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    David Stern was masterful in building up the NBA.

    What is true for all of us is also with him.

    Our greatest strengths can be detrimental weaknesses under different cir stances.

    Stern's promotion of individualism in his stars was intragal in the leagues growth.

    Unfortunately, it brewed a generation of new talent raised in this culture. Thus the game changed.

    The beginning of its death began as Stern was passing off his stamp on the league to Adam Silver. I find no coincidence in this timing.

    With Silver taking control the last two champions have returned the game to a game rather than a circus act of freakish talent alone. They have great talent but the team won with support players being bread into the team needs and blossoming when most needed.

    I have not watched recent finals that the Spurs were no part of because I love the game of basketball. I didn't enjoy what I was watching. However, this year I watched and enjoyed the execution of team play and role players providing for team what was ended from them. Simply, Steve Kerr bread this environment from the beginning. His counterpart emphasized the big three.

    Thank you Mr. Silver.
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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    Silva, Silver. It's pretty much the same.

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    Good catch

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    I don't really see a difference, tbh..

    People still complain about refs, people are still accusing the league of rigging games, etc..

    The only difference is that Silver's reign began as the Lakers died and the analytics era became prominent, which has promoted team ball and less ISO ball..

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    We've got a job to do. Darth_Pelican's Avatar
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    The 2015 NBA Finals had the highest ratings since Michael Jordan was on the court. That bodes well for Silver whether he is responsible for it or not. The NBA is a business, and business is good. When business is good, people in leadership roles are praised.

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    Thanks, Silver, for bringing le CLASS-ketball back

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    Hmmmmm........ Only difference?

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    Believe. Mori Chu's Avatar
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    intragal?

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    Believe. Fabbs's Avatar
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    Same no integrity got as Stern.

    "I'm going to clean up flopping".
    Gives one fine in the entire playoffs.

    Sneaky stuff like end of game Spurs Clipps NBA reffing report not so mysteriously missing.
    He's just Stern Jr.

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    + Silver is the guy who lynched Sterling. We can't ever forget that.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Same no integrity got as Stern.

    "I'm going to clean up flopping".
    Gives one fine in the entire playoffs.

    Sneaky stuff like end of game Spurs Clipps NBA reffing report not so mysteriously missing.
    He's just Stern Jr.
    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.

    The door was wide open for your 1st repeat and you refused to go thru. Your regrets are your own.

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    Believe. Fabbs's Avatar
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    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
    Only pussies and assholes lube up and accept rigged officiating.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Only pussies and assholes lube up and accept rigged officiating.
    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiatingPERIOD

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    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiatingPERIOD
    Only pussies and assholes accept rigged reffing PERIOD.

    I can go all day with ya parrot.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Only pussies and assholes accept rigged reffing PERIOD.

    I can go all day with ya parrot.
    That's because the door was so wide open, your repeat just past the threshold and you froze on the stoop.

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    That's because the door was so wide open, your repeat just past the threshold and you froze on the stoop.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...217346&page=61
    HAHA!!!!! I told you guys. It's ours!!!!!

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    Believe. Fabbs's Avatar
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    That's because the door was so wide open, your repeat just past the threshold and you froze on the stoop.
    I think you're losing it.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    I think you're losing it.
    No. You let the ne'er do well Clippers keep you from your repeat.

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    The 2015 NBA Finals had the highest ratings since Michael Jordan was on the court. That bodes well for Silver whether he is responsible for it or not. The NBA is a business, and business is good. When business is good, people in leadership roles are praised.
    Great story line in 2015
    - James returns to Cleveland
    - Warriors & Curry 1st le shot


    What happens when it is James' 4th [0-3] NBA Finals appearance with Cleveland in 5 years?

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    Believe. Fabbs's Avatar
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    No. You let the ne'er do well Clippers keep you from your repeat.
    all day

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    So you're gonna take an old man's last onions, Fabbs? I'm sittin' here, no A/C, a in' swamp cooler eatin' plain label popsicles in a 115 degrees and you're gonna take my ?

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    The 2015 NBA Finals had the highest ratings since Michael Jordan was on the court.
    And that's quite sad actually. Still nothing compares to the NBA on NBC.

