OT: Top 20 teams of all time

[Malik Hairston]

Then why did the Spurs get bounced in the first round? Their drop off was so sharp they went from "dominating" tough compe ion to getting smacked by weaker compe ion in one summer?

Most of the players on the team fell off a cliff during the regular season, it didn't really have much to do with the Clippers, it was the case all season..other than Leonard and Green and maybe Duncan, literally every player on the saw a significant decline from the previous year during the regular season..

There isn't really a precedent for the Spurs, they were coming off 3 straight runs into end of May/mid-June with 3/4 of their core being past their primes, they were going to run out of gas at some point..the only comparable team from mileage/status was probably the 1998 Bulls, and their Finals opponent(Utah) was virtually the same team as the Clippers' team that the Spurs lost to, this season, according to the metrics..

I just find it strange that you think they went from having one of the best playoff runs in league history to the 6th(!!) seed in just a matter of months, simply because the compe ion got tougher..

[hitmanyr2k]

Most of the players on the team fell off a cliff during the regular season, it didn't really have much to do with the Clippers, it was the case all season..other than Leonard and Green and maybe Duncan, literally every player on the saw a significant decline from the previous year during the regular season..

There isn't really a precedent for the Spurs, they were coming off 3 straight runs into end of May/mid-June with 3/4 of their core being past their primes, they were going to run out of gas at some point..the only comparable team from mileage/status was probably the 1998 Bulls, and their Finals opponent(Utah) was virtually the same team as the Clippers' team that the Spurs lost to, this season, according to the metrics..

I just find it strange that you think they went from having one of the best playoff runs in league history to the 6th(!!) seed in just a matter of months, simply because the compe ion got tougher..

The Spurs are hardly comparable to the Bulls lol. Most of the players on the Spurs averaged 30 minutes or less playing time for God knows how many seasons with Pop micro-managing minutes and your stars got to even take nights off on back to backs. The Bulls stars were not only playing close to 40 minutes a game they sure as weren't taking nights off for the of it. The Spurs got bounced because they relied heavily on the 3 point shot (more often than ever) and teams that rely on that shot are unreliable. You live by it and die by it. The Spurs got hot last year at the right time, not so much this year.

[baseline bum]

In the CONFERENCE finals. And to the eventual champions.

Your Spurs couldnt even make it to the second round. And lost to a team who lost to the champs.

Thus, they couldnt have been THAT good in 14, yes?

They lost 4-1 to a team.

[baseline bum]

^^ That's a really strange argument, tbh..what's your theory as to why they fell off during the regular season? It wasn't exclusive to the playoffs, they struggled all year, there's a reason they were a 6 seed after having one of the most dominant playoff runs of all-time in 2014..

I don't get his argument. Apparently the 83 Sixers were paper champs.

[baseline bum]

The level of compe ion was much higher this year. The Spurs are paper champs.

Right place, right time.

So the difference between a paper champ like the 2014 Spurs and a real top 20 champ like the 1985 Lakers is the Spurs lost in the playoffs to a 56 win team in 7 next year while the Lakers beat a 35 win team and a 44 win team before losing to a 51 win team in 5. So if the Spurs would have beaten the Hornets and then the Pelicans in a series before losing to the Clippers, they could be a real top 20 champ? And where do you rank the 1983 Sixers?

[baseline bum]

In the CONFERENCE finals. And to the eventual champions.

Your Spurs couldnt even make it to the second round. And lost to a team who lost to the champs.

Thus, they couldnt have been THAT good in 14, yes?

The Rockets won the 1986 championship? Are all people in Phoenix this ignorant about NBA history?

[Clipper Nation]

The level of compe ion was much higher this year. The Spurs are paper champs.

Right place, right time.

You threw a parade for second place

[baseline bum]

You threw a parade for second place

He thought the Rockets won the 86 le, so he probably thought they won in 93.

[baseline bum]

The 72 Lakers won 69 games, 33 in a row, and a le obviously, and they are ranked 12th?

Because West had to wait Russell's career out to actually win one?

