I am stunned by Curry

[SASdynasty!]

Sorry he is the only pg with mvp + fmvp except magic. I watched stockton/nash/kidd/cp3, all had dominant bigs to pass to and pad assists. This warrior team does not have a single dominant scorer without Curry. Modern day NBA is about pace and space. Curry is 70-80% of Stockton/Nash playmaking on top of Reggie Miller/Ray Allen 3 point shooting. It is ridiculously overpowered when one guy gives you both space and pace. When he is not on the court, the warrior team looks very mediocre. I think Cavs puts more defensive pressure on Curry than Warriors on LeBron. Traps/double teams on 3 point line, Curry creates a lot of space when he doesn't have the ball. Without him the entire slash and kick thing does not work.

But they do have a guy that set the NBA record for most points in a quarter...this season.

[cd98]

But they do have a guy that set the NBA record for most points in a quarter...this season.

One quarter of an 82 game season. I do agree that Warriors have scorers, though I wouldn't use "dominant" to describe them. But this Hitmatb is kidding himself if he thinks that Curry only lacks a dominant big to be a playmaker like Stockton, Nash, CP3, or Kidd. Especialy Kidd, as Kidd's best seasons in NJ didn't involve any dominant scorers. Curry is a shooter, not a playmaker.

[SASdynasty!]

One quarter of an 82 game season. I do agree that Warriors have scorers, though I wouldn't use "dominant" to describe them. But this Hitmatb is kidding himself if he thinks that Curry only lacks a dominant big to be a playmaker like Stockton, Nash, CP3, or Kidd. Especialy Kidd, as Kidd's best seasons in NJ didn't involve any dominant scorers. Curry is a shooter, not a playmaker.

How are you going to say "the warrior team does not have a single dominant scorer without Curry?" Curry averaged 23.8 PPG whereas Thompson averaged 21.7. So 2 PPG on more minutes is the difference between someone who's a "dominant scorer" and someone who's not? Wow.

[Malik Hairston]

Pass-first PGs are generally overrated, tbh..the PG position in general, of course, which makes it even more amazing that Curry is going to be the first PG to be the clear best player on a le team in over 25 years..

I don't think people realize the type of dominance he has displayed this season, probably due to his appearance and style of play..I also don't know how a guy that averages 8 APG isn't a good passer..

I also don't know why Jason Kidd is being mentioned, he's probably one of the most overrated players of my lifetime, tbh..prime Jason Kidd(1998 to 2004) led ONE team to a top 10 offense, which is pretty ridiculous for a superstar PG..a defensive-first pass-first PG as your star player is as pointless as it gets..fortunately for him, he played in historically bad Eastern Conferences that gave the illusion that he was leading contenders..A

Anyways, on to Curry and his amazing season..

#3 in PER
#2 in BPM
#1 in WS/48
#1 in VORP
a 64% True Shooting % on a 29% usage rate, which just isn't human

You'll probably never see a PG display that type of dominance again, tbh..

Curry's playoff numbers(PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP) through the Finals are only matched or surpassed by the following guards in league history: 2006 Wade, 2001 Kobe, 2009 Kobe, 2011 Wade and 2005 Ginobili..this type of dominance just isn't something you expect a PG to do in a large sample size(maybe for a series or 2, but not 4)..

Curry is also doing it without a legit #2 guy, as he's about to win a le with a #2 guy with a 16 PER or less in the playoffs(which should be nowhere near a #2 option), which has never happened in the modern era IIRC(2003 Duncan and 1994 Olajuwon were close IIRC)..if I asked you if you could win a le with Draymond Green as your 2nd best player, I doubt anybody anywhere would have said yes..

[Clipper Nation]

I don't hate Curry but I hate his style of basketball. Chucking shots from way behind the three point line is bad basketball. He's just lucky that he has a scrub player defending him. If the Spurs and TP were in the finals this series would've been over.

Curry might have surpassed Wilt's 100 if Pop put Porker on him

[ducks]

james had 16 in the 4 curry had 17 but but people are stunned by curry

[TD 21]

Best PG of my lifetime and its not close IMO..

'09 and '10 Paul was probably the best pure PG of all time, but even if you give the edge to Curry, at the very least, its close.

[Malik Hairston]

'09 and '10 Paul was probably the best pure PG of all time, but even if you give the edge to Curry, at the very least, its close.

If we're speaking strictly at playing the PG position, Paul and Nash are probably the best I've ever seen(I only saw post-prime Stockton and didn't see Magic), but Curry is easily better as a player IMO..

Being able to dominate a game without needing to dominate the ball makes him more unique and versatile than somebody like CP3 that always needs the ball in his hands to be a factor, tbh..

Tom Haberstroh(I think it was him) had an article/study last year, even prior to Curry's MVP season, where they discovered that Curry has by far the highest "gravitational pull" in the NBA for opposing defenses, meaning that he creates more opportunities for his teammates than any player in the league, even without having the ball in his hands..

He's a historically great player for his position IMO, but I don't think people realize it due to the skewed perception because he's small and he's a shooter..PGs are generally the easiest position players to eliminate in the playoffs, and it's not even close, as we have seen throughout the years, making it even more impressive that he has been so great..

[TD 21]

If we're speaking strictly at playing the PG position, Paul and Nash are probably the best I've ever seen(I only saw post-prime Stockton and didn't see Magic), but Curry is easily better as a player IMO..

Being able to dominate a game without needing to dominate the ball makes him more unique and versatile than somebody like CP3 that always dominates the ball, tbh..

Tom Haberstroh(I think it was him) had an article/study last year, even prior to Curry's MVP season, where they discovered that Curry has by far the highest "gravitational pull" in the NBA for opposing defenses, meaning that he creates more opportunities for his teammates than any player in the league, even without having the ball in his hands..

He's a historically great player for his position IMO, but I don't think people realize it due to the skewed perception because he's small and he's a shooter..

Same.

Curry is a more unique player than Paul, for the simple fact that he has no comparable in the history of the game, but that doesn't necessarily make him a better player, let alone "easily".

I agree that he's historically great though and that many don't realize it for the reasons you said, but I'm still leaning '09 and '10 Paul. I've got Curry a close second.

[Vic Petro]

Goat PG is Magic Johnson.

[Clipper Nation]

FMVP worth took a hit in 2007, tbh..

Larry Hughes, Boobie Gibson "Greatest PG I've seen in my lifetime"

FIFY

[Godbama]

He's played 6 full seasons, his worst 3G% is 42.4, and his career 3G% is 44.0%, 1191-2704, 6.5 att/gm. He's 26, and I'm dead sure he's going to break Reggie Miller's record for 3s. If you don't see him making a career of it, you either need glasses or LASIK.

I really wouldn't bother trying to use numbers with these guys lol. it's like "crappy ESPN sports talk show full of hot takes THE FORUM"

[Shabazz]

So much fun to watch that little kid who used to run around the Charlotte sidelines.... That little scrawny recruit that none of the colleges wanted.... lead his team to the NBA le.

you have to be a pretty big hater not to enjoy watching Curry play.

[cd98]

How are you going to say "the warrior team does not have a single dominant scorer without Curry?" Curry averaged 23.8 PPG whereas Thompson averaged 21.7. So 2 PPG on more minutes is the difference between someone who's a "dominant scorer" and someone who's not? Wow.

I don't consider Thompson a dominant scorer. Teams can shut him down if they have a good defender and make it a priority. I think GS won despite his weak shooting performance.