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    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    He's got an equal amount of les, more Finals MVPs, more playoff wins and individual records, and better stats.

    May want to rethink that again.
    Are you factoring in Olympic Medalry?

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    Are you factoring in Olympic Medalry?
    No. FIBA accomplishments are minor league achievements, like counting homers hit in AAA in the MLB.

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    so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer
    No, because the WC playoff teams all usually win 50 games. Can't think of one year in the last 20 years whereas a WC playoff team didn't win 50 just to make it to the dance. That means the WC was compe ive so whoever made it out had to be really good. And if a player 3peated as world champion AND 3peated again as WC champs (culminating in 2 more rangs), that player is badass. Especially when you factor in 2 more international championships (AKA Gold Medals and no Bronze Medals ).


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    Not really. The Hawks won 60 but still got beatdown

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    No, because the WC playoff teams all usually win 50 games. Can't think of one year in the last 20 years whereas a WC playoff team didn't win 50 just to make it to the dance. That means the WC was compe ive so whoever made it out had to be really good. And if a player 3peated as world champion AND 3peated again as WC champs (culminating in 2 more rangs), that player is badass. Especially when you factor in 2 more international championships (AKA Gold Medals and no Bronze Medals ).

    Shaq and Gasol were pretty badass

    One of your rare takes that is accurate.

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    SMH

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    Poster on RealGM looked it up:

    What kind of stupid stat is this?

    First of all, they didn't count his 2 wins over 50 pace win teams (i.e. .609 or better) in the strike shortened season 3 years ago. That makes the total 9, not 7. You can't penalize LeBron for the season being shortened.

    Second, as I mentioned earlier, LeBron is 30 and hasn't played the finals yet the season he turned 30. If you cut it off there, the totals are:

    Jordan: 10
    LeBron: 9 (10 if you count the 49 win pacers team who had a game canceled)
    Bird: 9

    That's not as interesting of a stat to show, though, huh?



    Kobe fan desperately searching for anything, at this point, tbh..

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    Also, top 5 defense opponents:

    Lebron- 16 in 10 playoff runs(still going)
    DK- 16 in 12 playoff runs(retired)
    Kobe- 14 in 13 playoff runs(will probably never play in a playoff game again)

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    so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer

    Hey moron...to disagree with that chart is to disagree with the greatness of your own team..you and mid are like dumb and dumber

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    Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

    How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?

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    Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

    How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?
    At least 1 5 years ago.

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    so lakerfan likes to say 50 win seasons dont matter... now bring up wins against 50 win teams as a barometer
    Thread ended here. Nothing else read.

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    This one is a kick in the nuts. No wonder Spurs fans are staying away from this thread. How is it that Jim has played in more playoffs series than Kobe, yet Kobe has beat 6 more teams? Not to mention... 4 of those teams were Jim led.

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    Wait, individuals eliminate teams now?

    How many 50-win teams did Derek Fisher eliminate?
    You guys coined it... we're just adding on to it.

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    Its not a coincedence at this point. Lebron would barely be able to survive the 1st round much less get to conference finals if he was in the West. His entire bread and butter is stamping his automatic finals ticket because he's a very great player in the weakest conference in sports history. He gets to the finals and just has to beat 1 legit team year after year and he can't even do that.

    Unless he has Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Battier, Birdman off the bench as well as Mike Miller

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    Its not a coincedence at this point. Lebron would barely be able to survive the 1st round much less get to conference finals if he was in the West. His entire bread and butter is stamping his automatic finals ticket because he's a very great player in the weakest conference in sports history. He gets to the finals and just has to beat 1 legit team year after year and he can't even do that.

    Unless he has Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Battier, Birdman off the bench as well as Mike Miller
    This is precisely why I dont give him credit....the other thing is he's never as tired as people say..look at where Ohio is on the US map..travel to and from each conference is much easier on him than it is for teams further east or fuurther west

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    This is precisely why I dont give him credit....the other thing is he's never as tired as people say..look at where Ohio is on the US map..travel to and from each conference is much easier on him than it is for teams further east or fuurther west
    If LeBronze was in the western conference, he wouldnt be in the finals 4 years in a row u can bet on that

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    if lebron was on a western conference team, that means he had a better team around him. he was undermanned and GSW was the best team in the league all year... both reg season and playoffs. GSW was supposed to win even if cavs were fully healthy tbh

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