[da_suns_fan]

The Rockets won the 1986 championship? Are all people in Phoenix this ignorant about NBA history?

My mistake. The Lakers didnt lose to the eventual champions...but they did do a of a lot better than the 2015 Spurs.

[da_suns_fan]

You threw a parade for second place

Butthurt forum.

Hows Harden's taste?

[Clipper Nation]

Butthurt forum.

Hows Harden's taste?

How's Duncan's taste? Your whole franchise is literally his personal

[baseline bum]

My mistake. The Lakers didnt lose to the eventual champions...but they did do a of a lot better than the 2015 Spurs.

By beating the 1986 equivalent to the Hornets and then the 1986 equivalent to the Pelicans and then getting destroyed by the 1986 equivalent to the Blazers?

[da_suns_fan]

By beating the 1986 equivalent to the Hornets and then the 1986 equivalent to the Pelicans and then getting destroyed by the 1986 equivalent to the Blazers?

Stings, doesnt it?

[baseline bum]

Butthurt forum.

Hows Harden's taste?

Blowing that chance in 07 has gotten you even more butthurt than cubby, with your arbitrary standards for paper champs and all.

[da_suns_fan]

How's Duncan's taste? Your whole franchise is literally his personal

Have you resigned to calling Chris Paul "daddy"?

I think you owe it to him.

[baseline bum]

Stings, doesnt it?

Were you crying more in the 14 Finals or 07 Finals?

[Clipper Nation]

Have you resigned to calling Chris Paul "daddy"?

I think you owe it to him.

Why? He choked in the playoffs again like I said he would.

Has Goran Dragic played himself out of the league yet? Did the Suns win it all in 2008?

[baseline bum]

Why? He choked in the playoffs again like I said he would.

Has Goran Dragic played himself out of the league yet? Did the Suns win it all in 2008?

This guy doesn't know about the NBA. Thought the Spurs were the only top 20 championship team to lose in the first the next year. Thought the Rockets won the le in 86. Thought Jared Dudley was better than Carmelo Anthony. The comically bad basketball takes never stop with him.

[m>s]

Sun fan does have a point, the 2014 Spurs caught lightning in a bottle because a truly dominant team wouldn't follow it up with a first round exit.

[da_suns_fan]

Sun fan does have a point, the 2014 Spurs caught lightning in a bottle because a truly dominant team wouldn't follow it up with a first round exit.

Exactly

[da_suns_fan]

Why? He choked in the playoffs again like I said he would.

Has Goran Dragic played himself out of the league yet? Did the Suns win it all in 2008?

I think I might change my sig to Paul's legendary shot just to troll your ass

[baseline bum]

I think I might change my sig to Paul's legendary shot just to troll your ass

Garbage Jared Dudley video is already a good enough troll tbh.

[barbacoataco]

The 01 Lakers lost ONE game in the playoffs. This included a curb-stomping of the 01 Spurs who had the best record in the league.

Yeah I would put that team much higher. Kind of a pointless argument because are you talking about the best on paper, as a collection of talent, or is it the team that was playing the highest level of basketball as a team. And after that is it regular season and playoffs, or just playoffs? Another problem is the rules have changed and some teams would be more or less successful in different eras based on the way they officiate. That Rodman era Pistons would struggle under today's no touch rules, while the 15 Warriors would be hampered by a old school defense that could get physical with them.

[Clipper Nation]

I think I might change my sig to Paul's legendary shot just to troll your ass

Yeah, his "legendary" first round of the playoffs shot. How'd he do in the second round again? Oh, that's right, he blew a 3-1 lead and a 19-point lead at home and was petrified to shoot the ball from the 4th quarter for Game 6 until garbage time of Game 7. Might I add that he got punked by ancient fossils like Jason Terry and Pablo Prigioni. He's still never been past the second round of the playoffs.

Leave it to a Suns fan to idolize a loser, though. If Choke Paul had hit that same first-round shot against the Spurs in a Suns uniform, they literally would have thrown a parade downtown