years old.
    Aren't there already rumblings about several of the Clippers growing frustrated with Chris Paul consistently chirping and giving them instructions? If these chemistry issues are true then why would you want Lance Stephenson?

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    I don't know..I absolutely hate Lance Stephenson's game and I was calling him overrated even when he was with Indiana, I'm just trying to justify the Clipps' decision..

    I think Rivers is just desperate at this point, especially with all the criticism he has taken as a GM..you can't keep using the same flawed roster every year, especially after the embarrassment of this year's 2nd round..

    It's evident that they desperately need depth, though..Paul and Griffin were exhausted in round 2..

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    Barnes sucks, this trade is a steal for Los Angeles.
    A team with chemistry issues bringing in Stephenson.

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    Jordan just adding two players he can beat one on one. All makes sense

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    I don't really get CHA here?? Yes, you hate Lance, but if you keep him just one more year all of his money is gone. I could say dumping him if it meant taking back no salary, but you are taking on Hawes for 2+ more years than Lance just to dump him?

    I could get it if you were getting a talent back, but Barnes is a fringe NBA player at this point and Hawes is not worth eating up 2+ extra years at 5-6M just to dump Lance IMVHO.

    I get why LAC does this, but it's not a good fit. They have very limited assets though and I guess if you can dump two below average players while shedding longer-term money, you have to do it especially if you are at least getting some talent back.

    However, Lance seems to be about the opposite of what LAC needs. Yes, they need a SF badly, but they need a 3/D player and Lance is not a consistent shooter and his defense is ok (might regain form). His most valuable skill is playmaking which will be limited playing with a ball dominant PG unless he might be a 6th man? I guess he will be the ball handler when CP goes out, but that seems to limit him since he's not playing every minute.

    Interesting and very low risk gamble for LAC. Have no idea why CHA does this at all.
    They're just desperate to get back to the playoffs and probably feel their relationship with him is irreparable, plus he's a poor fit next to Walker.

    Barnes has a 1M guarantee if waived by July 1st and they have no need for him, so expect him to be either re-routed or more likely waived.

    I agree with Harlem that Crawford should be traded and that's probably their plan, to trade him for a big a tier above the veteran's minimum types (someone like Scott, who the Hawks will likely be looking to dump . . . the Hawks can then re-route or waive Crawford, who's $1.5M guaranteed until June 30th), so that they can preserve the room exception for Johnson and have Stephenson be the sixth man.

    It's definitely worth it for the Clippers, for the simple fact that it increases their ceiling, while not lowering their floor and if it doesn't work out, they can just decline his team option, while not having relinquished an asset that can hurt them long term.

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    They're just desperate to get back to the playoffs and probably feel their relationship with him is irreparable, plus he's a poor fit next to Walker.

    Barnes has a 1M guarantee if waived by July 1st and they have no need for him, so expect him to be either re-routed or more likely waived.

    I agree with Harlem that Crawford should be traded and that's probably their plan, to trade him for a big a tier above the veteran's minimum types (someone like Scott, who the Hawks will likely be looking to dump), so that they can preserve the room exception for Johnson and have Stephenson be the sixth man.

    It's definitely worth it for the Clippers, for the simple fact that it increases their ceiling, while not lowering their floor and if it doesn't work out, they can just decline his team option, while not having relinquished an asset that can hurt them long term.
    I agree about it being worth it for LAC, said as much in that post, but how does this help CHA get back to the playoffs? Shaving off 2M in cap space this year does nothing for them.

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