9 Killed in Black Church Shooting in South Carolina

[TheSanityAnnex]

What the :



So he got it because of ty state law

WTF did you even read your own post? His Dad knew of his charge and broke the law and should be charged as an accessory to murder.

[Blizzardwizard]

In the words of fascist dictators themselves:

Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."

Stalin: "If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves."

Mao: "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns."

Mussolini: "I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind."

Castro: "Guns? For what?"


Russia's murder rate until recently was four times higher than the US despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the world. They finally responded by allowing citizens to own firearms for self-defense because gun control clearly didn't work.

Bonus stats:

The nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).

Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland’s murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/...useronline.pdf

Words can be interpretated many different ways. I see you could find no respectable source backing up your claim that myself and Obama are fascists.

Russia play by their own rules, and of course mass revolutionary violence for years on end will distort the 'gun deaths per year on average stats'. No gun laws can change that in such short time.

You compare murder rates within other countries in Europe, but do not answer my question. Do any of those countries have higher gun death rates than the U.S.?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Tsa thinks you're a stupid

Yup.

[Blizzardwizard]

You are not a law abiding citizen if you carry around a felony charge you stupid .

You seem rattled, your responses growing ever shorter. It seems I've kicked up a fuss in the chicken coop.

This man was free, was not serving any prison sentence, house arrest or parole. He was law abiding AT THE TIME he committed the crime.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Please, englighten me, find me a source that isn't from a deranged rightwing blog, something with credit, that suggests that strengthening gun laws is fascist.

In which countries within Europe that possess strict gun laws are gun deaths higher than the U.S.?

You can't possibly compare small bags of Heroin that you get off the street cheap to assault rifles or shotguns. So you think criminals would just hand around weapons for tiny prices?

Oh goodness, the ol' "if you want to ban guns you should ban all cars and knives too!" chestnut. You're running low on attacks aren't you?

Have you ever once looked at Europes overall violent crime rate and wondered why it was so high and when it ed?

[TheSanityAnnex]

You seem rattled, your responses growing ever shorter. It seems I've kicked up a fuss in the chicken coop.

This man was free, was not serving any prison sentence, house arrest or parole. He was law abiding AT THE TIME he committed the crime.

Rattled? Lol. At least the anti-gun American posters here put up a good debate. You are just awful post after post. A felon carrying a gun is not law abiding at any time you stupid .

[Blizzardwizard]

Rattled? Lol. At least the anti-gun American posters here put up a good debate. You are just awful post after post. A felon carrying a gun is not law abiding at any time you stupid .

Well that's a rather subjective evaluation isn't it? I seem to have put up a good enough debate to force response after response, insult after insult from you. Surely you wouldn't have thrown your vitriol in my direction if you weren't shaken, which you clearly are.

Now, I'll leave you to clean up from here, I need at least some sleep. Have fun, sport.

[Clipper Nation]

Words can be interpretated many different ways.

There's no real room for interpretation there. All those dictators ins uted gun control, making it easy for them to enslave their people and exterminate dissidents.

Meanwhile...

Washington: "A free people ought to be armed."

Jefferson: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

Adams: "Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense."

Mason: "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."

The Dalai Lama: "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."

Gandhi: "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."

MLK: "The right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law."

I see you could no respectable source backing up your claim that myself and Obama are fascists.

Never said either one of you were fascists, just that gun control is a fascist idea. Try to keep up.

You compare murder rates within other countries in Europe, but do not answer my question. Do any of those countries have higher gun death rates than the U.S.?

Russia did. You handwaved that away with an excuse, of course, but it's a certified fact that they had some of the world's harshest gun laws and higher murder rates than the US.

Another statistic: according to the Small Arms Survey, the US has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world. However, it's only 28th in the world in gun murders.

Honduras, El Salvador, and Jamaica - the latter two being especially known for their harsh gun control laws - have the highest firearm murder rates by far.

Meanwhile, Puerto Rico, Sierra Leone, and St. Kitts and Nevis - all of whom also have strict gun laws (although Sierra Leone has started toning theirs down in recent years) - are the top three in firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...hip-world-list

Sorry, but history and statistics have shown that the reals always contradict your feels when it comes to gun ownership.