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    David Stern was masterful in building up the NBA.

    What is true for all of us is also with him.

    Our greatest strengths can be detrimental weaknesses under different cir stances.

    Stern's promotion of individualism in his stars was intragal in the leagues growth.

    Unfortunately, it brewed a generation of new talent raised in this culture. Thus the game changed.

    The beginning of its death began as Stern was passing off his stamp on the league to Adam Silver. I find no coincidence in this timing.

    With Silver taking control the last two champions have returned the game to a game rather than a circus act of freakish talent alone. They have great talent but the team won with support players being bread into the team needs and blossoming when most needed.

    I have not watched recent finals that the Spurs were no part of because I love the game of basketball. I didn't enjoy what I was watching. However, this year I watched and enjoyed the execution of team play and role players providing for team what was ended from them. Simply, Steve Kerr bread this environment from the beginning. His counterpart emphasized the big three.

    Thank you Mr. Silver.
    That's one way to spin it.

    The truth is closer to this:

    Steph Curry is the face of the franchise, but he was shut down by a nobody that the NBA cannot afford to promote due to him not being capable of living up to it. The Warriors had an amazing season, however much respect they get for it, it should be tempered with the understanding that the league was in chaos during this time. There were stronger forces that were crippled during this run. The Thunder were the heir apparent team, but they fell to injury, as did the Blazers, Mavs, Spurs and even the Rockets for most of the season (and Clippers when Blake was out). Then you have the East where the Cavs lost Love in the 1st round, then Kyrie. Sure you win with what you have, and kudos to the Warriors for doing whatever they needed to do to remain healthy, a lot of that is on Kerr for his minute management of players, however let's not pretend that the Warriors rose from the ashes and smote the horde of dragons in the league. They were the last team standing. If you recall the MMA beginnings on television, they used to have guys fight in a tournament style compe ion for Ultimate Fighter championships. There was a cop from Detroit or somewhere who basically won by default because the guy he was supposed to fight was injured in the previous fight, so he comes out and just tackles the guy and they stop the fight. He had no chance otherwise. Injuries matter.

    I expect the individual performers to return to being game changers next season. This team thing is ok, but it doesn't sell jerseys and shoes. You'll have Melo, Rose (maybe), Lillard, Irving, Lebron, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Curry and Davis (and others) putting up big numbers. The best team in each conference will be the team with the best stars, not like this year. It's nothing to do with Stern, it was an anomaly.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    Yes, something that occurs within the gral, unlike an intergal.

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    Veteran Beaverfuzz's Avatar
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    That's one way to spin it.

    The truth is closer to this:

    Steph Curry is the face of the franchise, but he was shut down by a nobody that the NBA cannot afford to promote due to him not being capable of living up to it. The Warriors had an amazing season, however much respect they get for it, it should be tempered with the understanding that the league was in chaos during this time. There were stronger forces that were crippled during this run. The Thunder were the heir apparent team, but they fell to injury, as did the Blazers, Mavs, Spurs and even the Rockets for most of the season (and Clippers when Blake was out). Then you have the East where the Cavs lost Love in the 1st round, then Kyrie. Sure you win with what you have, and kudos to the Warriors for doing whatever they needed to do to remain healthy, a lot of that is on Kerr for his minute management of players, however let's not pretend that the Warriors rose from the ashes and smote the horde of dragons in the league. They were the last team standing. If you recall the MMA beginnings on television, they used to have guys fight in a tournament style compe ion for Ultimate Fighter championships. There was a cop from Detroit or somewhere who basically won by default because the guy he was supposed to fight was injured in the previous fight, so he comes out and just tackles the guy and they stop the fight. He had no chance otherwise. Injuries matter.

    I expect the individual performers to return to being game changers next season. This team thing is ok, but it doesn't sell jerseys and shoes. You'll have Melo, Rose (maybe), Lillard, Irving, Lebron, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Curry and Davis (and others) putting up big numbers. The best team in each conference will be the team with the best stars, not like this year. It's nothing to do with Stern, it was an anomaly.
    That is true, the two biggest obstacles for the Warriors met in the first round, and both of them choked away a home game 6. Once that happened, it was quite obvious who was winning it all.

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