Evolution...?

[spurraider21]

We have todays pig ok? Give me the name of the first creature that was going to end up todays pig. That is the problem with the theory. Where are all those stages of evolution?

i'm not an expert on pig evolution. quick google search mentioned wild boars, and an extinct species we call "sus strozzi" as ancestors. the oldest mammals we can find are smaller rodent-like creatures, all of whom share the same basic traits.

i also recognize the masisive similarities between pigs and other mammals, especially if you look at 4 legged ones like dogs, or cows.

2 front legs, 2 hind legs. same organ systems. circulatory systems. same facial features... two eyes, a nose below it (with 2 nostrils), and a mouth below that. 2 ears on the side... hairy. reproduce in the same way. they all produce MILK of all things... and the milk comes from the same place. when you look at all the similarities within species, a common ancestor makes more sense than anything.

otherwise, why would a creator decide that THESE certain animals (mammals) will produce milk and give live births, while THESE animals will lay eggs and wont produce milk, etc.

[ChumpDumper]

I could post something talking about the HUGE/MASSIVE holes in the theory of evolution every single day. So many holes.

OK, how about you post your theory of the development of life.

Let's see how it stands up to message board-level scrutiny.

I dare you.

[spurraider21]

also, it's literally impossible to "see evolution happening today." evolution isn't something that occurs in 20 years, or a lifetime. there is no magic birth where suddenly a new species is born. it doesnt go chimp -> chimp -> chimp -> chimp -> HUMAN. (granted, humans dont come from chimps anyway, but i'm trying to make a separate point).

[RD2191]

millions of years lol

[lebomb]

i'm not an expert on pig evolution. quick google search mentioned wild boars, and an extinct species we call "sus strozzi" as ancestors. the oldest mammals we can find are smaller rodent-like creatures, all of whom share the same basic traits.

i also recognize the masisive similarities between pigs and other mammals, especially if you look at 4 legged ones like dogs, or cows.

2 front legs, 2 hind legs. same organ systems. circulatory systems. same facial features... two eyes, a nose below it (with 2 nostrils), and a mouth below that. 2 ears on the side... hairy. reproduce in the same way. they all produce MILK of all things... and the milk comes from the same place. when you look at all the similarities within species, a common ancestor makes more sense than anything.

otherwise, why would a creator decide that THESE certain animals (mammals) will produce milk and give live births, while THESE animals will lay eggs and wont produce milk, etc.

Why would these things happen by complete chance?

[ChumpDumper]

millions of years lol

How long do you think the Earth has been around?

[ChumpDumper]

Why would these things happen by complete chance?

Why would a designer design organisms just to go extinct?

[lebomb]

Why would a designer design organisms just to go extinct?

You will have to ask him when you see him. I have no idea.

[ChumpDumper]

You will have to ask him when you see him. I have no idea.

Why would he make cancer and other diseases?

Why would he make mutations that make evolution at the very least plausible?

Kind of a ty designer tbh.

[spurraider21]

Why would these things happen by complete chance?

Adaptations/mutations occur by chance or random mistakes in genetic replication. Mistakes in replication happen quite often, but most of the time they have no effect. If the mutation is harmful, that mutation is very unlikely to be passed on to future generations. If it is beneficial, it is more likely to be passed down. If it is neither harmful nor helpful, the odds don't change.

When populations separate, the populations undergo changes unique to them.

[Blake]

There is no end to this....


So – the big questions are: does variety show that life-forms are changing from one kind into another? Or does variety have a limit?

There are only two ways to find out!

• First, do we see Evolution happening today or do we see that life-forms have limits in their variety?
• Second, if Evolution is true, the fossil record of the past should show millions of examples of transitional fossils.

On the other hand, if Evolution is not true, the fossil record should show that life-forms in the past had limits to their variety also.

This means a REAL transitional form would not be a “variety”. Instead, these life-forms should show a major structure that is clearly changing.

In other words – if rodents became bats we should see some strange rodent with super long fingers. Why? Because bats have fingers longer than their bodies that they use as wings.

The truth is the only possible transitional fossils Evolutionists bring up are not convincing – even to other Evolutionists. There are some interesting mosaic creatures like the platypus and the walrus in the world. But the platypus and the walrus are complete within their own kind. They are not transitional forms. If Creation is what really happened in the past, this is what we would expect to find in the fossil record. (3)

Slurp

[boutons_deux]

The Biblical world view is childishly comical, reserved for the stupid, the ignorant, the duped. The "reality" will be, IS, so entirely different from the Bible.

eg

"The Dominant Intelligence in the Universe May Be Non-Biological"

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...ce%2C+Tech.%29

[RD2191]

The Biblical world view is childishly comical, reserved for the stupid, the ignorant, the duped. The "reality" will be, IS, so entirely different from the Bible.

eg

"The Dominant Intelligence in the Universe May Be Non-Biological"


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...ce%2C+Tech.%29

you believe you came from a fish

[Avante]

How could anyone be dumb enought to think....

There was nothing.

Fishy thing (that came from ...where?) crawls out of the abyss.

It evolves into....

T-REX, bumblebee, butterfly, eagle, Eskimo, The Watushi, rhino, mouse, bear, Pollock, Jew, ant, worm, Dago, Texan, etc etc etc etc etc.....

ing re might.

[ChumpDumper]

How could abyone be dumbenought to think....

There was nothing.

Fishy things crawls out of the abyss.

It evolves into....

T-REX, bumblebee, butterfly, eagle, Eskimo, The Watushi, rhino, mouse, bear, Pollock, Jew, ant, worm, Dago, Texan, etc etc etc etc etc.....

ing re might.