[Blake]

WTF did you even read your own post? His Dad knew of his charge and broke the law and should be charged as an accessory to murder.

yeah a private sale law would have helped here. Definitely wouldn't have hurt.

what law will they use to charge the dad with? I don't know I'm asking.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well that's a rather subjective evaluation isn't it? I seem to have put up a good enough debate to force response after response, insult after insult from you. Surely you wouldn't have thrown your vitriol in my direction if you weren't shaken, which you clearly are.

Now, I'll leave you to clean up from here, I need at least some sleep. Have fun, sport.

You put up no debate at all and have been wrong on all counts. "Good enough debate"

do I need to bullet point all your ups?

[Clipper Nation]

Well that's a rather subjective evaluation isn't it?

No it isn't. If you're a felon, you don't abide by the law, by definition. I know that SJWs like you love to redefine the meanings of words to suit your agenda, but this is pretty clear-cut.

[TheSanityAnnex]

yeah a private sale law would have helped here. Definitely wouldn't have hurt.

what law will they use to charge the dad with? I don't know I'm asking.

Don't know the laws there but from the looks of it he knowingly gave a felon a gun so he should be charged and I hope he is.

[Blizzardwizard]

You clearly implied I was fascist by wanting to implement strong gun laws. You're backtracking because you know your claim was outlandish and farfetched.

You keep referring to Russia constantly, unsurprisingly, as it's an anomaly that supports your claim. I ask again, which countries in Europe that have strict gun laws have higher gun death rates than the U.S.?

[Blizzardwizard]

do I need to bullet point all your ups?

You can if you like, I'm sure that'll keep you entertained for a good few minutes, in your mind at least.

[Clipper Nation]

You clearly implied I was fascist by wanting to implement strong gun laws. You're backtracking because you know your claim was outlandish and farfetched.

You keep referring to Russia constantly, unsurprisingly, as it's an anomaly that supports your claim. I ask again, which countries in Europe that have strict gun laws have higher death rates than the U.S.?

I thought you were going to bed? You must be rattled, since you're still responding with more drivel.

I never implied about you. I referred to gun control as an "uncons utional, fascist agenda," implying that the idea is fascist.

I brought up another study, and like clockwork, you ignored it.

You probably should go to bed, as you're getting your ass kicked left and right and have brought up zero substantive points.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I ask again, which countries in Europe that have strict gun laws have higher death rates than the U.S.?

You may want to reword your question because the answer to this is quite a few. Another up lol.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You can if you like, I'm sure that'll keep you entertained for a good few minutes, in your mind at least.

I'll help you along. First explain to me how a felon carrying a firearm was not breaking any laws at the time.

[Blizzardwizard]

Yep, if only we all could be "decent" enough to use the corpses of innocent people to push an uncons utional fascist agenda.

Implication.

[Clipper Nation]

Implication.

Where?

[Blizzardwizard]

I thought you were going to bed? You must be rattled, since you're still responding with more drivel.

I never implied about you. I referred to gun control as an "uncons utional, fascist agenda," implying that the idea is fascist.

I brought up another study, and like clockwork, you ignored it.

You probably should go to bed, as you're getting your ass kicked left and right and have brought up zero substantive points.

You and your cute little teamwork. Don't worry, I'll stay here longer if it keeps you boys occupied.

More subjective crap.

Fourth time. Which European countries with strict gun laws currently have a higher gun death rate than the U.S.?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'll help you along. First explain to me how a felon carrying a firearm was not breaking any laws at the time.

[Blizzardwizard]

I'll help you along. First explain to me how a felon carrying a firearm was not breaking any laws at the time.

Are you going to keep proving my point? Thanks for your support. How was your felon freely allowed to acquire a gun, own one or more for a substantial period of time without being checked or vetted? A free man with previous charges owning a weapon? Surely this should not happen, or is this ok with you?

[ElNono]

Did the parents of the kid said anything, tbh? For some reason I get the sense his hatred isn't some recent development...

[Clipper Nation]

Statistical proof that Europe is more violent than the US:

http://cogitansiuvenis.blogspot.com/...lent-than.html

[Clipper Nation]

Here is the list of European countries whose most recent murder rates exceeded the U.S.'s.
• Greenland (19.2)
• Russia (10.2)
• Moldova (7.5)
• Lithuania (6.6)
• Ukraine (5.2)
• Estonia (5.2)
• Belarus (4.9)

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/...#ixzz3dT4aa8fs