And then there is this:

[Avante]

A huge ball of fire can just hang out in space.

Sperm meets egg....life!!!!!!!!!!!

A large round object also just hanging out in space spins around. And nobody ever falls off.

Creatures that can live under water.

Creatures that can fly.

DNA

No MasterDesigner there, it just happened, are you kidding me? Only a total idiot wouldn't see what's really going on there. A moron.

Yes yes and yes,there was no Jesus, David vs Goliath, Samson etc etc, that's just us humans ing things up. But, there was a Designer and it should be obvious.

Allah....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! ing Mohammad was bipolar.

Do you any of you idiots ever think about how perfect the distances of everything is? Ya don't do ya?

[ChumpDumper]

A huge ball of fire can just hang out in space.

Sperm meets egg....life!!!!!!!!!!!

A large round object also just hanging out in space spins around. And nobody ever falls off.

Creatures that can live under water.

Creatures that can fly.

DNA

No MasterDesigner there, it just happened, are you kidding me? Only a total idiot wouldn't see what's really going on there. A moron.

Yes yes and yes,there was no Jesus, David vs Goliath, Samson etc etc, that's just us humans ing things up. But, there was a Designer and it should be obvious.

Allah....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! ing Mohammad was bipolar.

Do you any of you idiots ever think about how perfect the distances of everything is? Ya don't do ya?

Given the number of galaxies, stars and planets out there, some are bound to have conditions favorable to life as we know it.

Let's give Avante a little test.

How many galaxies are known to us?

[Avante]

So the phone rings...

me... o
caller...is this Avante?
me...yep!
caller...Avante this is blah blah with blah blah, how is you day going?
me...fine.
caller...good, well being with blah blah we have you as a...
me...whoa!
caller..and because we are...
me..whoa!
caller...we'll be here until..
me..HEY!!!!!!!! WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
caller...yes?
caller...you're wasting your time and need to learn to never talk to just the husband, ok? They will tell you..."let me talk to the wife". So call back later, ok?
caller...just take a few minutes to...
me...are you just not listening? I won't be doing anything without talking to the wife, just like you, ok? Now call back later, ok?
caller...Mr. Avante this won't take but...
me...click!!!!!

Who does that remind you of here?

[cantthinkofanything]

So the phone rings...

me..HEY!!!!!!!! WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
caller...yes?
caller...you're wasting your time and need to learn to never talk to just the husband, ok? They will tell you..."let me talk to the wife". So call back later, ok?
caller...just take a few minutes to...
me...are you just not listening? I won't be doing anything without talking to the wife, just like you, ok? Now call back later, ok?
caller...Mr. Avante this won't take but...
me...click!!!!!

I think I was following but then it got confusing at this part. Did the caller go insane?

[Avante]

I think I was following but then it got confusing at this part. Did the caller go insane?

Like all those who have a job of trying to sell/set up appointments on the phone they have a particlar spell they have to get out. They don't want to be interrupted, if you do interrupt them it throws them off. They are going with the facts (stats have prove this) that a huge % of people have a hard time being rude, so they will just listen.

The first lesson of sales is..."don't waste your time on the husband". He won't do without her approval, so ya want to talk with both or the wife.

The dude refused to listen, so...click!!!!!!

[cantthinkofanything]

Like all those who have a job of trying to sell/set up appointments on the phone they have a particlar spell they have to get out. They don't want to be interrupted, if you do interrupt them it throws them off. They are going with the facts (stats have prove this) that a huge % of people have a hard time being rude, so they will just listen.

The first lesson of sales is..."don't waste your time on the husband". He won't do without her approval, so ya want to talk with both or the wife.

The dude refused to listen, so...click!!!!!!

My dad, back in the day, if he wasn't doing anything important and had a few minutes to kill, he'd act super interested and get them going but he'd play dumb and act like they were the ones that would be paying him money for a service.

Caller: would you be interested in trying so and so for $29.99?
Dad: wow, that's unbelievable. what does it do?
Caller: blah blah blah
the spend a few minutes talking about the product or service. Salesperson getting excited.
Dad: sure, that sounds great. and I get paid to try this out?
Caller: Uh...no...it's that...
Dad: (interrupting) will you send a check with the product?
A few minutes of this and they'd hang up on him.

[Blake]

Given the number of galaxies, stars and planets out there, some are bound to have conditions favorable to life as we know it.

Let's give Avante a little test.

How many galaxies are known to us?

I'd start with
Which is bigger, sun or moon

[mouse]

Adaptations/mutations occur by chance or random mistakes in genetic replication. Mistakes in replication happen quite often, but most of the time they have no effect. If the mutation is harmful, that mutation is very unlikely to be passed on to future generations. If it is beneficial, it is more likely to be passed down. If it is neither harmful nor helpful, the odds don't change.

When populations separate, the populations undergo changes unique to them.

Your circling the drain......

[Avante]

I always get a kick out of people.

We see most great sprinters, running backs, wide receivers, hurdlers, basketballers, long jumpers, defensive backs being black. It is so damn obvious they are simply our cheetah/greyhound, yet some wanna debate.argue it. Are you kidding me?

Only a few tiny % of humans who have walked this earth had no God, most knowing this just didn't happen by chance. How anyone could think it did....????

We did not evolve from fish. That is on a par with whites being on a par with blacks when it comes to speed, a totally stupid idea.

Look at the ones who believe in evolution on this board, yep a bunch of dummies with that....believe me believe me believe me.....hahaha!!!!!! Too stupid to figure out I know a lot of far FAR more intelligent people who don't buy evolution.

Now here will come one of these idiots trying to peddle the stupidity, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

Why?

[Infinite_limit]

Avante, why have blacks not evolved?